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  • mal 8 Nov 2013 17:32:06 24,331 posts
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    The outcome of general elections has a pretty big effect on the way the country heads over the next five years. Problem is, nobody voting knows what any of the parties really represent, only vague stereotypes based on the last time they were in power.
  • spamdangled 8 Nov 2013 17:33:54 27,933 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    We decide nothing about the future of our country when we don't vote, and remove our ability to criticise those in power for not doing what they promised.
    Totally agree.
  • Deleted user 8 November 2013 17:39:13
    I agree tbh, but allow me to make a slight derail:

    How many people have to stop voting before it gets to a point where an elected party isn't really valid?

    (If I phrased that properly)
  • spamdangled 8 Nov 2013 17:42:29 27,933 posts
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    Bremenacht wrote:
    I agree tbh, but allow me to make a slight derail:

    How many people have to stop voting before it gets to a point where an elected party isn't really valid?

    (If I phrased that properly)
    I'd say we crossed that bridge a long time ago, tbh.
  • Deleted user 8 November 2013 17:43:52
    I don't know that the apathy towards our political system necessarily has to be a progressively downward trend.

    Obama proved that the right man can inspire and engender a groundswell of political interest.
  • Moot_Point 8 Nov 2013 23:03:45 4,778 posts
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    Bremenacht wrote:
    I agree tbh, but allow me to make a slight derail:

    How many people have to stop voting before it gets to a point where an elected party isn't really valid?

    (If I phrased that properly)
    Two thirds majority.

    Edit (67%)

    Edited by Moot_Point at 23:07:06 08-11-2013
  • Deleted user 8 November 2013 23:33:03
    There's an actual measure? My question was rhetorical. Or so I thought.
  • BernieLentils 8 Nov 2013 23:50:06 47 posts
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    bitch_tits_zero_nine wrote:
    I don't know that the apathy towards our political system necessarily has to be a progressively downward trend.

    Obama proved that the right man can inspire and engender a groundswell of political interest.
    As did Tony Blair....
  • Mr_Sleep 8 Nov 2013 23:54:45 18,356 posts
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    Look where that got us. I am not sure the British public will be accepting any time soon of messianic figures after the Blair years.
  • Moot_Point 9 Nov 2013 00:11:52 4,778 posts
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    Oh dear!

    I am so shocked. /sarcasm
  • Moot_Point 9 Nov 2013 00:14:15 4,778 posts
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    @Bremenacht If two thirds do not vote, it shows the lack of confidence in the political system by the populace. But don't worry those entering the country will make up the shortfall. ;)
  • spamdangled 9 Nov 2013 04:34:12 27,933 posts
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    @Moot_Point

    It's almost scary how much the bloke in that photo resembles a young George Osborne.
  • Deleted user 9 November 2013 07:57:17
    LeoliansBro wrote:
    We decide nothing about the future of our country when we don't vote, and remove our ability to criticise those in power for not doing what they promised.
    Or, by voting we legitimise these parties and individuals and make it seem like we think it is okay for them to carry on doing what they are doing (largely lining their own pockets and those of their university buddies).

    Edited by tincanrocket at 07:57:51 09-11-2013
  • Moot_Point 9 Nov 2013 09:20:32 4,778 posts
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    Sir, sir it's them!


    Pathetic!
  • Moot_Point 12 Nov 2013 12:34:36 4,778 posts
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    A FRENCH politician has slammed Britain’s “grotesque and hypocritical” immigration policies for leaving Calais overrun with migrants, says the article.
  • whatfruit 12 Nov 2013 13:00:50 2,051 posts
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    @LeoliansBro The article has been used for the express to push its agenda. If you strip out all the IMMIGRANTS! nonsense this a is a french govement offical for Calais saying that due to our percived soft immigration polices Calis is slowly filling up with migrants trying to head for the UK. If they are refused entry then they simply wait in Calais for an opportunity to cross illegally or pay a shifty man.

    He is more moaning that this is ruining the city of Calais with homeless migrants sleeping in the park and needs to be addressed.
  • Moot_Point 12 Nov 2013 13:05:08 4,778 posts
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    So this is an EU immigration policy issue really?
  • spamdangled 12 Nov 2013 13:06:15 27,933 posts
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    Moot_Point wrote:
    A FRENCH politician has slammed Britain’s “grotesque and hypocritical” immigration policies for leaving Calais overrun with migrants, says the article.
    Right-wing politician in slamming immigrants and the UK shocker.

    Also, what LB said.

    Edited by darkmorgado at 13:07:15 12-11-2013
  • whatfruit 12 Nov 2013 13:11:43 2,051 posts
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    I've never been able to understand how these people cross so many borders to get to the UK. Surely they could have been stopped by the other nations border secuirty before they cross the channel.
  • TheSaint 12 Nov 2013 13:13:14 15,788 posts
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    I assume the express also mentioned how the French murdered Diana?
  • Moot_Point 12 Nov 2013 13:14:21 4,778 posts
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    If they are refused entry to the UK, surely that is grounds for the EU to send them back to their respective countries. Or am I missing something?
  • ScoutTech 12 Nov 2013 13:24:43 2,429 posts
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    I heard this on the Radio a few days ago and was bemused. Apparently he thinks we lure immigrants with free housing and free money and unicorns and then they go through his country. As others have said, why don't they improve their immigration controls and clear the camps. Why are France expecting us to deal with them and not themselves.
  • BeardedGamerUK 12 Nov 2013 13:41:59 1,979 posts
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    France always wants other countries to sort out problems they should be sorting out themselves.

    Notnecessarilyawarreference.
  • spamdangled 12 Nov 2013 13:51:39 27,933 posts
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    Moot_Point wrote:
    If they are refused entry to the UK, surely that is grounds for the EU to send them back to their respective countries. Or am I missing something?
    A lot of them are asylum seekers fleeing Syria, from the sound of it.
  • Deleted user 12 November 2013 14:07:48
    He should stop reading the Express.
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