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  • Blotto 23 Jan 2013 17:01:54 2,715 posts
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    @nickthegun

    Fair enough, but I think I've made my point that it was a point that wasn't as cut and dry as "Frankly that's a load of shit". Not having a go or anything, just saying that's why I argued back.
  • nickthegun 23 Jan 2013 17:05:51 58,784 posts
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    Shikasama wrote:
    I'm not really sure why you don't see things like the Webster Ruling used more.
    And, possibly, for a lot of footballers, the remaining wages would be as much as a transfer fee.

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  • ecureuil 23 Jan 2013 17:08:33 76,499 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    Now you've done it...
    Nah, obvious WUM is obvious.

    The numbers

    speak for themselves.

    United-biased but the figures are legit whichever way people try to spin it. United never went from nothing to sugar daddied, the comparison simply doesn't hold up. End of the matter really, wasn't that fun? :D
  • Shikasama 23 Jan 2013 17:11:30 6,605 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    Shikasama wrote:
    I'm not really sure why you don't see things like the Webster Ruling used more.
    And, possibly, for a lot of footballers, the remaining wages would be as much as a transfer fee.
    Would it though? If Michu was on 50k a week and in the last year of his new contract, he'd cost 2.6 million.

    Bear in mind they only have to pay off the rest of their contract outstanding, not the value of their contract.
  • Shikasama 23 Jan 2013 17:13:24 6,605 posts
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    Oh just in case I wasn't clear, I'm talking about clubs giving players the money to buy out their contracts, not really footballers paying it off from their own dime
  • kalel 23 Jan 2013 17:17:17 86,344 posts
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    I was thinking about this with Holtby. We're negotiating with his club to buy him even though he's already signed for the summer, but how much could it possibly be for him to buy out what's left of his contract? It must be next to nothing surely?

    I don't really understand how the Webster rule works, but I get the feeling it's not quite as simple as that.
  • Shikasama 23 Jan 2013 17:19:25 6,605 posts
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    Thats what I thought Kalel but it really does seem that simple -

    http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/254922-the-webster-ruling-article-17-explained/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_ruling

    I wonder if it is a case of fearing a club would take it to court and the player might lose, or be unable to play while the trial was ongoing or something
  • nickthegun 23 Jan 2013 17:20:28 58,784 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    Now you've done it...
    Nah, obvious WUM is obvious.

    The numbers

    speak for themselves.

    United-biased but the figures are legit whichever way people try to spin it. United never went from nothing to sugar daddied, the comparison simply doesn't hold up. End of the matter really, wasn't that fun? :D
    Those figures are so massaged and, frankly, idiotic, they are barely worth commenting on.

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  • nickthegun 23 Jan 2013 17:22:16 58,784 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    I don't really understand how the Webster rule works, but I get the feeling it's not quite as simple as that.
    I get the impression that its not like a bosman when your contracts over, thats that. I think it still has to go to arbitration with a figure calculated and all the mess that entails, so thats probably why.

    If it was a simple as 52 x 20k, here you go, I think everyone would be doing it.

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  • morriss 23 Jan 2013 17:33:24 70,911 posts
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    What are West Ham's chances tonight?
  • reddevil93 23 Jan 2013 17:36:34 11,373 posts
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    To be fair to nick if his argument is "money shouldn't play a part in how successful sports teams are regardless of where it comes from" it's a valid if extremely naive argument.

    It is sad that being a better business can be a lot more fruitful than having passionate fans or excellent youth academies but that is the way things are.

    It's never going to go back to the days of Celtic winning a European Cup with all local lads and that should be accepted and enjoy the sport for what it is.

    Natural progression through the finances of a club being well run should not be frowned upon however and if it weren't for sugar daddies coming in at clubs like City and Chelsea I like to think the entire league would be more competitive and that teams like Spurs and Everton would have been able to maintain more serious sustained challenges. Maybe that is unrealistic of me though.

  • kalel 23 Jan 2013 17:37:52 86,344 posts
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    Who knows. West Ham can be bloody hard to beat as Man U have found out a couple of times this season (at least), but I think Arsenal are due to give someone a kicking, and fear it'll be tonight.

    Is it on Sky?
  • reddevil93 23 Jan 2013 17:39:05 11,373 posts
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    Not on tv

  • kalel 23 Jan 2013 17:40:00 86,344 posts
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    Tits.
  • Shikasama 23 Jan 2013 17:41:40 6,605 posts
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    Are they playing an actual match tonight or is it a treasure hunt with Wenger following a series of bizarre and increasingly convoluted clues leading to Diame, whilst Allardyce tries to squirrel him away.
  • Deckard1 23 Jan 2013 17:42:03 27,156 posts
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    Newcastle tell San Lorenzo to "Get Fucked"
  • kalel 23 Jan 2013 17:44:07 86,344 posts
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    There has been some "ITK" that we tried to trigger Diame's release clause and they simply told us to fuck off, and that we'd need to sue them for him.
  • nickthegun 23 Jan 2013 17:45:56 58,784 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    Who knows. West Ham can be bloody hard to beat as Man U have found out a couple of times this season (at least), but I think Arsenal are due to give someone a kicking, and fear it'll be tonight.

    Is it on Sky?
    Bolton were always arsenals bogey team so west ham could do a job tonight

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  • FWB 23 Jan 2013 17:58:36 43,809 posts
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    Deckard1 wrote:
    Newcastle tell San Lorenzo to "Get Fucked"
    Good. They have a habit of claiming stuff not theirs down there.
  • Shikasama 23 Jan 2013 18:03:21 6,605 posts
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    Oho! Topical.
  • Dougs 23 Jan 2013 18:04:57 66,671 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    Who knows. West Ham can be bloody hard to beat as Man U have found out a couple of times this season (at least), but I think Arsenal are due to give someone a kicking, and fear it'll be tonight.

    Is it on Sky?
    Bolton were always arsenals bogey team so west ham could do a job tonight
    I hate playing BFS's teams. He hates us and always knows how to get at us. We need some kind of response though that's for sure. There's a perfect shit storm brewing. Gutted not to be there.
  • SuperCoolEskimo 23 Jan 2013 18:05:08 9,717 posts
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    @FWB Hehe, very good.

    Edited by SuperCoolEskimo at 18:05:33 23-01-2013
  • Shikasama 23 Jan 2013 18:06:44 6,605 posts
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    Chelsea won't be getting the Earl's Court land for a new stadium then - bastards are building 7500 new houses instead.

    Puts just how much space these things need into perspective for me that number.

    So, how long before Chelsea relocate to Birmingham?

    Edited by Shikasama at 18:07:23 23-01-2013
  • Syrette 23 Jan 2013 18:09:24 43,063 posts
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    Poor Gervinho :D

  • Syrette 23 Jan 2013 18:09:33 43,063 posts
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  • The-Bodybuilder 23 Jan 2013 18:50:46 14,058 posts
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    WTF happened to the thread?
  • Kay 23 Jan 2013 18:53:17 17,761 posts
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    M'Vila officially gone to Rubin Kazan.
  • LeD 23 Jan 2013 18:55:50 6,209 posts
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    Kay wrote:
    M'Vila officially gone to Rubin Kazan.
    Never to be seen again...
  • morriss 23 Jan 2013 18:58:35 70,911 posts
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    Dunno.

    Come on you Irons.
  • morriss 23 Jan 2013 18:59:59 70,911 posts
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    I've got Arse Ham on TV but it's after the Che Swans game. Can't be arsed with that. Would rather it the other way round tbh. Mickey Mouse Cup etc.
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