Cappy wrote:There's a certain skill to spouting rubbish but making it sound like fact. Many appear to have that skill round here.
You can't look at two different objects at once, therefore one screen will always be superfluous.
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Registered 7 years agoArmoured_Bear wrote:
You're referring to lingering in toilets and laying around in bed like a shut-in playing games and watching TV I hope. That is pretty pathetic.
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jellyhead 24,346 posts
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Registered 10 years agoI can look at two things at once. I can see my hands and my mouse, i can see my cup AND spoon. It's quite easy to see more than one object at a time, cappy. Desk, keyboard, screen, cup, spoon, mouse and many more.
Quite astounding really. I must be a mutant. Worship me!This signature intentionally left blank.
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ronuds 20,541 posts
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Registered 7 years agoKhanivor wrote:
This is what annoys me most - the assertion that we can't possibly have any idea what the WiiU is about unless you've used it.
Ever been robbed? If not, please don't post negative opinions about it. It doesn't matter how much you might have read, heard or seen on the topic you cannot have an opinion unless you have direct personal experience.
It's a console with a screen on the controller - hardly the revolution that can't possibly be understood without hands-on time as some make it out to be. Some of us have been gaming long enough to get a good idea whether we've used it or not (I have used it, btw), since it's a console with games that aren't much different from what we've been playing for over 3 decades.
I'm not saying anything bad about the WiiU, only the assertions that have gone with it..gif)
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Cappy 11,083 posts
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Registered 7 years agoscoobysi wrote:
Okay.Cappy wrote:
There's a certain skill to spouting rubbish but making it sound like fact. Many appear to have that skill round here.
You can't look at two different objects at once, therefore one screen will always be superfluous.
Take two books. Hold one open in front of you, place the other on your lap. Now read both books at once without alternating between gazing at one then the other. Being aware of something in the periphery of your vision and actually looking at something are two different things.
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Registered 1 year agoLeoliansBro wrote:
Why do you apologise this time?
I'd love somewhere like Amazon released a 'budget WiiU' bundle for those a bit strapped for cash that contained:
- a 360
- a telly
- better versions of multiplatform games
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LeoliansBro 35,125 posts
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Registered 7 years agoBecause the other times I wasn't trolling. Criticism of Nintendo can sometimes be legitimate, you know.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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Armoured_Bear 4,102 posts
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Registered 1 year agoLeoliansBro wrote:
You're funny.
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CharlieStCloud 2,321 posts
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Registered 3 years ago... changing the subject!
Any inklings when Pikmin 3 shall be available here in Great Britain?
I really loved the first one, the sequel not-as-much, and recent news of the (long overdue) threequel being comparable to the original in terms of difficulty has got me a little bit excited.
I had a good go on Nintendo Land on my friends Wii U (or their sons, who was thankfully in bed!) on Monday evening and I do like some 'mini-games' more than others and they make me hope that the variety of ways to use the GamePad is implemented in the next Metroid and Zelda.
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ResidentKnievel 5,393 posts
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Registered 6 years agoI hope all these lack of announcements is an indication that Nintendo are ditching home consoles and going 3rd-party, soon, incredibly unlikely but it would be awesome.
I think it's likely they'll go 3rd party before 2016
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Binny 175 posts
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Registered 5 years agoResidentKnievel wrote:
Now that's been silly.
I hope all these lack of announcements is an indication that Nintendo are ditching home consoles and going 3rd-party, soon, incredibly unlikely but it would be awesome.
I think it's likely they'll have went 3rd party before 2016
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beastmaster 8,015 posts
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Registered 9 years agoNintendo going 3rd party is highly unlikely. People have been saying/wanting they're going to do so for years. It's just wishful thinking. Want to play a certain Mario game? You're going to have to buy Nintendo.
I've been keeping a beady eye on this thread for a while. I still have not bought one and I'm pleased I didn't. Just not enough on it to justify it and (now) Im not prepared to buy a WiiU and wait for the titles to come out.
It's either going to be Bayonetta 2 or when the machine has enough AAA titles I want to buy one.
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Did we cover this from CES? Controller, and the internal battery (the triple lasting one), sorted. Then again, the controller doesn't really add anything to the table for those who are fine with the layout of the official one, apart from price point. That internal battery sounds like a good deal though.
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Steifybobbins 294 posts
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Registered 5 years agoCappy wrote:
What? W..w..what?Jordyce wrote:
Since we're getting started on the name calling, how much more simply can I explain it you imbecile? You can't look at two different objects at once, therefore one screen will always be superfluous.
So you're judging a system entirely on flawed logic and refuse to actually play it?
