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  • DigitalDelay 3 Sep 2013 15:49:09 216 posts
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    Seems the press conference has been cancelled due to security concerns. Strange.

    I notice how Israel have done a sneaky missile test this morning. They've been pretty quiet recently. I'd have thought they might've stated their intentions in all this a bit more, considering their interests.

    Obama has now also said that his main aim is to deter and degrade Assad, whilst upgrading the capabilties of the opposition. An opposition that is fragmented to say the least and as I've said before, incorporates Obamas very own evil enemy Al Quada and Co. What's he gonna do about them? Fight them? Ignore them? Kick them out? The lines are so blurry in Syria for those getting involved.
  • fletch7100 3 Sep 2013 15:58:39 7,220 posts
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    bitch_tits_zero_nine wrote:
    I saw a documentary which showed the cells where they held political prisoners in the Ukraine.

    They filled the bottom foot of the cell with cold water so that the prisoners couldn't lie down.
    Should watch Taxi from the Dark Side then
  • Deleted user 3 September 2013 21:50:10
    Seems Obama is 100% behind an attack of sorts. Should Syria retaliate, things could get interesting. Obama's plan to upgrade the capabilities of the opposition sound's er, like a novel approach. It almost sounds like the U.S. plan to bomb the sh-t out of Syria's military bases, then arm the rebels. Should the rebel's show signs of loosing, then maybe the U.S. will have to send in a few more missiles.
  • FWB 3 Sep 2013 21:51:58 44,228 posts
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    Obama doesn't want to be the only president to never have started a war.
  • reggy72 3 Sep 2013 22:13:28 272 posts
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    FWB wrote:
    Obama doesn't want to be the only president to never have started a war.
    And the fucker has a Nobel peace prize!

    Read a few rumours that a F22 has been downed on the Syrian/Jordanian border, probably a load of bull, but if true does this mean some sort of action has taken place without congressional approval? and once again if true then Syria must be packing some top end Russian SAM systems possibly S400's. But then again probably not

    Edited by reggy72 at 22:16:36 03-09-2013
  • Bremenacht 3 Sep 2013 22:20:47 17,787 posts
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    Well, there was that fuss over missiles sold to Syria a short while back, which may have been deployed

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/russias-s-300-surface-to-air-missile-already-deployed-and-functional-in-syria-the-ordnance-bothering-the-allies/5336882

    The swine.
  • FWB 3 Sep 2013 22:26:12 44,228 posts
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    God, Soviet/Russian equipment is hideous. Looks like it'd collapse after one shot.
  • RedSparrows 3 Sep 2013 22:45:28 22,300 posts
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    Dunno about you, but I'd rather not take on one of these one:



    Edited by RedSparrows at 22:56:30 03-09-2013
  • Bremenacht 3 Sep 2013 22:47:18 17,787 posts
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    Then there's the other stuff for shooting down cruise missiles. Tricky one for the USA that. If all these things work, then America's air superiority has gone and every rogue state will go buying Russian kit and do whatever they like, knowing the US is squeamish about sending in troops. They'll have to shell targets from the sea.
  • TheSaint 3 Sep 2013 22:49:26 14,303 posts
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    Russia should just send in a Tanya.
  • FWB 3 Sep 2013 22:52:59 44,228 posts
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    The US military must love it. If the Russian stuff works, they can demand more money for development.

    Remember the military guys on both sides are uber dicks, who think it is all one big game whereby they get to play with a bunch of toys and squeeze more cash out of their moronic governments who refuse to stop waving their dicks around and settle down for talks.

    Wankers. All of them.

    Edited by FWB at 23:00:25 03-09-2013
  • Bremenacht 3 Sep 2013 22:54:32 17,787 posts
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    It's big business. They don't want the Russians getting it all.
  • FWB 3 Sep 2013 22:55:39 44,228 posts
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    And they rely on each other to maintain it. Highlights what hypocrites they all are when bitching about missiles being placed around.

