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  • Mr-Brett 23 Apr 2013 14:52:43 12,896 posts
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    Not really, he just wants to get out of the north (beyond the wall) because otherwise they're all fucked. So his only chance is to unite the tribes and hope it's an enough force to get past The Wall.

    Edited by Mr-Brett at 14:53:12 23-04-2013

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  • Daddy-Doom-Bar 23 Apr 2013 14:58:08 2,459 posts
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    But surely if he's got the gift of the gab enough to unite these warring factions, he's had the chance to get those in power let him and his men into Westeros without a fight?

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  • ronuds 23 Apr 2013 15:00:28 21,788 posts
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    Why did Snow and co. leave the wall in the first place?
  • Duffking 23 Apr 2013 15:03:32 7,571 posts
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    Investigating the white walkers, killing them off it possible
    and, finding Benjen. They sent Alliser Thorne off to King's landing with the arm of the wight Jon killed and Mormont took a bunch of the rest out on the ranging.
  • President_Weasel 23 Apr 2013 15:04:06 9,663 posts
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    ronuds wrote:
    Why did Snow and co. leave the wall in the first place?
    Investigate rumours of a wildling army (turned out to be true) and maybe do something to weaken or delay it (turned out to be rendered moot by a massive Ice Zombie attack).
  • Daddy-Doom-Bar 23 Apr 2013 15:04:45 2,459 posts
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    Yeah what happened to Alliser and that arm? Was it ever mentioned again?

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  • Duffking 23 Apr 2013 15:07:21 7,571 posts
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    It hasn't come up yet, no.
  • ronuds 23 Apr 2013 15:12:52 21,788 posts
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    Oh, that's right - seems like ages ago he killed the zombie.
  • Mola_Ram 23 Apr 2013 15:16:11 8,289 posts
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    Twas back in Season 1. All their motivation for going north was explained there, pretty much.
  • TOOTR 23 Apr 2013 15:18:34 9,650 posts
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    What was the meaning behind Joffrey's tour (apart from natalie Dormer being able to pretend that she's a murder loving psycho too)?

    I mean specifically - what was the relevance of mentioning that all the Targaryens are buried there?

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  • TOOTR 23 Apr 2013 16:16:33 9,650 posts
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    Dragon Mother scrubbed up all right last ep :

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  • Baihu1983 23 Apr 2013 16:17:33 3,638 posts
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    Brilliant episode.
  • varsas 23 Apr 2013 16:21:56 2,414 posts
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    TOOTR wrote:
    What was the meaning behind Joffrey's tour (apart from natalie Dormer being able to pretend that she's a murder loving psycho too)?

    I mean specifically - what was the relevance of mentioning that all the Targaryens are buried there?
    It was mentioned that weddings traditionally took place in the building, the couple and matriarchs were taking a look at it.

    Edited by varsas at 16:22:42 23-04-2013
  • President_Weasel 23 Apr 2013 16:22:50 9,663 posts
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    TOOTR wrote:
    What was the meaning behind Joffrey's tour (apart from natalie Dormer being able to pretend that she's a murder loving psycho too)?

    I mean specifically - what was the relevance of mentioning that all the Targaryens are buried there?
    He's excited by talking about all the interestingly and inventively gruesome deaths, she's pretending to be excited too: she's quite cunning and manipulative and the only person in ages who's come close to having a handle on him (the handle is his penis).
    She gets him to come and wave to the crowds and he finds out he quite likes the adulation instead of just despising the commoners: she's quite cunning and manipulative, and has a handle on him and on the mob.
    Cersei isn't happy about it but realises (again, some more) she has little control over her son. She's jealous of Margery Tyrell, hence her "the Tyrells are a problem" speech to Charles Dance.

    That's the point of it.
  • Waffleaber 23 Apr 2013 20:49:09 463 posts
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    So, how long can Dany remain under the radar to the kings in Westeros?

    If memory serves last they knew she was getting packed off to marry a Dothraki by her brother (I think Tyrion made mentioned of it in season one but it's been a while.)

