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  • Psychotext 3 Jan 2013 15:38:07 54,391 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    How are you stopping them using the money to buy this food anyway?
    Have a small child follow them around shouting "fatty fat fat fat" whenever they look like buying unhealthy food.
  • mcmonkeyplc 3 Jan 2013 15:38:31 39,467 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    So you give them money for most things but only let them eat unhealthy food that they buy with food stamps paid for through exercise?

    How are you stopping them using the money to buy this food anyway?
    The same way you stop off licenses from selling alcohol to under age kids....

    Not effectively.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Deleted user 3 January 2013 15:39:16
    And it would be easy to enforce. Just have fatty patrols (can be on foot, the fatties won't waddle away too fast) that capture them then interrogate them.

    Not like they can hide it.
  • LeoliansBro 3 Jan 2013 15:39:54 44,505 posts
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    Why not tie VAT to calories divided by weight?

    Genuinely? I'm sure there's a good reason for it being a stupid idea, but it would make unhealthy foods more expensive and counterbalance NHS costs for eating them with increased government revenues from buying them.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • mcmonkeyplc 3 Jan 2013 15:41:51 39,467 posts
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    How would you police that?

    It's a good idea in principle but I have no idea how it would work. Smart cards with your weight on it?

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Psychotext 3 Jan 2013 15:45:55 54,391 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    Why not tie VAT to calories divided by weight?
    I can only imagine how much kendal mintcake would suddenly cost. :(

    Not to mention golden syrup, sugar or honey!
  • LeoliansBro 3 Jan 2013 15:47:54 44,505 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    How would you police that?

    It's a good idea in principle but I have no idea how it would work. Smart cards with your weight on it?
    Not your weight you wally, the weight of the food.

    Lettuce 100g, calories 4. VAT level 1, no VAT

    Cream 100g, calories 275, VAT level 5, 20% VAT.

    Basically treat high-calorie food as a luxury.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • DaM 3 Jan 2013 15:50:35 13,329 posts
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    VAT's already on takeaway/restaurant food isn't it?
  • LeoliansBro 3 Jan 2013 15:52:28 44,505 posts
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    Yes, I'm on about applying it to supermarket shopping.

    Hell, if you want to get all Daily Mail and 'poor people denied life's comforts' about it, apply it to cooked food / restaurant food as well and hit back with 'we've made it affordable for many more people to enjoy themselves by going out to dinner once in a while'. Salads will be well cheap.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • mcmonkeyplc 3 Jan 2013 15:55:16 39,467 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    How would you police that?

    It's a good idea in principle but I have no idea how it would work. Smart cards with your weight on it?
    Not your weight you wally, the weight of the food.

    Lettuce 100g, calories 4. VAT level 1, no VAT

    Cream 100g, calories 275, VAT level 5, 20% VAT.

    Basically treat high-calorie food as a luxury.
    See Denmark.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • LeoliansBro 3 Jan 2013 15:55:55 44,505 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    LeoliansBro wrote:
    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    How would you police that?

    It's a good idea in principle but I have no idea how it would work. Smart cards with your weight on it?
    Not your weight you wally, the weight of the food.

    Lettuce 100g, calories 4. VAT level 1, no VAT

    Cream 100g, calories 275, VAT level 5, 20% VAT.

    Basically treat high-calorie food as a luxury.
    See Denmark.
    What they thought of this first?

    Fuck that noise then. Rubbish idea.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • mcmonkeyplc 3 Jan 2013 15:57:57 39,467 posts
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    Denmark: Fat Chance

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Deleted user 3 January 2013 16:07:30
    Fat isn't the only problem, salt and sugar are too.
  • LeoliansBro 3 Jan 2013 16:08:32 44,505 posts
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    Well, that's a pretty comprehensive smackdown on my idea. I did think there'd be a good reason.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • mcmonkeyplc 3 Jan 2013 16:11:19 39,467 posts
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    I reckon it can be done but it needs to be far more selective. Start with fast foods and frozen foods.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Psychotext 3 Jan 2013 16:12:02 54,391 posts
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    That's stupid. Frozen food isn't automatically unhealthy food.
  • LeoliansBro 3 Jan 2013 16:14:40 44,505 posts
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    Base it on calories rather than saturated fats and have it far lower than the level Denmark went with?

    Although with taxes there'll always be a victim in the end.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • LeoliansBro 3 Jan 2013 16:16:18 44,505 posts
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    Mainly it punishes healthy, active people. How skewed is that?

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • Deleted user 3 January 2013 16:18:40
    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    I reckon it can be done but it needs to be far more selective. Start with fast foods and frozen foods.
    Frozen peas are now worse than cake.
  • RichieTenenbaum 3 Jan 2013 16:19:48 2,223 posts
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    Has anyone read Jilted Generation. It's about how young people have basically been fucked up the arse. It's really good. Recommend it.
  • mcmonkeyplc 3 Jan 2013 16:20:21 39,467 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    That's stupid. Frozen food isn't automatically unhealthy food.
    Fatty Frozen food. I didn't think I needed to spell that out! :)

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Deleted user 3 January 2013 16:20:57
    I think you meant to post that in the paedogeddon thread.
  • LeoliansBro 3 Jan 2013 16:21:22 44,505 posts
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    RichieTenenbaum wrote:
    Has anyone read Jilted Generation. It's about how young people have basically been fucked up the arse. It's really good. Recommend it.
    I think I've seen a couple of films on that topic. Didn't seen to have a lot to do with politics but I'll rewatch them again to be sure :)

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • Deleted user 3 January 2013 16:21:51
    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    Psychotext wrote:
    That's stupid. Frozen food isn't automatically unhealthy food.
    Fatty Frozen food. I didn't think I needed to spell that out! :)
    Why does it being frozen matter? It's like the warm pie thing again.
  • LeoliansBro 3 Jan 2013 16:28:09 44,505 posts
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    Don't think anyone's saying that. It's just a cash incentive, right here right now, to choose a healthier option.

    And anyway as noted above it's stupid for all sorts of other reasons.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • spamdangled 4 Jan 2013 06:53:14 27,410 posts
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    The Sun decides to play Foreign Diplomat

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  • Psychotext 4 Jan 2013 08:48:35 54,391 posts
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    Utterly pointless. Given she's just using the whole affair to deflect attention from how fucked Argentina is, it's better to give it as little focus as possible.
  • LeoliansBro 4 Jan 2013 08:53:48 44,505 posts
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    More than pointless. Inflammatory, counterproductive and plays into Argentinian hands by escalating the issue and lending weight to it.

    Argentina are only doing it to distract the public from the shambles their Government is making of policy - witness the renationalisation of their major oil company last year, which effectively closed the door to any and all foreign investment.

    And if they're keen to raise the subject of colonialism and who has right to the land, isn't it about time they also handed back Argentina to the original indigenous tribes the Spanish took it from?

    Edit: good wine though.

    Edited by LeoliansBro at 08:54:29 04-01-2013

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

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