    Edited by FWB at 22:58:12 03-09-2013
  • RightBean 3 Sep 2013 22:59:36 639 posts
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    vive la france
  • WoodenSpoon 3 Sep 2013 23:26:34 12,285 posts
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    TheSaint wrote:
    Russia should just send in a Tanya.
    Come on guy, Tanya works for the allies.
  • TheSaint 3 Sep 2013 23:40:35 14,303 posts
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    C&C fail on my part there.
  • Deleted user 3 September 2013 23:51:25
    Hehe. It the world goes boom, at least we're making C&C references to the very end.
  • RightBean 4 Sep 2013 02:45:58 639 posts
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    http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/09/03/as-obama-lobbies-for-votes-assad-is-moving-his-troops-and-hardware-into-civilian-areas/

    Asshead lol
  • Deleted user 4 September 2013 21:12:17
    TheSaint wrote:
    Russia should just send in a Tanya.
    ..is like a tall blonde ?
  • Bremenacht 4 Sep 2013 21:34:34 17,787 posts
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    Actress out of Coronation Street.
  • glaeken 4 Sep 2013 22:46:47 11,143 posts
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    FWB wrote:
    The US military must love it. If the Russian stuff works, they can demand more money for development.

    Remember the military guys on both sides are uber dicks, who think it is all one big game whereby they get to play with a bunch of toys and squeeze more cash out of their moronic governments who refuse to stop waving their dicks around and settle down for talks.

    Wankers. All of them.
    It would be a gift to the US military industrial complex to face some advanced weaponry. They have been trying to justify building stuff to face a technologically advanced enemy which no longer really exists for a long time.
  • Khanivor 4 Sep 2013 22:47:02 40,542 posts
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    It's weird how someone can be labelled a war monger when they have waited over two years to get involved in the war, set a strong criteria for getting involved and then after that criteria has supposedly been met still hasn't gotten around to warring it up a fortnight later.

    Maybe he is. He sure likes to blow people up with drones. But winding down two wars kinda goes against the argument.

    Tricky.
  • Anthony_UK 4 Sep 2013 23:16:16 2,482 posts
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    Personally I don't think Obama wants to touch Syria with a barge pole, especially now the UK have washed their hands of it. But to draw his line in the sand and for them to apparently cross it, to back down would be a sure sign of weakness.

    That the senate can't decide on anything at the best of times makes me believe despite the tough talk, this is his way of getting out of going in. It won't be him that's backed down.

    Edited by Anthony_UK at 23:17:45 04-09-2013
  • DigitalDelay 4 Sep 2013 23:29:33 216 posts
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    Notice how Obama & Kerry are now creeping in phrases such as "acting out of our national security interests"? I was wondering whn they'd roll that out. Would be hard to make an argument backing it up though don't you think?

    I'd say there could be a threat to US security, say, if the rebels take over bases that have been attacked by the US, then go on to claim WMD for themselves. With no boots on the ground, who's to stop them from taking it? The jihadists will be on the lookout and would fight them for it for sure. Could end up with a WMD black market if everything goes to shit.

    I really do think the US is going to stir up something quite scary in the region in the coming weeks, months... years.
  • oceanmotion 4 Sep 2013 23:33:31 15,820 posts
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    Joysticks and hamburgers at the ready.
  • RightBean 4 Sep 2013 23:44:28 639 posts
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    The only thing he is worried about is his image, he's a politician, and they didn't elect an obama that blows shit up. They elected black jesus
  • Bremenacht 4 Sep 2013 23:57:29 17,787 posts
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    One more gas attack and it will be inevitable. I guess they're hoping the wardrum-beating will cow Assad, or cow his commanders.
  • Khanivor 5 Sep 2013 00:22:22 40,542 posts
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    I think the argument about national security may be thought of by its propenents in terms of global image. As in, if we don't react to this thing we said we'd react to then it will negatively impact our global influence. Not necessarily in terms of scaring other people off from being bad but for the US' allies and friends in the area wondering just how serious the US is about swinging its dick around in the region. Make no mistake, a great number of countries in the area might talk bad about the US but fucking love having them around.
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