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  • Deleted user 5 February 2013 20:08:57
    Are we now talking about identical twins? I so, I'm trying to be liberal here...but ew.
  • Tom_Servo 5 Feb 2013 22:01:41 18,079 posts
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    More Tories voted against the Bill than for (from the BBC):

    The Commons voted in favour of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill, by 400 to 175, a majority of 225, at the end of a full day's debate on the bill.

    Early voting lists show that 136 Conservatives opposed the bill.

    Of the remaining Conservative MPs, 127 were in favour, 35 did not vote, and five registered an abstention by voting both in favour and against.
  • Psychotext 5 Feb 2013 22:43:17 62,020 posts
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    So ridiculously out of touch.
  • Deleted user 5 February 2013 23:48:25
    darkmorgado wrote:
    I'm not certain about the absolute specifics, but I do know it is more difficult to dissolve a partnership than it is to divorce a marriage. I believe that adultery is not grounds for disollution, for example.

    Beyond that, language has power.
    It is not more difficult. Adultery is not a ground because it is a specific legal term involving heterosexual sex. But it would be accepted under the unreasonable behaviour ground. Which again makes it identical to divorce. This is 100% about semantics. Not that I'm dismissing its importance, it is just an odd issue for Cameron to bet his hat on.
  • disusedgenius 6 Feb 2013 00:07:17 8,532 posts
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    Was it part of the Lib Dem deal? Besides that I guess he wanted to try to shake off the old 'nasty party' image. Which went really, really well after all.

    Plus, who knows, maybe he actually believes some of what he says...
  • spamdangled 6 Feb 2013 00:13:03 30,982 posts
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    Nope, it actually was in the equality document that the Tories published prior to the election ( though to be fair they said they would discuss the issue, not necessarily legislate). It's something the Lib Dems have always been in favour of, and it just feels like the next logical step after civil partnerships.

    I do wonder about Cameron's motives for pushing it though.

    Regardless, I look forward to it getting on the statute books now and finally booking the wedding!
  • Khanivor 6 Feb 2013 00:21:42 43,369 posts
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    It's a bad time to be an old bigoted cunt.
  • spamdangled 6 Feb 2013 12:29:05 30,982 posts
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    Something. PMQs just made me laugh:

    "Can the Prime Minister confirm that Atos Healthcare have now declared Richard III as fit for work?"
  • Psychotext 6 Feb 2013 12:30:39 62,020 posts
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    :D
  • Deleted user 6 February 2013 12:40:55
    hahah
  • senso-ji 6 Feb 2013 17:54:51 8,074 posts
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    Nigel Farage an 'anti-women, stalinist Dictator' according to UKIP MEP

    Can't say those accusations surprise me.
  • FWB 6 Feb 2013 17:58:10 54,021 posts
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    If one looks like a anus, smells like a anus and spouts shit, then one is probably a member of UKIP.

    Edited by FWB at 18:01:03 06-02-2013
  • Moot_Point 7 Feb 2013 14:35:36 5,530 posts
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    Sorry wrong thread.

    Edited by Moot_Point at 14:59:33 07-02-2013
  • Moot_Point 15 Feb 2013 18:22:18 5,530 posts
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    Cabinet minister: Gay couples cannot provide safe environment for children


    Uhh oh.
  • Psychotext 15 Feb 2013 19:54:44 62,020 posts
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    Yeah... saw that earlier. Ridiculous.

    Also used the "some of my best friends are gay" line for good measure. Utter cunt.
  • spamdangled 15 Feb 2013 19:58:12 30,982 posts
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    Moot_Point wrote:
    Cabinet minister: Gay couples cannot provide safe environment for children


    Uhh oh.
    Just came here to post that myself.

    Nice to see that even in the 21st century, a Tory can still hold such bigoted views.

    He gains extra points for using the "I'm not homophobic, some of my best friends are gay" defense.
  • DaM 15 Feb 2013 19:59:50 16,846 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Yeah... saw that earlier. Ridiculous.

    Also used the "some of my best friends are gay" line for good measure. Utter cunt.
    Actually what he said was he had "people in my life who are important to me who are gay".

    Which as a Tory MP probably means he has a cellar where he keeps rent boys.
  • Deleted user 15 February 2013 20:02:01
    DaM wrote:
    Psychotext wrote:
    Yeah... saw that earlier. Ridiculous.

    Also used the "some of my best friends are gay" line for good measure. Utter cunt.
    Actually what he said was he had "people in my life who are important to me who are gay".

    Which as a Tory MP probably means he has a cellar where he keeps rent boys.
    As a Welshman it probably means the flock of sheep outside his window.
  • senso-ji 17 Feb 2013 12:42:25 8,074 posts
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    Spoken by a man who's clearly done no hard work in his life
  • disusedgenius 17 Feb 2013 12:49:18 8,532 posts
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    It also seems to miss the fact that she currently does shelf-stacking. Just, you know, for money.
  • Inertia 17 Feb 2013 12:57:19 694 posts
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    He's so misunderstood her argument you have to question his ability comprehend anything.

    Listen up Duncan. She says it's unfair for a multi-million pound company to exploit her misfortune by making her work, for their profit, while being paid by the taxpayer. Also Duncan she is working below the minimum wage so if that is the case the minimum wage doesn't apply to the unemployed. You are now beneath the law. Also just as a side note how much does a degree cost nowadays? It would seem easier just to go straight into the career of shelf-stacking then wouldn't it if they are both equal and worthy career choices.

    But I appreciate your input Duncan and congratulate you from working your way out of such childhood poverty to become a cabinet minister.
  • MrTomFTW Best Moderator, 2016 17 Feb 2013 13:23:44 47,199 posts
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    At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the Tories used "Common People" as their next campaign theme.
  • Deleted user 20 February 2013 17:26:59
    That's the thing that really galls me about it all: IDS comes out defending the 'dignity' of menial labour (PLU syndrome applies, naturally), but it's not actually about the job at hand - it's the fact the company concerned gets free employees, the government gets to float warped stats, and the employee concerned is expected to grovel with delight at the fact they're 'employed' and not even paid the paltry wages normally given to such tasks. Bullshit.
  • Tom_Servo 24 Feb 2013 17:35:05 18,079 posts
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    Lib Dems deny Nick Clegg knew of Lord Rennard claims (this morning)

    BBCBreaking: Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg to admit he knew of general concerns about Lord Rennard, the BBC understands (just now)

    Could Clegg go over this, then
  • Deleted user 24 February 2013 17:38:55
    I'm personally praying Osborne goes.
  • Tom_Servo 24 Feb 2013 18:16:00 18,079 posts
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    Unfortunately, Osborne seems a bit on the stubborn side. It feels like no matter what news we receive he'll still say we need to dig in and keep on going with his austerity policies.
  • Dougs 1 Mar 2013 07:44:10 83,762 posts
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    UKIP 2nd in the Eastleigh by election. That depresses me no end. Shoeing for Cameron though, so not all bad!
  • spamdangled 1 Mar 2013 08:18:48 30,982 posts
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    It's annoying. I was hoping the Lib Dems would lose and that Clegg's leadership would be challenged over it.

    /sigh
  • chopsen 1 Mar 2013 08:44:43 19,941 posts
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    A fine party member you are.
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