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  • Mr_Sleep 28 Feb 2013 11:33:29 16,221 posts
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    It's a real and true opinion of some people. Like AVB did nothing and RDM won the whole thing.

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • kalel 28 Feb 2013 11:36:11 83,839 posts
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    To be fair I doubt AVB could have turned round the Napoli tie. John Terry's management was magnificent in that second leg.
  • captbirdseye 28 Feb 2013 11:45:33 4,336 posts
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    My club is dying a slow death at the hands of a dictator who can do whatever he wants. He has set an example now that others can follow.

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  • roz123 28 Feb 2013 11:49:04 7,107 posts
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    We should praise AVB for scraping through a weak group and then getting battered by Napoli? I think I have heard it all :lol:
  • kalel 28 Feb 2013 11:50:53 83,839 posts
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    It's more than Di Matteo achieved this season.
  • RedSparrows 28 Feb 2013 12:02:00 20,747 posts
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    roz123 wrote:
    We should praise AVB for scraping through a weak group and then getting battered by Napoli? I think I have heard it all :lol:
    Considering his Spurs team are higher than Chelsea, perhaps you shouldn't be lolling.
  • kalel 28 Feb 2013 12:14:31 83,839 posts
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    AVB did a pretty bad job at Chelsea in all fairness. RA is largely to blame for his failure, in that he didn't give him the freedom or support needed to implement his philosophy immediately, but naivety and obstinacy on AVB's part meant that he didn't buy himself time to do it in the long term.

    It has worked out extraordinarily well for Spurs though. We have managed to get ourselves a "next big thing" manager that we would have had no hope of signing had Chelsea not damaged his reputation, and we get a more learned, humble and patient version into the bargain.
  • roz123 28 Feb 2013 12:17:46 7,107 posts
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    This is all true but we were looking good under Di Matteo this season. Sticking with Torres as our only striker was a huge mistake but even so we were playing some nice attacking football with a new group of players and only a few points off the top spot. It was a vast improvement on last season under AVB, who is a decent manager but came to us at the wrong time.
  • mcmonkeyplc 28 Feb 2013 12:46:20 38,857 posts
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    There's never a right time to manage Chelsea.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • thedaveeyres 28 Feb 2013 12:49:00 9,708 posts
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    Rafa Benitez has a better win percentage at Chelsea than AVB has at Tottenham. Just thought I'd throw it out there. :)

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  • kalel 28 Feb 2013 12:54:05 83,839 posts
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    Not in the PL.
  • kalel 28 Feb 2013 13:01:19 83,839 posts
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    Interestingly comments from Van der Vaart this week suggest that AVB basically ditched him, as opposed to the story about him leaving to save his marriage. Quite interesting. I wonder how things might have progressed at Chelsea if he'd have been allowed to do the same there.
  • oceanmotion 28 Feb 2013 13:19:13 15,243 posts
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    I dunno, are the Spurs team actually flying or is Bale overcompensating ?

    Chelsea seem to have a nice group of upcoming players and for AVB or any other manager in the future to survive, would have to cut the little gang out and have the backing of the owner. Didn't happen. Perhaps ease the transition of old to new instead so they wouldn't be twats. There is a bunch of players there who are complete undermining cunts and need to be let go.

    Edited by oceanmotion at 13:20:02 28-02-2013
  • Mr_Sleep 28 Feb 2013 13:21:35 16,221 posts
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    roz123 wrote:
    We should praise AVB for scraping through a weak group and then getting battered by Napoli? I think I have heard it all :lol:
    Well, Mancini hasn't managed much better with arguably a better squad.

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • Youthist 28 Feb 2013 13:23:05 9,896 posts
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    Not arguably shirly.

    Think of how stupid the average person is, and realise half of them are stupider than that

  • Deleted user 28 February 2013 13:26:46
    THFourteen wrote:
    Champions League Trophies of AVB vs Di Matteo

    AVB 0
    Di Matteo 1
    They got rid of AVB before the final with his/JTs team.

    People aren't exactly rushing to give Di Matteo a top job are they? Avram Grant was almost as good.
  • kalel 28 Feb 2013 13:28:12 83,839 posts
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    If we're pulling out win ratios, Grant's was incredibly high.
  • nickthegun 28 Feb 2013 13:29:38 55,848 posts
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    Hah. According to the stats from the previous page, only 0.9% worse than mourinho.

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  • LeoliansBro 28 Feb 2013 13:32:41 41,863 posts
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    Surely (obviously) the change in performance is the important conclusion to draw from that list.

    Mourinho the greatest gain. Rafa the greatest fall.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • thedaveeyres 28 Feb 2013 14:02:51 9,708 posts
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    All depends on who you're playing, surely. You don't get a full season at Chelsea often under one manager so the ratios aren't directly comparable.

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  • kalel 28 Feb 2013 14:34:42 83,839 posts
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    Having now heard the full Benitez rant, I have to say I'n in pretty much total agreement with every word he said. The club set him up to fail and the fans behaved liked babies. Feel quite sorry for him to be honest.
  • nickthegun 28 Feb 2013 14:36:36 55,848 posts
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    He's only annoyed because 'interim' means he wont get a retirement fund like the rest of them when he gets the chop.

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  • Ultrasoundwave 28 Feb 2013 14:39:50 3,097 posts
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    Fuck. Looks like Krul is out for a month.

    Really hope Elliot can step up.....

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  • SuperCoolEskimo 28 Feb 2013 14:44:37 9,527 posts
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    125 years ago this week, Aston Villa's chairman started the first football league.

    http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2013/02/26/125-years-ago-this-week-a-scottish-draper-from-aston-villa-wrote-a-letter-that-made-history-and-football-as-we-know-it-260201/
  • imamazed 28 Feb 2013 14:50:02 5,450 posts
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    Ultrasoundwave wrote:
    Fuck. Looks like Krul is out for a month.

    Really hope Elliot can step up.....
    A Krul twist of fate
  • Ultrasoundwave 28 Feb 2013 15:03:52 3,097 posts
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    imamazed wrote:
    Ultrasoundwave wrote:
    Fuck. Looks like Krul is out for a month.

    Really hope Elliot can step up.....
    A Krul twist of fate
    Very good.

    Unless you pronounce his name 'Kr-ull' rather than 'Kr-ool'......then it doesnt make sense.

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  • imamazed 28 Feb 2013 15:06:36 5,450 posts
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    Ultrasoundwave wrote:
    imamazed wrote:
    Ultrasoundwave wrote:
    Fuck. Looks like Krul is out for a month.

    Really hope Elliot can step up.....
    A Krul twist of fate
    Very good.

    Unless you pronounce his name 'Kr-ull' rather than 'Kr-ool'......then it doesnt make sense.
    Yeh I'll go for the latter
  • Ultrasoundwave 28 Feb 2013 15:10:51 3,097 posts
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    A good, reasonable choice.

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  • kalel 28 Feb 2013 15:12:37 83,839 posts
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    Ben "better than Bale" Arfa won't be back after all either.
  • Ultrasoundwave 28 Feb 2013 15:16:20 3,097 posts
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    Thats a shame - the sooner he can get back and replace Jonas the better.

    Having Cabaye and Tiote sitting behind a front four of Ben Arfa, Gouffran, Sissoko and Cissť is bonerific.

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