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  • Deleted user 4 March 2013 13:19:35
    Bit odd to suggest that City will never reach their potential with Mancini next season considering they won the league last year.

    He probably won't still be there anyway, but either way I expect City to be a considerable force next season. You'd be crazy to think otherwise.
  • Ultrasoundwave 4 Mar 2013 13:25:58 3,930 posts
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    Its difficult to put your finger on whats gone wrong at City.

    Mancini keeps blaming the players, individually and collectively, which i personally think is quite poor management.

    I am also continually baffled by the fact that Aguero and Tevez have proven in the past to be an absolutely lethal partnership, yet Mancini does everything he can to avoid playing them together.

    At the end of the day, if Mourinho is coming back to the Premiership this summer and Abramovich is too stubborn to have him back, there's only one other place he's going......
  • THFourteen 4 Mar 2013 13:27:30 37,329 posts
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    surely the "potential" of a team with 2-3 world class players in each position should be more than to drop out of the CL every year in the group stages, and scrape the league on goal difference?
  • thedaveeyres 4 Mar 2013 13:27:50 12,189 posts
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    I can't help but think that City won the league in spite of, rather than because of Mancini. With the quality and depth of their squad it should never have come down to the last game of the season.
  • faux-C 4 Mar 2013 13:29:21 10,364 posts
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    Ultrasoundwave wrote:
    Its difficult to put your finger on whats gone wrong at City.

    Mancini keeps blaming the players, individually and collectively, which i personally think is quite poor management.

    I am also continually baffled by the fact that Aguero and Tevez have proven in the past to be an absolutely lethal partnership, yet Mancini does everything he can to avoid playing them together.

    At the end of the day, if Mourinho is coming back to the Premiership this summer and Abramovich is too stubborn to have him back, there's only one other place he's going......
    I don't think it's that complicated tbh. They scraped the league last season and then went backwards in the summer transfer window. They're not that far away from the top, despite the points gap. The same group of players and mamager could easily win the league next year, with a fair wind.
  • beastmaster 4 Mar 2013 13:29:52 13,301 posts
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    Ultrasoundwave wrote:

    I am also continually baffled by the fact that Aguero and Tevez have proven in the past to be an absolutely lethal partnership, yet Mancini does everything he can to avoid playing them together.
    I take it this partnership was there before he took over? Could be an ego thing in that he wants to find his own lethal partnership and therefore cement his management credentials.

    /clutching at straws

    Edited by beastmaster at 13:30:11 04-03-2013
  • ElNuevo9 4 Mar 2013 13:30:15 13,943 posts
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    I'm sorry, City could quite easily go out and get Mourinho, a definite upgrade. With the resources available to them and the players that they've acquired, they really shouldn't be 12 points behind United.

    I've said it before, but if Mourinho, Ferguson and even Wenger had been in charge this season and last, they'd have fucking pissed the league.

    Edited by ElNino9 at 13:31:05 04-03-2013
  • Deleted user 4 March 2013 13:50:43
    So fine, even more evidence that Spurs are far more than a couple of players away from finishing above City next season.
  • roz123 4 Mar 2013 13:56:50 7,112 posts
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    Mikel Silvestre has a terrible debut in the MLS
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxxwia_le-premier-match-catastrophique-de-silvestre-en-mls_sport?start=NaN#.UTSmn1eSlUM

    Player in Argentina gets smacked around the chops by a policeman, goes down like only a footballer would whilst his teammates protest to the ref
    http://youtu.be/lGzX8OOZS6U
  • Deleted user 4 March 2013 14:01:34
    Feel a touch sorry for Silvestre there. First goal was the goalie's fault 100%. It was passed back for him to boot it. Totally fair enough defending. Second one he did badly but the CBs should have been busing a gut to get back. Third was his fault yes.
  • THFourteen 4 Mar 2013 14:01:49 37,329 posts
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    15 points behind.
  • Ultrasoundwave 4 Mar 2013 14:03:38 3,930 posts
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    Bottom line is that if City get Mourinho, next season will be very interesting.....
  • thedaveeyres 4 Mar 2013 14:06:39 12,189 posts
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    David Moyes should sue you for including him in the same sentence as Allardyce and Pulis. :)
  • ElNuevo9 4 Mar 2013 14:08:07 13,943 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    15 points behind.
    12 really. They're playing Villa tonight, after all!
  • Commander-Keen 4 Mar 2013 14:08:09 903 posts
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    thedaveeyres wrote:
    I can't help but think that City won the league in spite of, rather than because of Mancini.
    Yeah - this. Chequebook manager. I've never really taken to the man - seems like a deeply unlike-able character - so god only knows what his players make of him. Without the money, he'd probably be another Roy Keane.
  • Deleted user 4 March 2013 14:14:16
    I think Mancini's failings are in his handling of players. He's essentially a real cunt it seems. I do think he's a good tactician though.
  • Deleted user 4 March 2013 14:21:02
    I think he's bad at European tactics :)

