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  • TheSaint 26 Jul 2014 02:25:05 14,618 posts
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    Well two out of the three we signed last season did ok. A player we sign is no more likely to fail than one brought by any other club IMO. In fact I'd argue that aside from Osvaldo (who Pochettino wanted and vouched for) all our signings since promotion have performed well.

    I'd be more worried about spending nearly £40mil on a couple of players who've had one good season than risking a few million on some foreign or lower league additions.
  • Dougs 26 Jul 2014 08:01:10 68,432 posts
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    José Mourinho: ‘Signing Luke Shaw would have killed Chelsea’

    http://gu.com/p/4v9e2

    I don't quite know how to respond to that.
  • PES_Fanboy 26 Jul 2014 08:04:37 17,124 posts
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    Ignore the troll?
  • Steve_Perry 26 Jul 2014 08:07:02 4,565 posts
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    He's got a point to be honest but then again who is he to moan about chucking money at anyone.

    VIVA STEFANSEN

  • PES_Fanboy 26 Jul 2014 08:10:30 17,124 posts
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    It's absolutely unprecedented for an English left back to leave his boyhood team for a rich club paying him huge money, though.

    Right, Jose?
  • Steve_Perry 26 Jul 2014 08:12:26 4,565 posts
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    I can take his point because it could upset the wage structure but I don't think it's unprecidented for a club to jizz wages on a teenager. Might be wrong.

    What was wazza on when he joined man u?

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  • Frogofdoom 26 Jul 2014 08:16:55 967 posts
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    Steve_Perry wrote:
    What was wazza on when he joined man u?
    Someones grandmother mostly
  • faux-C 26 Jul 2014 10:28:12 9,448 posts
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    Steve_Perry wrote:
    I can take his point because it could upset the wage structure but I don't think it's unprecidented for a club to jizz wages on a teenager. Might be wrong.

    What was wazza on when he joined man u?
    £130k a week for a teenage fullback is pretty mental.
  • neilqpr 26 Jul 2014 11:59:42 2,858 posts
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    PES_Fanboy wrote:
    DreadedWalrus wrote:
    How's Ravel Morrison thought of these days? There was a period where everyone considered him to be "the one that got away", but I haven't followed him lately.
    Turned the corner a bit in terms of getting his head down but not getting what you'd call fabulous support from his manager:

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/feb/20/sam-allardyce-ravel-morrison-agent-west-ham

    Sam wants shot of him, reckon 'Arry might snap him up, he did okay for QPR last season.
    Doubt we'll go for him, he was great in some games, absent in others.

    Was an unused sub in the playoff final, which tells you quite a bit.
  • President_Weasel 26 Jul 2014 12:04:15 9,452 posts
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    Great football intelligence, very very little actual intelligence.
  • ElNuevo9 26 Jul 2014 14:52:40 13,481 posts
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    faux_carnation wrote:
    Steve_Perry wrote:
    I can take his point because it could upset the wage structure but I don't think it's unprecidented for a club to jizz wages on a teenager. Might be wrong.

    What was wazza on when he joined man u?
    £130k a week for a teenage fullback is pretty mental.
    He's supposedly on £100k.

    Hated, adored, never ignored.

  • faux-C 26 Jul 2014 15:02:20 9,448 posts
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    ElNino9 wrote:
    faux_carnation wrote:
    Steve_Perry wrote:
    I can take his point because it could upset the wage structure but I don't think it's unprecidented for a club to jizz wages on a teenager. Might be wrong.

    What was wazza on when he joined man u?
    £130k a week for a teenage fullback is pretty mental.
    He's supposedly on £100k.
    Oh, that's ok then.
  • ElNuevo9 26 Jul 2014 15:04:02 13,481 posts
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    Not quite sure why you're so outraged?

    In demand teenage footballer earns ridiculous money shocker.

    Hated, adored, never ignored.

