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  • BeardedGamerUK 2 Oct 2013 14:26:08 1,344 posts
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    darkmorgado wrote:
    Dear god, there's a Tory on Newsnight I actually just agreed with.

    /checks sky for flying pigs
    Cancel your Guardian subscription right now!!!!! :D
  • BeardedGamerUK 2 Oct 2013 14:33:47 1,344 posts
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    I heard Michael Gove on Radio 4 earlier covering himself in glory talking about potentially taking away all benefits for some under 25's, thereby legitimising a criminal underclass. If someone won't accept poor training and a piss take of an offer of so called education and have their benefits taken away, then obviously they are going to turn to crime. He also went out of his way to defend the right of the press to print what it wants, in the wake of the fuss over the Daily Heil and the muckraking by them about Ed Milliband's father. He also rather patronisingly said that he knew what it was like to not have much money when he was young. Bullshit! He's an absolute c*nt!

    Edited by BeardedGamerUK at 14:47:15 02-10-2013
  • spamdangled 2 Oct 2013 14:41:55 27,276 posts
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    Young people are defined as "Under 25". It seems a bit arbitrary really to my mind, but I'm sure there's some sort of reasoning behind it, probably defined in law somewhere. You don't, after all, suddenly wake up on your 25th birthday and magically become an old person.

    Well, usually. It was my 30th birthday for me that did it :D

    Edited by darkmorgado at 14:43:29 02-10-2013

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  • BeardedGamerUK 2 Oct 2013 14:46:36 1,344 posts
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    Yeah I remember being 30, seems ages ago now...........oh right it was :D
  • TheSaint 2 Oct 2013 14:53:34 14,272 posts
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    No harm in in pissing off the under 25s as the only voting they do is for X-Factor.

    /Old

    Edited by TheSaint at 14:54:47 02-10-2013
  • TheSaint 2 Oct 2013 14:55:32 14,272 posts
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    BeardedGamerUK wrote:
    thereby legitimising a criminal underclass.
    If you say so.
  • Psychotext 2 Oct 2013 20:22:30 53,920 posts
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    I love this earning or learning shit. I mean, aside from the fact that there are fuck all jobs out there and the fact that education costs money once you're past the age of 18...

    ...but sure, get a degree or something. If you're lucky you might even get to keep it on your CV when you apply for that seasonal work.
  • spamdangled 7 Oct 2013 22:35:08 27,276 posts
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    Newsnight now reporting that the press' version of the royal charter has been rejected.

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  • TheSaint 8 Oct 2013 09:25:04 14,272 posts
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    So this new Lib Dem home office minister sounds like a bit of a tin foil hat nutter.
  • tincanrocket 22 Oct 2013 15:24:36 2,935 posts
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    Do you think we could put in a transfer bid for this guy to be our PM? I'd happily give Uruguay a couple of million quid, and we could throw in 90% of our MPs as a sweetener. Hell, they can have the entire Blair family as well.
  • spamdangled 22 Oct 2013 15:49:12 27,276 posts
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    Well well.

    John Major stood up in the House of Commons this afternoon, which is exceptionally rare in itself.

    He's calling for an immediate emergency tax on their profits before the winter after the "unacceptable" price increases announced so far in the last couple of weeks.

    Downing street have apparently responded by saying his demand was "an interesting contribution".

    Before getting on the phone to MI5 to have him disappeared.

    probably

    Edited by darkmorgado at 15:50:32 22-10-2013

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  • Grax 22 Oct 2013 15:51:22 2,075 posts
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    @darkmorgado they cant disappear john major, they will just turn him into an alcoholic and send him to rehab
  • tincanrocket 22 Oct 2013 15:52:32 2,935 posts
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    Yeah, Major might step up to the wicket and call for an emergency tax on their profits, but Magic José would demand and enforce it (see my transfer bid post).
  • spamdangled 22 Oct 2013 15:57:59 27,276 posts
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    Grax wrote:
    @darkmorgado they cant disappear john major, they will just turn him into an alcoholic and send him to rehab
    True. After all, they've done it once before...



    Edited by darkmorgado at 15:58:12 22-10-2013

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  • glaeken 22 Oct 2013 16:09:09 11,134 posts
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    I am kind of surprised John Major is still an MP. What does he do all the time? It's odd to think he was once prime minister and has been happily existing in complete obscurity over the past few years (except for that brief blip about his fling with Curry).
  • senso-ji 5 Nov 2013 13:35:26 5,840 posts
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    Immigration is not a drain on resources. In fact, it has had the opposite effect.
  • Psychotext 5 Nov 2013 13:41:30 53,920 posts
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    It doesn't matter to your average BNP / UKIP / Conservative supporter though, it never has. The problem is that:

  • Dougs 5 Nov 2013 13:42:13 67,033 posts
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    glaeken wrote:
    I am kind of surprised John Major is still an MP. What does he do all the time? It's odd to think he was once prime minister and has been happily existing in complete obscurity over the past few years (except for that brief blip about his fling with Curry).
    Eh?! He left the Commons in 2001!
  • glaeken 5 Nov 2013 13:45:52 11,134 posts
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    I had assumed as he made a statement in the House of Commons he must still be an MP. I was responding to darkmongo's post about Major.
  • Dougs 5 Nov 2013 14:37:38 67,033 posts
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    Ah no, it was a Commons Press gallery lunch, not on the floor of the House. I had assumed he had been enobled, but it seems not. Which is odd given most of his Cabinet Ministers are now in the other place....
  • rhubarbandcustard 5 Nov 2013 15:04:06 115 posts
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    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timwigmore/100244413/the-immigration-debate-everyone-ignores-the-inconvenient-facts/

    Actually only immigrants from within Europe make an overall positive contribution to the economy.

    "Hidden away on page 41 of the Centre for Research and Analysis Migration's report – and something which the press release conspicuously ignores – were these figures. From 1995-2011 all non-EEA immigrants (rather than just the new arrivals) took £104,176 million more from the state than they brought it in tax revenues."

    That is a massive sum of money and a cause for concern.
  • Moot_Point 5 Nov 2013 15:09:26 3,960 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    Ah no, it was a Commons Press gallery lunch, not on the floor of the House. I had assumed he had been enobled, but it seems not. Which is odd given most of his Cabinet Ministers are now in the other place....
    Hell?

    Oh sorry, House of Lords first. ;)

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  • LeoliansBro 5 Nov 2013 15:13:51 43,672 posts
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    Have you looked at that report? Look at the next table down. 'Recent non EEA immigrant' figures are positive, not as strong as EEA immigrants but they still contribute. Hell, even comparing the two charts shows a large chunk of the problem is in the 1995-2001 band, so hardly current events. And meanwhile the lion's share of dependency on the state continues to come from natives, a situation that is worsening. Seems both sides are ignoring inconvenient facts.

    So should we remove everyone from the country apart from EEA immigrants?

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • rhubarbandcustard 5 Nov 2013 15:20:12 115 posts
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    http://www.debtbombshell.com

    Current UK debt - £1.23 trillion and rising

    Do I think allowing more non-contributors is wise? Not particularly.
  • LeoliansBro 5 Nov 2013 15:28:44 43,672 posts
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    They aren't non contributors though. They only used to be.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • LeoliansBro 5 Nov 2013 15:30:35 43,672 posts
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    And what a ridiculous website. An attempt to gain credibility by apeing the Economist, combined with bombast worthy of the Daily Mail, which ultimately turns into a begging letter complete with Paypal link for what must have been 15 minutes' work.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • Dougs 5 Nov 2013 15:34:49 67,033 posts
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    I daren't look at HYS or the Mail reporting of it.
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