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  • Gearskin 9 Nov 2017 15:59:53 3,071 posts
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    That's a way better dive than I could have done. On that basis I wish her the best of luck.
  • GoatApocalypse 9 Nov 2017 16:13:19 3,096 posts
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    Is it really OK to punch Nazis?

    https://twitter.com/aamer_rahman/status/927644648893399040
  • nudistpete 9 Nov 2017 16:21:11 159 posts
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    Gearskin wrote:
    That's a way better dive than I could have done. On that basis I wish her the best of luck.
    Plus she's a bit of a QT 3.14, like her predecessor. Although Priti always gave that "I'd climb over all of your rotting corpses to get the POWERS" vibe.
  • FilthyAnimal 9 Nov 2017 16:32:03 163 posts
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    @GoatApocalypse That is just brilliant.

    For what it's worth, I'm on the fence about punching Nazis, not because violence is inherently wrong, but because it's generally more difficult to be taken seriously among other people with genuine arguments. You can't beat a Nazi in this mythical "marketplace of ideas" because they don't have any rational ideas.

    As the saying goes (origin unknown, despite being wrongly attributed to both Mark Twain and George Carlin): "Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."

    But when he started taking the piss out of that "marketplace of ideas" crap (which I believe was started by that twisted fuckwit Milo Yanni-whatever), I was on the floor in stitches.

    Edited by FilthyAnimal at 16:32:22 09-11-2017
  • GoatApocalypse 9 Nov 2017 18:13:20 3,096 posts
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    As many here will know, I firmly believe we should punch Nazis until there are no Nazis left.
  • Deleted user 9 November 2017 18:18:43
    If you stare into the abyss.....you should still punch Nazis in the face.
  • whatfruitlivesagain 9 Nov 2017 18:21:37 539 posts
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    I believe it was the great 21st century philosopher Vardy who once said "chat shit, get banged"
  • Blurp 9 Nov 2017 18:32:32 1,042 posts
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    Amen.
  • challenge_hanukkah 9 Nov 2017 18:34:14 5,225 posts
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    Perhaps Mfolf is right!!!

    http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/corbyn-is-using-the-donald-trump-book-of-bs-sugar/
  • H1ggyLTD 9 Nov 2017 18:35:58 7,730 posts
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    Nick Ferrari.

    Right.



    Does not compute.
  • Blurp 9 Nov 2017 18:40:26 1,042 posts
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    The Donald Trump:

    Buy a suit with a red tie.
    Get a short haircut.
  • whatfruitlivesagain 9 Nov 2017 18:41:10 539 posts
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    Lord Sugar man
  • Psychotext 9 Nov 2017 19:13:45 62,018 posts
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    Yup.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 11 Nov 2017 11:44:45 4,717 posts
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    Labour's anti-semitism rides again.
    Read the replies to see the wider issue
    https://twitter.com/owenjones84/status/929311337213321217
  • H1ggyLTD 11 Nov 2017 12:05:22 7,730 posts
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    Have you ever asked yourself why the vast majority of your political venom is aimed at the left and not the right?
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 11 Nov 2017 12:16:46 4,717 posts
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    Personally I expect better of the left and would hold them to a higher standard. I think, "you're supposed to be the good guys so stop trying to excuse racism and sexism".

    Same for left wing nepotism, expenses fiddling, and spreading fake news.

    Obviously for a lot of people the national discourse is directed by a broadly right wing press but that doesn't exempt the left from legit criticism.

    "It's ok if our side does it" or letting things slide because we're "the good guys" are stupid opinions held by valueless morons.
  • H1ggyLTD 11 Nov 2017 12:17:48 7,730 posts
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    All that is well and good if you're holding both sides to account.

    But you only ever seem to post about Labour.
  • Blurp 11 Nov 2017 12:18:40 1,042 posts
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    Because he votes Tory, I assume?
  • Mfolf 11 Nov 2017 12:22:16 1,426 posts
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    H1ggyLTD wrote:
    Have you ever asked yourself why the vast majority of your political venom is aimed at the left and not the right?
    Have you ever asked yourself why you are incapable of seeing any flaws in your Ďsideí?
  • Mfolf 11 Nov 2017 12:24:28 1,426 posts
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    I lean left. Would rather cut off a testicle than ever vote Tory. Which is why I hold them to a higher standard and expect more. Tories are cunts. Tory voters are cunts. I really canít have my opinion lowered at this stage. But I can and frequently do have my opinion lowered when it comes to my party, and that isnít something Iím happy about. Your immaturity and inability to see this is what makes you a trumpeter.

    Edited by Mfolf at 12:26:47 11-11-2017
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 11 Nov 2017 12:25:08 4,717 posts
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    This year four Labour county and parish councillors and Green in the general election.

    I just believe that if you're going to claim the moral high ground it's important to live up to it and call out those who fall so far short.

    Plus it's no secret how bad the Tories so the value is in discussing the more awkward truths some people want brushed under the carpet
  • H1ggyLTD 11 Nov 2017 12:42:52 7,730 posts
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    And a return to the centre would see a return to a higher moral compass...right?

    Edited by H1ggyLTD at 12:43:10 11-11-2017

    Edited by H1ggyLTD at 12:44:19 11-11-2017
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 11 Nov 2017 12:47:38 4,717 posts
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    H1ggyLTD wrote:
    And a return to the centre would see a return to a higher moral compass...right?

    Edited by H1ggyLTD at 12:43:10 11-11-2017
    That's not what we're talking about right here. I'm saying the left should confront its own prejudices and not look the other way by telling itself it is Good. Whereas you appear to be screaming the opposite by deflecting and trying to change the subject.

    If you think being a racist or bigot is fine if you're otherwise on the good side then that's up to you but I wouldn't want Jared O'Mara or Kelvin Hopkins or someone who blames the worlds ills on 'the Jews' representing me.
  • H1ggyLTD 11 Nov 2017 12:50:33 7,730 posts
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    But you were cool with Blair.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 11 Nov 2017 12:53:07 4,717 posts
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    In two opportunities to vote for his government I chose not to.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 11 Nov 2017 12:57:13 4,717 posts
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    That's fake news, I didn't vote for Brown in 2010 either so that's three elections I didn't vote New labour
  • Mfolf 11 Nov 2017 13:17:30 1,426 posts
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    H1ggyLTD wrote:
    And a return to the centre would see a return to a higher moral compass...right?

    Edited by H1ggyLTD at 12:43:10 11-11-2017
    You literally have nothing to actually say donít you? Itís just harping on about the centre as if that strengthens your side. If we were in the states you would be a trumpster.
  • thelzdking 11 Nov 2017 13:21:20 6,357 posts
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    What's your predicted grade in your Politics A-
    Level user H1ggy?
  • Mfolf 11 Nov 2017 13:37:26 1,426 posts
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    A-level LOL. Even a levels move beyond left and right.
  • ResidentKnievel 11 Nov 2017 13:42:45 7,144 posts
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    Higgy, why is holding Labour to a high standard such an uncomfortable position for you?

    You don't sacrifice your values by wanting to root out bigotry, don't go all Rotherham Labour councillor on us.
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