MetalDog wrote:They could make a movie out of that scenario...oh wait a moment...they did
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They even had enough time to make a modern remake 
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Fab4 5,298 posts
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Registered 7 years ago They even had enough time to make a modern remake -
glaeken 10,366 posts
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Registered 8 years agobzzct wrote:
I meant that it won't make any difference to how most would actually act in the situation because I don't think anyone really thinks about the law in that situation. People will do what they are going to do based on their inclinations.glaeken wrote:
Erm, it'll mean you're not arrested/imprisoned for doing that. How is that not different?!?
I don't see how it will change anything. I don't think it would have ever entered my head not defend myself or my home because it might get me in trouble with the law. You would do what you need to and are able to do.
Afterwards yes it might make a difference and I think this is a change for the good I just don't think burglars are going to suddenly stop due to the chance of physical violence as I don't believe that chance has changed.
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glaeken 10,366 posts
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Registered 8 years agosmoothpete wrote:
Indeed and not all lives are equal. I am not too worried about harm befalling the types who commit burglary. Most of these people contribute nothing to our society.MetalDog wrote:
meh, there are too many people around anyway
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Jeepers 12,578 posts
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Registered 7 years agoglaeken wrote:
Not true. They give the shuddering middle-classes something to fret about.smoothpete wrote:
Indeed and not all lives are equal. I am not too worried about harm befalling the types who commit burglary. Most of these people contribute nothing to our society.MetalDog wrote:
meh, there are too many people around anyway
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Tom_Servo 13,223 posts
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Registered 3 years agoWell, as much as Ken Clarke says things will be much clearer, after reading the BBC article I'm still a bit fuzzy. He doesn't specifically say killing a burglar will be okay as far as I can see, so some people might be jumping the gun a bit here.
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smoothpete 29,144 posts
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Registered 9 years agoLook on the bright side MD, at least you can now have a sword-fight legally, which is part of the way towards your preferred death (sword-fight on roof I moving train IIRC?) -
mrpon 24,053 posts
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Registered 6 years agoSo I can't tie up a burglar and pummel his bollocks Casino Royale style?
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MetalDog 23,448 posts
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Registered 11 years agosmoothpete wrote:
True!
Look on the bright side MD, at least you can now have a sword-fight legally, which is part of the way towards your preferred death (sword-fight on roof I moving train IIRC?)
I don't currently have a sword, alas. I do have a longbow, but I'd be murdered by the time I got it strung, 45lb pull is a bit much for me after not shooting for so long =)-- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.
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smoothpete 29,144 posts
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Registered 9 years agoMetalDog wrote:
May I suggest investing in one of thesesmoothpete wrote:
True!
Look on the bright side MD, at least you can now have a sword-fight legally, which is part of the way towards your preferred death (sword-fight on roof I moving train IIRC?)
I don't currently have a sword, alas. I do have a longbow, but I'd be murdered by the time I got it strung, 45lb pull is a bit much for me after not shooting for so long =) -
glaeken 10,366 posts
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Registered 8 years agoDam might have to upgrade my sword. -
bzzct 1,724 posts
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Registered 10 years agoglaeken wrote:
I think you've misunderstood what the purpose of the change is.bzzct wrote:
I meant that it won't make any difference to how most would actually act in the situation because I don't think anyone really thinks about the law in that situation. People will do what they are going to do based on their inclinations.glaeken wrote:
Erm, it'll mean you're not arrested/imprisoned for doing that. How is that not different?!?
I don't see how it will change anything. I don't think it would have ever entered my head not defend myself or my home because it might get me in trouble with the law. You would do what you need to and are able to do.
Afterwards yes it might make a difference and I think this is a change for the good I just don't think burglars are going to suddenly stop due to the chance of physical violence as I don't believe that chance has changed. -
smoothpete 29,144 posts
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Registered 9 years agoBilly_sastard wrote:
Well the little fuckers shouldn't have broken into his house, clearlysmoothpete wrote:
Them pigs sure must have pissed him off. Poor pigs.MetalDog wrote:
May I suggest investing in one of thesesmoothpete wrote:
True!
Look on the bright side MD, at least you can now have a sword-fight legally, which is part of the way towards your preferred death (sword-fight on roof I moving train IIRC?)
I don't currently have a sword, alas. I do have a longbow, but I'd be murdered by the time I got it strung, 45lb pull is a bit much for me after not shooting for so long =)
(all the meat from those videos is donated to places that feed homeless folks, fyi)
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rudedudejude 1,880 posts
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Registered 7 years agoI think I can forsee a new eras of homeowners defending their homes with medieval weapony, broadswords and longbows ahaha.
Brilliant. I can imagine some guy at the top of the stairs with his sword and longbow "Begone from my castle or I shalt run you through!'
A longsword or pike might work even better, you could probably stab them from the other end of the hallway.
Or come flying down the landing swinging a ball and chain around your head.
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Registered 6 years agoSpeaking as a homeowner, parent and spouse, I intend to reinforce my upstairs landing, then have an M1 Abrams parked outside the bedroom door with the main gun and co-ax pointing down the stairs. If any burglars come in, I'll just roll the tank down the stairs and squash them with it.
I got the idea from some guy's fish tank.Think I'll just switch everything off.
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FWB 39,097 posts
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Oh-Bollox 5,046 posts
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Registered 6 years agoCan you imagine some poor fucker ascending the staircase merely to burgle the upper floors of one's domicile, only to be confronted with Vanessa rolling down the stairs towards him?
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mowgli 31,850 posts
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Registered 7 years agoMetalDog wrote:
Yeah, defending your 'property' is not about stuff > lives.
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stuff < livesPissy pants.
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FWB 39,097 posts
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mowgli 31,850 posts
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Registered 7 years agoI don't think that is the issue. Someone breaks into the house where your wife and children are sleeping. You are not thinking, I need to defend my xbox. (obviously this is assuming worst case scenario, and even then I don't think ignoring it and hoping they go away does much for the family's feeling of safety which is the most important thing there is imo)Pissy pants.
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FWB 39,097 posts
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Gearskin 1,987 posts
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Registered 7 years agoI should point out that on Friday April 13, 2007, I was caught trying to break into a house.
In my defence I thought it was my house and I was hammered beyond words. My keys wouldn't work on the door so I tried putting my fists through the door instead. I'm not proud. Lowest point of my life, I'd say. This enraged assault on the door lasted long enough for the police to arrive.
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Registered 8 years agoFWB wrote:
+1
I'd use my family as a human shield if it saved my guitar.
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