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  • disusedgenius 17 Mar 2017 07:51:11 8,067 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    Admittedly that'd be mainly because of a disastrous opposition and that the government has other bigger problems to fuck it.
    Well, it's more that everyone else does it and is under investigation too. It's not that long since the Lib Dems got fined for something similar.
  • challenge_hanukkah 17 Mar 2017 07:59:25 4,395 posts
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    We've just got to believe guys.

    Look what happened when Peter said he didn't believe in fairies. Tink nearly died.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Mar 2017 10:04:37 3,460 posts
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    Fans of ControlledChaos should follow the children's author and poet Michael Rosen on Twitter. He's a bit like one of those old Japanese soldiers they used to find on some remote island who didn't know that the war was over only with Corbyn devotion instead of imperial militarism
  • Dougs 17 Mar 2017 11:18:30 81,992 posts
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    Hahaha, Osborne appointed editor of The Standard
  • Dougs 17 Mar 2017 11:19:20 81,992 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    Fans of ControlledChaos should follow the children's author and poet Michael Rosen on Twitter. He's a bit like one of those old Japanese soldiers they used to find on some remote island who didn't know that the war was over only with Corbyn devotion instead of imperial militarism
    Yes, I'm a big fan of his work. But he's more than a little blinkered when it comes to Corbyn...
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Mar 2017 11:29:46 3,460 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    Hahaha, Osborne appointed editor of The Standard
    Incredible trolling from Lebedev

    and he gets to have it both ways since half my most outraged at everything left wing protest friends are sharing the article about it from The Independent which he also owns
  • Armoured_Bear 17 Mar 2017 11:43:12 19,810 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    Hahaha, Osborne appointed editor of The Standard
    It beggars belief.
  • MrTomFTW Best Moderator, 2016 17 Mar 2017 11:51:15 46,631 posts
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    https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/842697323654397952

    It is fair to describe Downing Street spokesman as speechless when asked about @George_Osborne editing Evening Standard in morning lobby

    The official Number 10 quote on George Osborne: "You'll be able to tell that I'm unaware of this."
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Mar 2017 12:01:09 3,460 posts
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    Staying on as an MP too

    Has he just discovered MLG videos?
  • Dougs 17 Mar 2017 12:09:42 81,992 posts
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    I am particularly enjoying this guy's Twitter:

    https://twitter.com/GeorgeOsborn
  • DukeSilver 17 Mar 2017 12:12:41 2,107 posts
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    https://twitter.com/Ed_Miliband/status/842705898187472897
  • elstoof 17 Mar 2017 12:30:40 17,989 posts
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    When Michael Rosen announced he was contributing to Poets for Corbyn, a book of poems about Jeremy Corbyn, I thought to myself; that's it, he's going to lead the country now
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Mar 2017 12:49:34 3,460 posts
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    Ed M has been sassy as fuck recently, has James Blunt taken over his account?
  • Fourfoldroot 17 Mar 2017 13:53:02 2,299 posts
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    Can anybody explain to me why that Sturgeon thing wants to press for a Scottish referendum before the Brexit negotiations are over? It makes no sense to ask the Scottish people (yet again) to make a choice without knowing what they are choosing between.

    Best I can make out is she wants Scotland to vote before on the off chance, knowing she can also push for a vote afterwards given the "altered situation".

    I'd be sad, but have no fundamental problem with Scotland leaving if they wished, but this smacks of disgusting politicking by a disgusting excuse for a human being. Doesn't care what damage she does as long as she secures her career and place in history.
  • elstoof 17 Mar 2017 13:55:13 17,989 posts
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    "that Sturgeon thing"
  • RyanDS 17 Mar 2017 13:56:30 11,558 posts
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    Fourfoldroot wrote:
    Can anybody explain to me why that Sturgeon thing wants to press for a Scottish referendum before the Brexit negotiations are over? It makes no sense to ask the Scottish people (yet again) to make a choice without knowing what they are choosing between.

    Best I can make out is she wants Scotland to vote before on the off chance, knowing she can also push for a vote afterwards given the "altered situation".