    Even if they haven't been keeping close tabs on her surely freeing an entire slave city, killing the ruling class and matching off with an army of crack troops with dragons would be big news a spy of Varys or Little Finger would pick up on. Seems inconceivable they wouldn't have some spy's over the water.
  • Daddy-Doom-Bar 23 Apr 2013 20:53:44 2,459 posts
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    It was Ser Jorah Mormont giving them the info before, but I'm guessing not now he's more loyal to her. Varys will hear of it soon enough. I'm guessing they'll hear next episode, but there's nothing they can do till she lands in Westeros.

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  • Baihu1983 23 Apr 2013 21:12:20 3,638 posts
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    Not just Mormont but Illyrio Mopatis who was seen talking to Varys in Kings Landing.

    Edited by Baihu1983 at 21:12:39 23-04-2013
  • Daddy-Doom-Bar 23 Apr 2013 21:18:28 2,459 posts
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    Ah...crickey you must have been keen eyed to spot that. Happy I'm watching thru it again as there's clearly things I missed.

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  • Vortex808 23 Apr 2013 22:14:41 7,584 posts
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    That was a great episode. I loved the ending, but there were so many great scenes all the way through.
  • Errol 24 Apr 2013 00:04:11 12,557 posts
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    Why doesn't Jorah Mormant have the brand mark on his face?
  • PazJohnMitch 24 Apr 2013 03:53:02 8,731 posts
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    Errol wrote:
    Why doesn't Jorah Mormant have the brand mark on his face?
    Probably the same reason Tyrion still has a nose. (The budget was spent elsewhere).
  • Mola_Ram 24 Apr 2013 06:21:10 8,289 posts
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    Yeah, I'm a little disappointed that Tyrion doesn't look more disfigured. I guess there's only so much that makeup can do.
  • Baihu1983 24 Apr 2013 08:44:42 3,638 posts
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    Errol wrote:
    Why doesn't Jorah Mormant have the brand mark on his face?
    Because that happens in Dance with Dragons. The guys simply a deserter right now and He was a merc at the start of GoT

    As for Tyrion's nose My guess is make up wouldn't do it so he would have to wear the green screen stuff on his nose all day which would probably make things hard.
  • brokenkey 24 Apr 2013 09:10:07 7,156 posts
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    There was a nice line from Cercsi about Tyrion's nose in EP1:
    "They say you'd lost your nose, but its not as gruesome as that."

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  • Baihu1983 24 Apr 2013 09:57:26 3,638 posts
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    Daddy-Doom-Bar wrote:
    Yeah what happened to Alliser and that arm? Was it ever mentioned again?
    Nope.

    In the books it takes place when Tyrion is hand of the king but because he never liked Alliser he made him wait and by the time he was seen he was simply mocked by Tyrion and the hand have dissolved away to nothing meaning the trip was a waste.

    Not sure when he will come back into the show? probably season 4.


    Edited by Baihu1983 at 18:41:03 24-04-2013
  • Iain815 24 Apr 2013 18:36:12 441 posts
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    FUCK OFF. Gah!
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    Book comments need to fuck off and have a separate thread.
  • Baihu1983 24 Apr 2013 18:40:15 3,638 posts
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    ??

    If you mean my last post that's something that's clearly been 100% cut from the show or it would have happened last season.

    My GUESS is Alliser will come back next season but who knows?
  • Salaman 24 Apr 2013 19:42:40 19,611 posts
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    Baihu1983 wrote:
    ??

    If you mean my last post that's something that's clearly been 100% cut from the show or it would have happened last season.

    My GUESS is Alliser will come back next season but who knows?
    Well you did go and tell everyone here that Alliser's trip was for nothing. So I can see where people are annoyed. Until now it was "Hey ... we've not seen the dude with the arm for a while ... I wonder if he will show up at some time".
    You've waded in with "well actually he hasn't shown up but I have outside knowledge that if he does show up it will be actually turn out that his trip was a waste of time.


    There's a thread called "thread of ice and fire" or something. If you notice yourself typing the words "well ... in the books" go to that thread as you're 90% sure to get people's back up even if you think they're overreacting.

    Edited by Salaman at 19:43:15 24-04-2013
  • Baihu1983 24 Apr 2013 19:47:18 3,638 posts
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    Well if people are upset that something that's been 100% cut from the show was mentioned here then sorry.
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