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LeoliansBro 35,097 posts
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Registered 7 years agoCan someone point me in the direction of an 'Upcoming WiiU release schedule' list that isn't filled with speculation? -
It should come as no surprise if 3rd party ports of 360/PS3 games aren't as good on WiiU. Regardless of how powerful it may or may not be its a new console for the devs to learn.
Plus confidence isn't high on the WiiU so expect ports to be unoptimised for the rest of the current gen. There's no point for them to spend the money at the moment.Follow me on Twitter: @MrTom
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LeoliansBro 35,097 posts
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Registered 7 years agoMrTomFTW wrote:
So the WiiU falls between two stools? It'll be the console to avoid while this gen plays out due to unoptimised multiplatform games, and then the console to avoid in the next gen because the competitors are capable of so much more?
Plus confidence isn't high on the WiiU so expect ports to be unoptimised for the rest of the current gen. There's no point for them to spend the money at the moment.
Bit stark.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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THFourteen 29,052 posts
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Registered 8 years agothis thread is going to provide awesome lols over the next few motnhs -
vyseofhr 655 posts
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Registered 3 years agoWhat I want to know is where are all the reviews of games like AC3, Sonic Racing, Blops etc?NNID: vyseofhr
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neilka 12,020 posts
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Registered 8 years agoTHFourteen wrote:
Looking forward to the Digital Foundry faceoffs
this thread is going to provide awesome lols over the next few motnhs
/builds deckchair concessionif you have nothing intresting to say then you might as well just throw your bags on the truck and drive away
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JinTypeNoir 4,210 posts
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Registered 8 years agorichardiox wrote:
I like you state as if it were a fact and not something that is pretty much just reliant on a matter of taste. Yes, it is almost gospel among a certain set of gamers the Wii is viewed as a ghost town to the PS360's wild west, but that this prevalent view is so dominant on the likes of message boards like this doesn't make it any more true.
The strongest hardware doesn't always sell the most? Does that somehow mean that the Wii's software catalogue is better than the 360s?
But as shown by the Wii itself, being comparatively under specced certainly didn't help in terms of providing an amazing breadth of software.
Yes, it did. There were tons of games that only appeared on the Wii precisely because it was easier to develop for. You think Kororinpa or Sin & Punishment 2 or Fragile would appear on the PS360? Those development teams did not and probably still don't have the resources to be able to do that.
Games like Kororinpa were relegated to a download ghetto by Microsoft and Sony, the idea that you could devote some serious resources to a package title like that and expect the same amount of compensation because the resulting product wasn't of any less quality in design than than a production that ran tens of millions of dollars may have died with the Wii.
Sin & Punishment 2 is only allowed because the last-gen graphics allowed for some measure of return on Nintendo's investment in picking Treasure's niche gems. The only way that would make it to market on PS360 would be if it were multiplayer heavy or of the artistic wankery.
Then you have Fragile, which is by a huge publisher, but a small game with less availability of the company's resources. Namco would never be crazy tp give a game like that enough of the development time it needed with a full team working on HD assets. Not in a million years.
And the Wii had gobs of this stuff, of course not all of it good, and of course more than a few titles of debatable quality. I know it gets overlooked because "LOL Wii," but that doesn't change the reality of the situation -- it just points to the tunnel vision of confirmation bias these people enjoy basking in.
Being the same level of power and fostering the same development path as the PS360 would have killed the Opoonas and Zack & Wikis and Hospitals and Tatsunoko vs. Capcoms dead before they even came to market. The gap between between downloadable titles and the major HD releases into a middle road of ambition that has been sustainable up to this point was entirely due to the Wii's hardware weakness giving it that advantage.
In fact the matter was so serious that out of the three major territories, one completely abandoned consoles as the main market and went to handhelds precisely because they offered less power and a richer development environment because of that.
Whether this generation bucks the not-so-weird-when-you-think-about-it remains to be seen, but quite apart from where the games I want to play appear, my heart will support the console maker whose platform gives the widest variety of developers the opportunity to shine, for whatever reason. -
nickthegun 44,469 posts
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Registered 7 years agoLeoliansBro wrote:
Yeah and ones got sweetcorn in it.
So the WiiU falls between two stools?
SWISH!---------------------------------------------------------
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RyanDS 7,636 posts
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Registered 5 years agoJinTypeNoir wrote:
Sony and MS with the thriving PSN and indie stores?
Whether this generation bucks the not-so-weird-when-you-think-about-it remains to be seen, but quite apart from where the games I want to play appear, my heart will support the console maker whose platform gives the widest variety of developers the opportunity to shine, for whatever reason. -
Gambit1977 7,839 posts
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Registered 5 years agonickthegun wrote:
That's more than the Wii U has in it!LeoliansBro wrote:
Yeah and ones got sweetcorn in it.
So the WiiU falls between two stools?
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Moot_Point 1,071 posts
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Registered 8 months agonickthegun wrote:
And the other has peanuts in?LeoliansBro wrote:
Yeah and ones got sweetcorn in it.
So the WiiU falls between two stools?
SWISH!mowgli wrote: I fucking love willies.
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Gambit1977 7,839 posts
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Registered 5 years agoMoot_Point wrote:
If you're talking about the 360 I think you spelled Penis wrong!nickthegun wrote:
And the other has peanuts in?LeoliansBro wrote:
Yeah and ones got sweetcorn in it.
So the WiiU falls between two stools?
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joelstinton 4,016 posts
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Registered 7 years agoRaiko101 wrote:
that is awesome. Thanks for the link. Anyone saying that the wii u online is under par needs a look at that. Sure a couple of things need sorting out, but so does every think.