    I'd be sad, but have no fundamental problem with Scotland leaving if they wished, but this smacks of disgusting politicking by a disgusting excuse for a human being. Doesn't care what damage she does as long as she secures her career and place in history.
    Are you talking About May and pushing ahead with Brexit here?
  • elstoof 17 Mar 2017 13:57:28 17,989 posts
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    What the Scottish parliament have essentially done is create a safeguard in the negotiations because the proposed referendum is dependent on the shape of any Brexit deal. Parliament don't seem to want one, they've turned down the offer of one three times now
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Mar 2017 14:03:07 3,460 posts
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    It's win-win for the SNP

    Get the referendum = in a good position to win it and achieve independence

    Don't get the referendum = get to look like heroes fighting for Scotland against the evil Tories and evil London and win shitloads of votes in every election for the next decade
  • Psychotext 17 Mar 2017 14:19:51 61,373 posts
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    It amazes me how few people bothered to read what Sturgeon said in the first place. The referendum was to be timed for when we knew what the deal was going to be for Brexit.

    All I've heard for days is THE SCOTTISH PEOPLE CAN'T DECIDE WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE DECIDING. Which, I mean yeah... Brexitlol.
  • elstoof 17 Mar 2017 14:22:07 17,989 posts
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    Fancy that, the public getting a decision on Brexit once there's some facts to form a decision. No thanks, lets just charge on with meaningless sound bites and platitudes shall we? Stick a Union flag behind the PM whenever she's speaking on camera, that'll placate the masses
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Mar 2017 14:32:49 3,460 posts
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    It'll be interesting to see what the unionist campaign looks like this time now there's no Scottish Labour Party.

    I mean, Ruth Davidson is a very likeable and popular politician up there but the Tories from south of the border are much less effective communicators than they were under Cameron.

    English Labour probably won't be much help either given Jezza even polls behind May in Scotland.
  • DaM 17 Mar 2017 15:23:04 16,639 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    It'll be interesting to see what the unionist campaign looks like this time now there's no Scottish Labour Party.

    I mean, Ruth Davidson is a very likeable and popular politician up there but the Tories from south of the border are much less effective communicators than they were under Cameron.

    English Labour probably won't be much help either given Jezza even polls behind May in Scotland.
    And much of the "liberal elite" down south will now see that it's a better deal than Brexit!

    As for timing, there is the fact that after Brexit, the 200k or so EU nationals in Scotland are unlikely to be able to vote in a referendum (they did at the last one). It's not unfair to assume they would probably be more inclined to vote for Yes this time round.
  • Jono62 17 Mar 2017 16:29:56 17,659 posts
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    https://www.conservatives.com/-/media/Clarissa/main-graphic.ashx?la=en&hash=2FF8139704890C1BEE86ABF555DB20C2DE16A7A6
  • Psychotext 17 Mar 2017 16:32:28 61,373 posts
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    lol, outward looking. Sure.

    Edit - Though they could be looking outward at all those filthy goddamn migrants!

    Edited by Psychotext at 16:35:01 17-03-2017
  • elstoof 17 Mar 2017 16:49:47 17,989 posts
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    Find it hard to take a Tory seriously when they claim success is to be based on merit rather than privilege
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Mar 2017 17:02:54 3,460 posts
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    I think it's as much the May crowd sticking two fingers up at Cameron public school toffs as anything
  • elstoof 17 Mar 2017 17:08:25 17,989 posts
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    Real People like Jacob Rees-Mogg
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 17 Mar 2017 17:10:33 3,460 posts
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    We dodged a bullet when Tory backbenchers threatened to removed the Speaker earlier in the year - Rees-Mogg was favourite to replace him
  • LittleSparra 17 Mar 2017 17:19:01 6,215 posts
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    Hey wow Tories, what agreeable statements you make!

    Honestly, reverse them and who would agree but the bitterest of bastards?
  • GoatApocalypse 17 Mar 2017 17:35:30 2,998 posts
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    I can't stand Rees Mogg but I can imagine he'd be an excellent Speaker.
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