  • faux-C 26 Jul 2014 15:05:11 9,448 posts
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    Who said I was outraged? More of a wry smile actually.
  • The-Bodybuilder 26 Jul 2014 15:18:35 14,284 posts
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    Which other teenager, after only one good season in the league, makes £100k+ (tbf, most report much higher, so I suspect the lowering is to save face)?

    Someone name them please?
  • FWB 26 Jul 2014 15:24:48 44,839 posts
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    I think the most nerving thing here is how such a bunch of ickle underdogs can afford such a wage? I mean, how on earth are the brave little Utd finding that money? They're going to go bankrupt. I've been assured it is just City and Chelsea who have cash to splash.
  • TheMayorOfJugs 26 Jul 2014 15:26:44 4,015 posts
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    I remember Lucas Moura got 200k a week to join PSG when he was 19. I don't know any more recent examples though.
  • SolidSCB 26 Jul 2014 15:37:06 6,915 posts
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    The whole 'he's a teenager' thing is a seriously skewed way of looking at it anyway. Take for example Andy Carroll. Same sort of age bracket when he signed for Liverpool, signed for a similar transfer fee and I'm sure his wages weren't cheap. But I'm sure someone will come along and tell me that's completely different.
  • President_Weasel 26 Jul 2014 15:38:53 9,452 posts
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    SolidSCB wrote:
    The whole 'he's a teenager' thing is a seriously skewed way of looking at it anyway. Take for example Andy Carroll. Same sort of age bracket when he signed for Liverpool, signed for a similar transfer fee and I'm sure his wages weren't cheap. But I'm sure someone will come along and tell me that's completely different.
    Horses don't live nearly as long as humans, innit
  • Shikasama 26 Jul 2014 15:53:14 6,982 posts
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    Michael Owen played for free when he was dragging Liverpool through the league as a teenager.
  • RedSparrows 26 Jul 2014 16:37:17 23,305 posts
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    You know it was Mourinho the Cunt who said this, and not faux, right?
  • FWB 26 Jul 2014 16:42:50 44,839 posts
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    He's taken it as fact though.

    Kroos supposedly wanted 90k. The reason the Utd move didn't go through... apparently.

    God, I love rumours.

    Edited by FWB at 16:43:18 26-07-2014
  • Trowel 26 Jul 2014 16:45:05 17,910 posts
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    Speaking of rumours, there are claims Lukaku is set to join... Wolfsburg... :(
  • FWB 26 Jul 2014 16:49:11 44,839 posts
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    There are hundreds of rumours on Lukaku. One Spanish paper says Real are looking at him. I gave up ages ago. Well, know, that's a lie. After he went back I never really expected him to return. I am more worried that if we are waiting on it, we will be missing out elsewhere and it'll be a manic purchase at the end. I do have faith in Roberto, but he does like to buy tat too /cough Kone /cough.
  • kalel 26 Jul 2014 16:51:20 88,451 posts
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    Reading between the lines, his agent is trying to stir up interest but actually there isn't much.
  • Tom_Servo 26 Jul 2014 16:57:53 18,009 posts
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    Kone was pretty good for Wigan and he spent most of last season crocked, didn't he? Worth giving him another chance, surely?
  • FWB 26 Jul 2014 17:01:37 44,839 posts
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    Indeed he was injured. And thank christ he was, cos the times he was on the field he was atrocious.
  • Tom_Servo 26 Jul 2014 17:03:13 18,009 posts
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    Wiki says he's made five appearances for Everton. Give the boy a chance!
  • FWB 26 Jul 2014 17:05:04 44,839 posts
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    Six too many in IMHO.
  • faux-C 26 Jul 2014 17:08:07 9,448 posts
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    FWB wrote:
    He's taken it as fact though.
    It's not just Mourinho - it's been widely reported a £120k+ since it became known Shaw and Utd were in talks.

    Anyway, it doesn't really matter - £120k a week or £60k doesn't affect the supporters, but such an inflated wage for a largely unproven teenager sort of has a scent of desperation about it don't you think? A statement of Utd's relevance rather than a sound financial decision.

    See also: Andy Carroll.
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