    Last season people were extremely critical of him for making "defensive" substitutions. He would typically take off a striker and bring on Barry or De Jong in a game they weren't winning, but as the season went on it showed increasing dividends, and people stopped taking the piss for it.

    I don't think his City have ever shown much passion or fight tbh. Their victories are typically tactical ones.
  • Ultrasoundwave 4 Mar 2013 14:21:36 3,930 posts
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    ElNino9 wrote:
    THFourteen wrote:
    15 points behind.
    12 really. They're playing Villa tonight, after all!
    Would anyone be genuinely shocked if Villa won (or took a point) tonight though?

    If Benteke shows up and Mancini does a teamtalk where he tells each player individually just how shit he is......who knows?
  • thedaveeyres 4 Mar 2013 14:33:01 12,189 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    I think he's bad at European tactics :)

    Last season people were extremely critical of him for making "defensive" substitutions. He would typically take off a striker and bring on Barry or De Jong in a game they weren't winning, but as the season went on it showed increasing dividends, and people stopped taking the piss for it.

    I don't think his City have ever shown much passion or fight tbh. Their victories are typically tactical ones.
    The lack of passion and fight could also be attributed to the entire squad being parachuted in in only 3 transfer windows. Chelsea did the same but they were built on a core of players you could be sure would show some fight week in/week out: Terry, Lampard etc. Also Arsenal when AW took over.
  • Ultrasoundwave 4 Mar 2013 14:37:28 3,930 posts
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    thedaveeyres wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    I think he's bad at European tactics :)

    Last season people were extremely critical of him for making "defensive" substitutions. He would typically take off a striker and bring on Barry or De Jong in a game they weren't winning, but as the season went on it showed increasing dividends, and people stopped taking the piss for it.

    I don't think his City have ever shown much passion or fight tbh. Their victories are typically tactical ones.
    The lack of passion and fight could also be attributed to the entire squad being parachuted in in only 3 transfer windows. Chelsea did the same but they were built on a core of players you could be sure would show some fight week in/week out: Terry, Lampard etc. Also Arsenal when AW took over.
    To be fair though, City also have that core of players who fight week in/week out IMO - Chelsea had Cech, Terry, Lampard and Drogba, City have Hart, Kompany, Yaya Toure and Aguero.
  • Deleted user 4 March 2013 14:38:55
    Ultrasoundwave wrote:
    Bottom line is that if City get Mourinho, next season will be very interesting.....
    By very interesting you mean 'more interesting than a league that's over in early March, and the same teams in the same positions you'd roughly expect', then that's not too hard ;)
  • thedaveeyres 4 Mar 2013 14:43:20 12,189 posts
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    Terry, as much as I despise him, went from Chelsea's youth team to club captain, with an absolutely monstrous will to win. City have no-one comparable to that, Hart is the closest but he's a goalie... I'd rather have my 'guts' players in central defence.
  • mcmonkeyplc 4 Mar 2013 14:44:25 39,936 posts
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    It's not over yet you bunch of jinxing bumders!
  • oceanmotion 4 Mar 2013 14:44:43 16,454 posts
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    Madrid are training at Man City for the game tomorrow. Mourinho can check out his new digs.
  • The-Bodybuilder 4 Mar 2013 15:03:28 15,066 posts
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    Ultrasoundwave wrote:
    At the end of the day, if Mourinho is coming back to the Premiership this summer and Abramovich is too stubborn to have him back, there's only one other place he's going......
    PSG?
  • Deleted user 4 March 2013 15:05:09
    I thought everyone was convinced United was Mourinho's next stop?
  • thedaveeyres 4 Mar 2013 15:08:36 12,189 posts
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    Moyes for Utd I reckon.
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