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  • robc84 13 Jan 2018 19:09:57 12,078 posts
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    Son has been great again today. Superb player.
  • Youthist 13 Jan 2018 19:37:29 12,960 posts
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    FWB wrote:
    And feel for Lookman. No idea what he has to do to play. Totally wasted staying at us.
    Big Sam the Saviour out
  • You-can-call-me-kal 13 Jan 2018 20:25:28 10,047 posts
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    I do like playing Everton.

    Son is so underrated. One of the best players in the league.
  • THFourteen 13 Jan 2018 20:33:56 46,874 posts
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    Better than sodding Sanchez that's for sure

    Mind the gap.
  • Youthist 13 Jan 2018 21:34:18 12,960 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    I do like playing Everton.

    Son is so underrated. One of the best players in the league.
    I can almost guarantee you that he is not one of the best players in the league.
  • GoatApocalypse 13 Jan 2018 21:43:57 3,315 posts
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    Son is fantastic.
  • DakeyrasUK 13 Jan 2018 22:06:25 1,311 posts
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    He is a great player for sure, but one of the best? Is he top 10? Not sure he is. Top 20? Possibly.

    Actually, just checked top scorers. He's tenth, so yeah one of the top players. But surely some non-attacking players come before the tenth best attacking player? For example, De Gea. Also de bruyne is 1 goal back but with more assists and is a better ayer for my eyes.

    In fact isn't Hazard supposed to be much better than how is doing. Only has 6 goals and 2 assists in the league?!

    Edited by DakeyrasUK at 22:07:04 13-01-2018
  • DakeyrasUK 13 Jan 2018 22:14:10 1,311 posts
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    Anyeay other than Youthist above I don't think anyone has a bad word to say.

    He's a bit like Firmino it that regard. Does a great job for the club, butnthe plaudits go to Alli, Kane/Salah, Coutinho - well not that last one any more.
  • Youthist 13 Jan 2018 22:14:51 12,960 posts
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    Son is playing well. But overall over the last couple of years he is both erratic and a bit greedy. But to be fair so was Suarez for his early years at Liverpool then he got good. So maybe he is the new Suarez
  • askew 13 Jan 2018 22:15:23 15,831 posts
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    I'd have him.
  • Dougs 13 Jan 2018 23:18:57 84,253 posts
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    He's reminding me a lot of Pires, with his ability to be in the right place.
  • THFourteen 14 Jan 2018 05:26:58 46,874 posts
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    @DakeyrasUK

    Actually if he’s tenth in the goals chart then he’s barely the tenth best forward, which means there are bound to be other goalkeepers, midfielders and defenders who are better than him in their positions.

    So maybe like top 200.
  • robc84 14 Jan 2018 07:04:50 12,078 posts
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    There is more to it than goals / assist stats though. There is his work rate, dribbling and general influence on games and the team. He's also been very consistent over the last couple of years. Certainly wouldn't describe him as 'erratic'.

    As DakeyrasUK said, Hazard's stats aren't that great in terms of goals / assists, but he he is considered by most one of the best in the league.
  • null 14 Jan 2018 08:35:20 706 posts
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    it's a team game

    Leicester proved that

    why the need to pick out top this or that
  • You-can-call-me-kal 14 Jan 2018 08:57:46 10,047 posts
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    Because teams are made up of individuals and football discussions would be worthless without sometimes discussing them.
  • robc84 14 Jan 2018 09:10:27 12,078 posts
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    Agreed. But they don't necessarily prove a point without wider context.

    I never said they shouldn't be discussed or are irrelevant.
  • DakeyrasUK 14 Jan 2018 09:16:23 1,311 posts
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    I think if we were to imagine building the perfect premier league squad and we could clone any current player to do so. For me a perfect squafd would consist of 2 players for every posistion and a third player for eache role - Gk, CB, Winger, Full back, Midfield and Striker. So 28 players.

    If Son plays as a winger/forward that gives him (in a standard 4-4-2, by my above rules) 4 positions in the a team, 4 in the b team and 2 in reserves.

    As previously described above is about 10th best attacking player. So the decision ad to whether he makes the cut will be a close one.

    I reckon most arsenal fans would not include him, yet most spurs fans would.... who'd 'v thunk it?!
  • DakeyrasUK 14 Jan 2018 09:19:40 1,311 posts
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    @robc84 he was rellying to null, who said why the need to pick out top this and top that.
  • DakeyrasUK 14 Jan 2018 09:21:26 1,311 posts
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    @null need? Who needs are being met in this thread?

    You confuse choice to engage in a discussion, one pressumes people would be enjoying, with a need to do so.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 14 Jan 2018 09:33:22 5,229 posts
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    Nice to rescue a point but a bit of a shame that we've used up all of Joselu's goals for the winter on a draw with Swansea
  • robc84 14 Jan 2018 09:33:35 12,078 posts
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    Ah I have him on ignore. I assumed everyone did :)
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 14 Jan 2018 09:34:41 5,229 posts
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    I like Son a lot, he seems to make an impact whenever Ive seen him play and you've got to value a player who can do that a lot.
  • cjb_bjc 14 Jan 2018 10:00:57 1,910 posts
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    I think Schmeichel is a better keeper than Seaman because saves innit, and Danish bacon is tasty.
  • Syrette 14 Jan 2018 10:12:02 49,453 posts
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    The 90s had some amazing keepers, both domestically and abroad.

    Can't go wrong with a bit of Tim Flowers.
  • askew 14 Jan 2018 10:41:36 15,831 posts
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    Sanchez to Utd seems on.

    Great. Fucking great.
  • Frogofdoom 14 Jan 2018 10:49:49 6,519 posts
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    Nothing makes us seem any likelier than City at the moment, just press guessing I think.
  • captbirdseye 14 Jan 2018 10:50:13 8,175 posts
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    No idea why he'd want to play under Jose. He'll have him playing at defence.
  • null 14 Jan 2018 11:06:24 706 posts
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    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    Because teams are made up of individuals and football discussions would be worthless without sometimes discussing them.
    sure, but something other than “Jonny X is the best!” would be nice. Actual reasoning.
  • askew 14 Jan 2018 11:11:52 15,831 posts
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    Frogofdoom wrote:
    Nothing makes us seem any likelier than City at the moment, just press guessing I think.
    I suppose it means cash and a player…
  • Frogofdoom 14 Jan 2018 11:24:08 6,519 posts
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    I'm amazed Chelsea aren't being mentioned more to be linked with him. Hazard will be off in the summer and he is pretty much the perfect replacement who can still fit in until he leaves.


    If we do get him and you end up with Mhiki, I hope you can get the best out of him because behind his inconsistency there is a brilliant player there.

    Edited by Frogofdoom at 11:25:26 14-01-2018
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