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  • You-can-call-me-kal 6 Sep 2017 09:27:30 9,345 posts
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    Mola_Ram wrote:
    No, Sansa is great. More than anyone (at least, more than any other Stark) she understands the world as it really is, not as how she wants it to be.

    And in a world like the one in this show, where well-meaning but naive people get corrupted (see: Arya, who's a bit of a psychopath now, also Dany) or killed (see: just about every other member of the Stark family), that is a real strength. She earned this wisdom the hard way, but it's wisdom nonetheless.
    Unfortunately Sophie Turner doesn't have the ability to create any of the pathos required to bring this to the character.
  • nickthegun 6 Sep 2017 09:28:48 71,332 posts
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    Which makes her being cast as Jean Grey all the more incredible, but there you go.

    As an aside, I think the only one of the young cast who will do anything worthwhile in the future is Arya.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 6 Sep 2017 09:48:03 9,345 posts
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    She's not that attractive, so she's not allowed to have a meaningful career in acting.
  • Mola_Ram 6 Sep 2017 09:48:26 15,957 posts
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    Well yeah, I guess that's the ideal of the character, minus (or plus) whatever the actor brings to the role. It's a shame, because certain characters (looking at you, Jon Snow) I would find so much more compelling if the actors didn't have the charisma of a plank of wood.
  • Mola_Ram 6 Sep 2017 09:53:47 15,957 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    Mola_Ram wrote:
    If I were Jon, I'd recognise that and give her the leadership role on a permanent basis. She's clearly better at it.
    No you wouldnt. One of the sub-morals of the show is that women are given nothing and if they want it, they have to take it by force.
    OK, if I were Jon would say "you're next in line if I die", then happily lead myself and all of my men off a very tall cliff because it seemed like a bright idea at the time.
  • Supra_Hans 6 Sep 2017 10:25:36 72 posts
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    Mola_Ram wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    Mola_Ram wrote:
    If I were Jon, I'd recognise that and give her the leadership role on a permanent basis. She's clearly better at it.
    No you wouldnt. One of the sub-morals of the show is that women are given nothing and if they want it, they have to take it by force.
    OK, if I were Jon would say "you're next in line if I die", then happily lead myself and all of my men off a very tall cliff because it seemed like a bright idea at the time.
    Nah, that's far too sensible for Jon, he'd almost certainly not name any sort of successor, then happily lead himself and all his men off a tall cliff because it seemed like a bright idea at the time.
  • AceGrace 6 Sep 2017 10:43:36 3,077 posts
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    Hot pie! I bloody knew it
  • Skirlasvoud 6 Sep 2017 10:58:36 2,622 posts
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    AceGrace wrote:
    Hot pie! I bloody knew it

    Newman!

    I mean young version of Newman!


    I mean Hotpie! Hotpie, yes, that's who I mean.
  • beastmaster 6 Sep 2017 22:16:03 17,264 posts
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    Just found out that The Hound actor played the "YARP" guy who worked in the supermarket in Hot Fuzz!
  • ubergine 7 Sep 2017 10:27:59 7,349 posts
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    Yarp.
  • mothercruncher 7 Sep 2017 13:03:44 13,761 posts
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    Weirdly, a slightly grey Newman turned up, all serious like, in Narcos last night.
  • mecha-DR 11 Sep 2017 19:42:41 280 posts
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    So, uh...is the next season soon?

    /waits quietly...

    Edited by mecha-DR at 19:49:03 11-09-2017
  • Baihu1983 11 Sep 2017 20:22:53 9,016 posts
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    2019 most likely
  • mecha-DR 11 Sep 2017 23:07:30 280 posts
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    I'll just listen to this on repeat for two years solid then.



    Edited by mecha-DR at 23:09:03 11-09-2017
  • mecha-DR 11 Sep 2017 23:19:26 280 posts
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    Or I could read the books, as I should have done before watching, yep still pissed about that. As the book is always better.
  • Baihu1983 12 Sep 2017 06:28:11 9,016 posts
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    Yeah but the books don't get a ending
  • Dougs 12 Sep 2017 06:41:24 83,121 posts
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    mecha-DR wrote:
    Or I could read the books, as I should have done before watching, yep still pissed about that. As the book is always better.
    Not in this case imo.
  • Duffking 12 Sep 2017 07:26:22 14,610 posts
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    They are better, especially the first 3. 4 and 5 are not very good but neither is the season based on them.

    On the other hand, they're never going to be finished anyway.
  • mecha-DR 12 Sep 2017 08:43:24 280 posts
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    It's funny how GRR Martin does any job going to avoid finishing game of thrones.
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 12 Sep 2017 08:51:43 9,867 posts
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    He does make exceedingly good fish fingers though.
  • ubergine 12 Sep 2017 08:54:50 7,349 posts
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    The show does some things much better than the books, and some things worse. One of the things it does better is Actually Existing In The First Place. Some of the books exist, but they've done a fucking terrible job of it for about fifteen years now.
  • drhickman1983 12 Sep 2017 09:03:15 4,905 posts
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    Whilst the show can be a bit too truncated and a bit too contrived, the books went the other direction where things just meander along, and could actually do with a few contrivances to get things moving.

    ...are book mentioned allowed now?
  • mecha-DR 12 Sep 2017 09:06:16 280 posts
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    Why not, you can't spoil anything now can you?
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 12 Sep 2017 09:10:01 9,867 posts
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    I think there's still things that have happened in the books that haven't happened in the show yet. Someone told me about someone dying who is still alive in the book.
  • drhickman1983 12 Sep 2017 09:14:12 4,905 posts
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    There are whole subplots in the books excised from the show. It does make me think the subplots will be essentially pointless.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 12 Sep 2017 10:03:22 9,345 posts
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    mecha-DR wrote:
    Why not, you can't spoil anything now can you?
    It's possible that things that happen in the books might yet be written into the series at a later point.

    But really the main reason is that book discussions are really irritating for people who aren't reading them, and that's why there's another thread for it.
  • Rivuzu 12 Sep 2017 10:07:50 16,239 posts
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    Yup. Some characters alive in the show are dead in the books and vice versa. Very much on a different tangent.
  • ubergine 12 Sep 2017 17:20:00 7,349 posts
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    It's not because the TV show hasn't caught up, but rather that the show is utterly off script so far as what the novels did. I don't believe there's a single thing remaining in the books that will appear in or influence the show in its final 6-9 hours.
  • RichDC 12 Sep 2017 17:44:54 7,490 posts
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  • RichDC 12 Sep 2017 17:44:54 7,490 posts
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    It's also not entirely unrealistic to think that there will be people in here who watched the show but have not read the books and want to, and don't want all the little (and big) differences spoilt.
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