Some guy playing around in the Wara Wara Plaza. This is what I like most about Nintendo's attempt at an online community. I really hope the 3DS gets something similar too, in the future.PSN - Cloudsheaven
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JinTypeNoir 4,210 posts
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Registered 8 years agoRaiko101 wrote:
That looks pretty cool. I'm always going around on the 'net checking out people's opinions, but a problem with the net is that it breeds its own culture and its hard to find relatively normal people opinions on niche games, so if this helps with that, that's great. I'm always weary of these types of features that replicate social aspects of phones or computers though; I always feels like my cell phone can do so much better, why bother?
Some guy playing around in the Wara Wara Plaza. This is what I like most about Nintendo's attempt at an online community. I really hope the 3DS gets something similar too, in the future.
If and when I get a Wii U, I'll have to check this out and see if its worth digging into or if its appeal dies as the novelty wears off. The 3DS chat feature and messaging system hasn't yet, surprisingly. (I also wonder if there are some annoyances that crop up when you use it more too...) -
ResidentKnievel 5,391 posts
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Registered 6 years agoLeoliansBro wrote:
Pikmin 3
Can someone point me in the direction of an 'Upcoming WiiU release schedule' list that isn't filled with speculation?
Wonderful 101
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JinTypeNoir 4,210 posts
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Registered 8 years agoRyanDS wrote:
Wow. It looks like the rumors about you were true.JinTypeNoir wrote:
Sony and MS with the thriving PSN and indie stores?
Whether this generation bucks the not-so-weird-when-you-think-about-it remains to be seen, but quite apart from where the games I want to play appear, my heart will support the console maker whose platform gives the widest variety of developers the opportunity to shine, for whatever reason. -
Baleoce 1,065 posts
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Registered 2 years agoI hope it embraces its own direction.Steam: Baleoce
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Fake_Blood 2,975 posts
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Registered 4 years agoWell cancelled my pre-order, was interested in nsmb2 and zombieU, the rest I can get on my other consoles/pc. Will probably get one eventually but right now? Meh. -
THFourteen 29,052 posts
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Registered 8 years agoJinTypeNoir wrote: You think Kororinpa or Sin & Punishment 2 or Fragile would appear on the PS360?
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LeoliansBro 35,097 posts
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Registered 7 years agoJTN talking about games being developed for the Wii because it offered better 'compensation'. Just think about that for a second, and then explain to me how it is an argument in favour of the Wii.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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joelstinton 4,016 posts
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Registered 7 years agoResidentKnievel wrote:
Monster hunterLeoliansBro wrote:
Pikmin 3
Can someone point me in the direction of an 'Upcoming WiiU release schedule' list that isn't filled with speculation?
Wonderful 101
errr...
lego city undecover
Rayman legends
Aliens CM
Injustice gods amongst men
Game and Wario
have all been announced as well with dates in mind (launch)
Dragon quest x, bayonetta, project cars, NFS MW, ghost recon, spiderman, sniper ghost warrior, have been announced without dates.
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Gambit1977 7,839 posts
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Registered 5 years agoWill there ever be a Nintendo thread that isn't full of fanboys? -
LeoliansBro 35,097 posts
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Registered 7 years agoThanks. Not a thing on that list that interests me.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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joelstinton 4,016 posts
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Registered 7 years agobrilliant.PSN - Cloudsheaven
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RyanDS 7,636 posts
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Registered 5 years agoJinTypeNoir wrote:
The rumours that I am incredibly handsome and brilliant? seriously though psn and live have been fantastic for small devs and I really don't see nintendo offering anything up to that level.RyanDS wrote:
Wow. It looks like the rumors about you were true.JinTypeNoir wrote:
Sony and MS with the thriving PSN and indie stores?
Whether this generation bucks the not-so-weird-when-you-think-about-it remains to be seen, but quite apart from where the games I want to play appear, my heart will support the console maker whose platform gives the widest variety of developers the opportunity to shine, for whatever reason. -
JinTypeNoir 4,210 posts
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Registered 8 years agoEh. It'll be at least a year before we can judge whether the 3rd party situation will change or not for the WiiU. Before that, between the launch and 1st year deficit of software that all new platforms experience and the stigma of the Wii handicapping 3rd party expectations from the getgo, and just waiting to see how the sales environment shakes up, even if a miracle happens and somehow the WiiU ends up a software juggernaut for every type of game imaginable, it probably won't be in 2013 that it happens anyway. -
Moot_Point 1,071 posts
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Registered 8 months agoGambit1977 wrote:
Hey! It was a genuine question.Moot_Point wrote:
If you're talking about the 360 I think you spelled Penis wrong!nickthegun wrote:
And the other has peanuts in?LeoliansBro wrote:
Yeah and ones got sweetcorn in it.
So the WiiU falls between two stools?
SWISH!mowgli wrote: I fucking love willies.
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LeoliansBro 35,097 posts
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Registered 7 years ago'Download ghetto' may be the most embarrassing phrase JTN's ever come up with on here, and it's up against some pretty fucking stiff competition (reams of it).
Edited by LeoliansBro at 10:30:12 20-11-2012LB, you really are a massive geek.
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joelstinton 4,016 posts
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Registered 7 years agopsn and live embrace of the indie games have been probably the best thing of this gen for me. Really looking forward to seeing what they have up there sleeves. Signs - ninty allowing them to set own price points, having no limit on size is a good sign. A pullbox for the wii u please
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Moot_Point wrote:
So was mineGambit1977 wrote:
Hey! It was a genuine question.Moot_Point wrote:
If you're talking about the 360 I think you spelled Penis wrong!nickthegun wrote:
And the other has peanuts in?LeoliansBro wrote:
Yeah and ones got sweetcorn in it.
So the WiiU falls between two stools?
SWISH!
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