I can't help but feel this guy's an idiot, and there's an overabundance of them when it comes to Nintendo on Eurogamer. I just don't know what's so specific about EG + Nintendo hate (even Kotaku's not this bad, and it's pretty awful).
Furthermore, constantly having to switch attention between screens breaks immersion. Obviously it impresses some, no doubt the same contingent who were impressed by holding up a Wii Remote to their ear so they can pretend it's a phone. Perhaps Fisher-Price products would better suit their needs.
As for the play in bed, whilst on the toilet etc. justification. That's mostly been dealt with before, I guess lurking in toilets feels natural to the sort of people who early adopt Nintendo consoles.
I'm particularly peeved by the absolutely outrageous assertion from some users that people shouldn't post opinions that they don't like or agree with. Who the Hell are you to think you can dictate what people should be able to post?
This is a discussion forum, not a fan club and that particular behaviour is a bannable offence on GAF for a very good reason, besides being highly unpleasant and causing arguments, it results in horrible threads with no real discussion or worth, they become repellent circle jerks.
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"You see it too? For me, it's always like this..."
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Raiko101 3,902 posts
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Registered 4 years agoUsing two screens doesn't break any kind of immersion for me. At least it didn't with ZombiU. Part of the experience was knowing you had to take yours eyes of the screen. Even if for just a second.3DS: 4210 4002 8289 (Dave)
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Registered 7 years agoGood, so you can throw more money at controllers for this thing.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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Psychotext 49,221 posts
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Registered 7 years agoTalking of which, I wonder when the standalone controllers will be out. I guess they're working on how they go about downgrading the game's graphics to be able to output to multiple pads.This post is sponsored by Apple and the iPhone 4S. Think different.
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DFawkes 19,305 posts
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Registered 8 years agoI was thinking you could probably do a good Star Trek Bridge Commander type game. One player as pilot on a Pro Controller and the main TV, with 2 players with Gamepads doing other stuff, like Engineering, Point Defence or targeting. The obvious advantage is something already in Star Trek - the LCARS design of all the panels.
That way, you can give a more simplified picture output to the 2 Gamepad's to enhance authenticity. I think realistically there'd have to be a lot of that kind of thinking to support 2 Gamepad's, like having a game with retro visuals or other finding reasons for having have minimalistic visuals.Kirby is the man! Even if he wasn't, he'd just ingest and become one.
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Registered 1 year agoNano Assault Neo is pretty good, I just bought it tonight.
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Registered 2 years agoAs far as I'm concerned, the Penny Arcade suggestion of a D&D game with the GamePad player acting as the Dungeon Master is just money waiting to be made.Steam: Baleoce
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Registered 4 years agoPsychotext wrote:
I bet they never arrive. What use are they? They will just complicate things
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Registered 8 years agoJazzy_Geoff wrote:
Can't see many people wanting to fork out $170 just for a second controller. Works out to about £100 for us lot. How many games are going to support two controllers, given the price? The whole 'one person uses the tabletpad, everyone else uses shitty normal controllers' thing seems like such a horrible gimmick. It reminds me of going to a friends house as a kid, and he gives you his Mad Catz spare. I'm sure its great for some games, but it feels like it has limited applications. Anyway yes, it does seem like support for a second controller is going to be more trouble than it's worth.Psychotext wrote:
I bet they never arrive. What use are they? They will just complicate things
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Registered 3 years agoDFawkes wrote:
I was thinking you could probably do a good Star Trek Bridge Commander type game. One player as pilot on a Pro Controller and the main TV, with 2 players with Gamepads doing other stuff, like Engineering, Point Defence or targeting. The obvious advantage is something already in Star Trek - the LCARS design of all the panels.
That way, you can give a more simplified picture output to the 2 Gamepad's to enhance authenticity. I think realistically there'd have to be a lot of that kind of thinking to support 2 Gamepad's, like having a game with retro visuals or other finding reasons for having have minimalistic visuals.
An excellent idea, i'd love to see Nintendo implement something like that - basically a more graphically powerful version of FTL with multiple players controlling different things.
Another example would be for a F1 game - the GamePad player would be the engineer, monitoring the race from an aerial view and keeping an eye on the cars vital stats and rivals positions, the Pro Controller player would be the driver and you could even have two Wii Remote players as pit stop engineers!"Look at banner Michael!"
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There are dozens of clever ideas for the gamepad and I'm a firm believer in asymmetric gaming. The thing is, they would benefit from being online and no developer is going to make an online asymmetric multiplayer game just because of the existence of the gamepad. They could just as easily be made on any console. So you'll end up with an expensive and distracting inventory screen time after time.
More Luigi's Haunted Mansion type games would be very welcome, but same-room multiplayer games by themselves don't justify the investment.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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