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  • bitch_tits_zero_nine 27 Nov 2012 13:50:55 6,654 posts
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    I dropped this three weeks ago with 70 hours on the clock and a character at about level 25. Came back to it the other day and was kind intimidated by the scale of the game.

    Think it might be too big for its own good tbh.
  • ResidentKnievel 27 Nov 2012 14:07:55 6,110 posts
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    Zero rocks if you get the cursed weapons from the Captain Scarlett DLC, exploding 200% extra damage melee attack!

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  • Vortex808 27 Nov 2012 14:50:15 6,940 posts
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    Shit, are the cursed items good? I figured they were like that awful other cursed item from a quest that was good to use, but painful on the ears.

    I sold all the cursed items I have so far, since the text seemed to suggest they might hurt you back in some cases!

    Have I made a massive blunder by not checking online first?
  • ecureuil 27 Nov 2012 16:09:12 76,488 posts
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    They all have a downside but overall they're good, especially when combined. To use RK's example, you get a shield that does explosive damage when you melee, and an assault rifle that has 200% melee damage. So it's a big damage buff when combined, and I actually spent a lot of the DLC running around stabsploding everything.

    Edited by ecureuil at 16:10:00 27-11-2012
  • Vortex808 27 Nov 2012 16:32:36 6,940 posts
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    Ah. Oh well, easy come, easy go.... I remember trying the rifle, but I got damaged too, so figured they were not good for my health. It may possibly have been someone else shooting at me after reading what you wrote.

    I got a cursed relic last night that said it leached health, I wasn't sure if it was from them or me, so I just sold it after a quick try.

    As an aside, having mentioned assault rifles, I really hate the rocket assault rifles and wish they weren't so frequent. They were fun to start with, but now I want another decent spingun or some equivalent type. I had a great Incendiary one, but as I level up, it's losing it's efficacy.


    Booo.
  • Ged42 27 Nov 2012 20:52:33 7,700 posts
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    Some more gold key codes from Randy's twitter.

    PS3: C3WBT-TX6C3-T55CB-HTWTJ-KZHB5
    PC: 535JT-SBJ5C-WF33J-JBTBT-Z35WX
    X360: KJKJ3-ZBT3F-F9RB6-56JTB-ZKZXF
  • Metalfish 27 Nov 2012 22:05:48 8,786 posts
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    Zero suffers from crippling overspecialisation in two of his trees, but he can deliver stupid damage and/or wipe out hordes of enemies without taking a scratch. He'll never be the all rounder Axton is, but people who've written him off should see what deception + death mark slag kunais will do....
  • ecureuil 27 Nov 2012 22:21:41 76,488 posts
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    Yeah that's the one I use. I find the game way too hard with the other two trees. The kunai are excellent, one of my favourite skills of any character.
  • SomaticSense 28 Nov 2012 19:38:33 7,940 posts
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    Metalfish wrote:
    Zero suffers from crippling overspecialisation in two of his trees, but he can deliver stupid damage and/or wipe out hordes of enemies without taking a scratch. He'll never be the all rounder Axton is, but people who've written him off should see what deception + death mark slag kunais will do....
    Exactly this. I thought it was already established even throught the pre-release PR phase that Zero was the the 'skill' class. Obviously not enough.

    Zero is all about focusing on particular skills while fobbing off the others, that's his point. He's a better sniper by a million miles than anyone else when going down the sniping tree, and about 10x more devastating than anyone else when focusing on the melee tree. That's entirely the point, that you can only focus on one skill at a time and become ridiculously powerful at that one skill.

    In the hands of a gamer whose naturally good anyway at each particular skill without the buffs (those elite Battlefield snipers for example...), each tree makes him way, way, way more dangerous than any other character on the roster. Zero is the 'character' equivalent of the ideal behind TVHM. You get more reward, but you have to work much harder at it. That's exactly why Gearbox designed him the way they did.

    That you aren't getting on with him or think he's the worst character suggests that either you aren't using him properly, are not good enough at the particular skill you have chosen to focus on, or maybe have been too spoilt by letting the Commando's turrets do all the work ;)
  • SomaticSense 28 Nov 2012 19:44:59 7,940 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    Yeah that's the one I use. I find the game way too hard with the other two trees. The kunai are excellent, one of my favourite skills of any character.
    My Bloodshed tactics:

    See massive enemy, use Deception, go around the back of him, melee, enemy dead, see another enemy, go behind him, rinse repeat. If there are no enemies around to recharge the ability, then go into cover and try again. Remember, with a decent Amp shield you can also deal crazy damage by shooting while using Deception, then retreat into cover again.

    Against bosses like Bunk3r, the game becomes massively hard admittedly, which is one reason I struggled so much in TVHM. But for me large parts of the game were miles easier with Zero than with Gaige or Maya. Axton you can just drop the turret and be done with it. If that's more fun for you, then fine, but I find it hard to understand.

    Edited by SomaticSense at 19:45:21 28-11-2012
  • jambii267 30 Nov 2012 21:05:14 1,361 posts
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    Unkempt Harold is amazing, if you see it in the Torgue machines I would recommend picking it up!

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  • ecureuil 30 Nov 2012 21:40:36 76,488 posts
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    SomaticSense wrote:
    ecureuil wrote:
    Yeah that's the one I use. I find the game way too hard with the other two trees. The kunai are excellent, one of my favourite skills of any character.
    My Bloodshed tactics:

    See massive enemy, use Deception, go around the back of him, melee, enemy dead, see another enemy, go behind him, rinse repeat. If there are no enemies around to recharge the ability, then go into cover and try again. Remember, with a decent Amp shield you can also deal crazy damage by shooting while using Deception, then retreat into cover again.

