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  • 4gate 19 Mar 2013 22:57:20 362 posts
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    They could have a "More of precisely the fucking same" street party.
  • Moot_Point 20 Mar 2013 10:25:47 3,500 posts
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    Anyone got a live link to the budget. I need a good laugh!

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  • imamazed 20 Mar 2013 10:27:00 5,450 posts
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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2013/mar/20/budget-2013-live-blog-osborne
  • mcmonkeyplc 20 Mar 2013 10:37:17 38,857 posts
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    What are the chances of an immediate stamp duty holiday for first time buyers?

    GIVE ME A BREAK GEORGE!

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Dougs 20 Mar 2013 13:11:21 64,887 posts
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    Unsurprisingly, another downgrade of the growth forecast. Key points so far:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21851965
  • mcmonkeyplc 20 Mar 2013 13:15:34 38,857 posts
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    2015 this 2016 that.

    Not much now....so far.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Dougs 20 Mar 2013 13:21:20 64,887 posts
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    Yeah, that's what struck me. Not watching though, so wasn't sure if it was just how it was being reported. Although, thinking about it, it's what Budgets do. Announcements that will come in down the line.
  • spamdangled 20 Mar 2013 13:22:10 27,197 posts
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    So a cancellation of fuel duty increase, a cancellation of beer duty. Other than that... it's a bit dull so far.

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  • mcmonkeyplc 20 Mar 2013 13:30:58 38,857 posts
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    That's it?!

    Utter utter bullshit.

    Welcome to stagnation Britain.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Deleted user 20 March 2013 13:37:48
    The biggest plus for me is the tax being brought forward. I don't earn more than 10k So the 200-300 Quid extra will be a great help. Hopefully i have a much better job this time next year though so it won't need applying.

    But yeah a bit dull really, but i don't think it could anything other than.

    Edited by joelstinton at 13:38:19 20-03-2013

    Edited by joelstinton at 13:38:39 20-03-2013
  • mcmonkeyplc 20 Mar 2013 13:40:16 38,857 posts
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    That's from 2014. You aren't getting shit this year :)

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • DaM 20 Mar 2013 13:40:48 12,603 posts
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    The first 2,000 to be taken off all employers' National Insurance bill - good for me, I can reinvest that in the business.

    Or pre-order a PS4!
  • Deleted user 20 March 2013 13:42:38
    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    That's from 2014. You aren't getting shit this year :)
    Its 8.8 K this year i think?
  • spamdangled 20 Mar 2013 13:42:53 27,197 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    That's from 2014. You aren't getting shit this year :)
    The threshold goes up this year too :)

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  • mcmonkeyplc 20 Mar 2013 13:51:19 38,857 posts
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    Not to 10,000.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Shikasama 20 Mar 2013 13:51:59 6,272 posts
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    Funny that the top two threads just now were:

    The UK General Politics Thread and;

    This is not a democracy
  • mcmonkeyplc 20 Mar 2013 13:55:33 38,857 posts
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    The National insurance relief, the cut in corporation tax, the incentives for shale gas investment all incentives for business.

    For the general public: working family child credit, 1p off a pint, freeze in fuel duty, equity loans for moving up the property loan.

    It doesn't feel like we're all in this together.

    A cut in VAT would've done better than all of that for the general public, instead he gives the equivalent cut to business only.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Mr_Sleep 20 Mar 2013 13:59:24 16,221 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    the incentives for shale gas investment all incentives for business.
    Yay! I for one love it when the water table is polluted and the countryside is destabilised. It brings a warm glow to my heart!

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • DaM 20 Mar 2013 14:00:44 12,603 posts
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    Business has to be supported. Growth is required. I've had nothing but losses in the past few budgets, this is the first I can remember where I'll have some extra cash to play with in growing my business.

    Small business owners are people, have families, too!

    The shale gas business is asking for trouble though.

    Did he say that Overseas Aid was still ringfenced? I heard a few mutterings by Tories, was worried maybe that was for the chop.

    Edited by DaM at 14:03:09 20-03-2013
  • mcmonkeyplc 20 Mar 2013 14:02:19 38,857 posts
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    Yeah I appreciate that but it takes time to filter down to general consumers. There just seems to be a lack of direct stimulus for the people that buy actual products.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • DaM 20 Mar 2013 14:04:14 12,603 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    Yeah I appreciate that but it takes time to filter down to general consumers. There just seems to be a lack of direct stimulus for the people that buy actual products.
    I think a general boost in economic confidence would help - if the gloom and doom recedes, people will start spending.
  • Shikasama 20 Mar 2013 14:07:19 6,272 posts
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    The representation of the economy in the media is a major contributor.
  • mcmonkeyplc 20 Mar 2013 14:09:07 38,857 posts
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    For that to happen we need to stimulate the business AND consumers not just one.

    He hasn't even managed to stimulate via the infrastructure spending this year. That has to wait to 2015. 3.5bn is peanuts even then.

    One more budget and outlook like that and George is finished.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • spamdangled 20 Mar 2013 14:09:46 27,197 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    Not to 10,000.
    No, but it still goes up quite a bit. It's gone up significantly every year this parliament (though it has been more than offset by the impact of the austerity measures and spiralling cost of living).

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  • rudedudejude 20 Mar 2013 14:12:57 2,098 posts
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    That 'raise your hand' move by milliband is without a doubt the only time he has ever entertained me and actually made me think he was quite original.

    More dramatic theatre in politics please!

    The shale gas move is just an invitation to bring big US business to the UK and see all revenues being sent abroad, through some fiddled tax arrangements no doubt. While making the earth shake. Woop!

    Edited by rudedudejude at 14:15:01 20-03-2013

    Edited by rudedudejude at 14:16:37 20-03-2013
  • RobTheBuilder 20 Mar 2013 14:16:35 6,521 posts
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    The fact that the Tories don't answer the question shows just how much they have to hide.
  • Mr_Sleep 20 Mar 2013 14:20:54 16,221 posts
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    Wow, 1p off the cost of a pint. It's like we're living in some kind of utopia. This is sure to make me run out and prop up the bar and the economy.

    All this talk of stimulating consumers, while I agree entirely, what is there to be consumed? Are you talking about housing, domestic appliances, household goods?

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • Mr_Sleep 20 Mar 2013 14:22:11 16,221 posts
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    rudedudejude wrote:
    The shale gas move is just an invitation to bring big US business to the UK and see all revenues being sent abroad, through some fiddled tax arrangements no doubt. While making the earth shake. Woop!
    It's so incredibly short sighted and wrong, I'd be very surprised if Osborne isn't getting ready for his career after steering the UK ship into the rocks.

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • mcmonkeyplc 20 Mar 2013 14:29:08 38,857 posts
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    Mr_Sleep wrote:
    Wow, 1p off the cost of a pint. It's like we're living in some kind of utopia. This is sure to make me run out and prop up the bar and the economy.

    All this talk of stimulating consumers, while I agree entirely, what is there to be consumed? Are you talking about housing, domestic appliances, household goods?
    Yes, all the things that would be happening should the economy ever grow. You buy a new house, improve your house because you're doing better because the company you work for/own is doing better. Because you spend more, more people have more money and they too can have more.

    Spend within your means though.

    Let's not get into the growth for the sake of growth argument either.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

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