    Against bosses like Bunk3r, the game becomes massively hard admittedly, which is one reason I struggled so much in TVHM. But for me large parts of the game were miles easier with Zero than with Gaige or Maya. Axton you can just drop the turret and be done with it. If that's more fun for you, then fine, but I find it hard to understand.
    I've played all the characters a lot (except Gunzerker) and I do enjoy them all. Favourite is probably the Siren, I just find her more fun to play as. I've been playing as Zero recently, up to level 42 with him now and I've been having a lot of fun. Not been dying much either, my main tactic is to identify the toughest enemy that's appeared, go in to deception and run in to his face and unload every kunai in one go, run behind him, and after I open fire it's enough to bring almost anything down very quickly. The combination of all the kunai + exploding decoy + the damage multiplier from deception and ambush shreds almost everything in seconds and is great fun.

    Deception recharges quickly enough that if I need it for a badass, I can duck behind cover and wait for the cooldown. This is the most fun I've had with Zero. I'll respec to Bloodshed again at 50 to see how it is. I liked it before but found it limited me in a few situations.
  • ecureuil 2 Dec 2012 14:21:18 76,488 posts
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    This finally happened, after 250 hours of gameplay.
  • khaz 2 Dec 2012 16:58:45 2,705 posts
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    And its not even that good.
  • ecureuil 2 Dec 2012 17:00:16 76,488 posts
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    Yeah it's useless. I already found a version of that shield from a chubby, it was the first one I found and it was useless back then. Even when it gives you rare loot it gives you shitty versions. When the loot is so rare then it should be at least guaranteed to be worthwhile. Shittest loot system ever.

    Edited by ecureuil at 17:04:15 02-12-2012
  • Metalfish 2 Dec 2012 19:05:59 8,786 posts
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    Found the turtle in a vending machine. I was on TVHM but it was only level 41 because the DLC doesn't clear properly until you exit the game. Stupid really.
  • jambii267 3 Dec 2012 04:21:30 1,361 posts
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    I got a Blast proof bee from the vending machines, talk about a useless Immunity.

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  • erekose200 3 Dec 2012 05:04:30 81 posts
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    I've reached level 50 and even on TVHM I'm just finding the game effortlessly easy and that's without using any orange gear. I'll wait until they raise the level cap before hitting any more DLC.
  • jambii267 7 Dec 2012 09:40:12 1,361 posts
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    The 24hour lockout on the raid bosses has been temporarily lifted, Farm those Seraph crystals to your heart's content!

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  • Rodriguez 13 Dec 2012 20:37:17 1,083 posts
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    Got this a few weeks back when Game did it for £19.99. Planning on playing it in split-screen co-op with my best mate and a few beers over the Christmas period and beyond like we did on the first one! I see a big patch just landed today too so hopefully that'll iron out any major problems the game may have had.

    Any tips from those who've played this on a good pairing of the available characters, bearing in mind I don't have the pre-launch DLC that included the 'Mechromancer' class? I used the Siren in the first game and my mate used the Berserker.
  • Gruff 13 Dec 2012 20:41:18 2,839 posts
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    One has to be the female character and the other one of the male characters....

    You can work out the rest

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  • themanfromdelmonte 13 Dec 2012 21:45:40 566 posts
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    I could imagine Siren and Gunzerker being a good combo. Once Siren gets the phaselock ability that can affect multiple enemies.

    I've only played Gunzerker upto about level 7 and not played Siren yet. But I think their skills would compliment each other.
  • dsmx 13 Dec 2012 23:05:47 7,555 posts
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    Gunzerker is quite an interesting class because you can tank with it, go for all out damage or spec for colossal burst damage. But whatever spec you go with since you can dual wield you can do something no other class can do on it's own, fire slag weapons and normal weapons at the same time.

    "If we hit that bullseye the rest of the dominoes will fall like a a house of cards, checkmate." Zapp Brannigan

  • SFD 13 Dec 2012 23:19:14 481 posts
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    Anyone looking for a co op partner?

    360 version.
  • oldschoolsoviet 13 Dec 2012 23:28:55 5,457 posts
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    Next DLC leaked: Sir Hammerlock’s Big Game Hunt

    I'm expect a jolly spiffing ensemble of upper class what-ho shenanigans.

    Or jokes about tea. I say !
  • Flying_Pig 13 Dec 2012 23:31:47 10,682 posts
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    \o/
  • dsmx 13 Dec 2012 23:58:51 7,555 posts
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    Now that sounds Like a great place to use my 19k damage 180% critical hit sniper rifle

    "If we hit that bullseye the rest of the dominoes will fall like a a house of cards, checkmate." Zapp Brannigan

  • Folant 13 Dec 2012 23:58:56 1,161 posts
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    +1 for someone on couch co-op having to be siren.
    Started this with my brother yesterday. Not as good as the first so far, and a lot less impactful. Maybe it's because we rinsed the first something hardcore, but still.

    Siren is awesome.

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  • khaz 14 Dec 2012 14:13:14 2,705 posts
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    dsmx wrote:
    Now that sounds Like a great place to use my 19k damage 180% critical hit sniper rifle
    That's quite weak frankly. If its a level 50 character, your average sniper rifle should be 24k base damage at a minimum.
  • ecureuil 14 Dec 2012 14:15:28 76,488 posts
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    This DLC will likely raise the level cap so your level 50 sniper rifle is soon going to be pretty useless.
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