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  • FWB 7 May 2014 17:48:30 43,806 posts
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    Reasons for not buying us:

    - Kenwright is shit at the financial side of the club, marketing and selling it.
    - Liverpool city is too small for two teams to compete at a high financially independent level. Which means a sugar daddy like at City or Chelsea is the only way to go. We aren't cheap enough for that and the city is, internationally marketing wise, dominated by Liverpool. One could argue our board takes a chunk of blame for that, but Liverpool are, without a doubt, a much bigger brand.
    - Uncertainty over a stadium. Plus we rarely sell out games at Goodison as it is. Although we've had record pre-sales for next season this year.

    We don't NEED to sell players now. I'll give Kenwright this... he is a Toffee and sales only came because the banks were going to shut us down (we were banned from transfers for two years). He's not one to suck the money out. If we sell, it'll be because we have replacements inline.

    Apparently a huge chunk of our TV sales are being put into yoof.
  • FWB 7 May 2014 17:51:54 43,806 posts
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    oceanmotion wrote:
    Where they ever planning to build a new stadium ?
    Yep. First plan crashed cos we couldn't raise the "deposit". Second cos the council didn't like - voted down by a few Liverpool fans on there, but not bitter ;) . Third one is a mile to the north but would rely on council funding. Won't happen.

    Man City must have been a good target because of that.
    I would imagine so. And Chelsea cos they are in London and it was a political move by Roman to help protect him back in Russia.

    Liverpool and Everton should just build one together.
    Hahahahahahahaha.

    Haha.

    Ha.

    (That's from both sets of fans)
  • thedaveeyres 7 May 2014 17:53:15 10,686 posts
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    You should put a small chunk of your TV sales into getting rid of those fucking pillars that mean you can't see half the pitch from the away end. :)

    Edited by thedaveeyres at 17:53:34 07-05-2014

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  • kalel 7 May 2014 17:53:57 86,328 posts
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    i'd have been happy to share a stadium with Arsenal. The San Siro is awesome and enhances the local rivalry.

    Given this time of austerity and the extreme limitations on space, I'm amazed more clubs don't do it.
  • Trowel 7 May 2014 17:54:00 17,429 posts
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    Our best (only?) bet is for Liverpool to bid for the Commonwealth Games. Has been mooted, but very unlikely.
  • FWB 7 May 2014 17:55:50 43,806 posts
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    You don't want to see it, unless you're City, Sunderland or Palace. :)

    I'm not actually upset by the situation. It's a tad annoying, cos it really is just finances stopping us from competing at the very top, but c'est la vie. I'm enjoying where we are very much and am fully aware that it could come crashing down. Most of my time as a fan has still been at the bottom, so I'm all too aware of what it's like.

    Edited by FWB at 17:58:30 07-05-2014
  • Trowel 7 May 2014 17:56:09 17,429 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    i'd have been happy to share a stadium with Arsenal. The San Siro is awesome and enhances the local rivalry.

    Given this time of austerity and the extreme limitations on space, I'm amazed more clubs don't do it.
    Milan have been trying to move out for the best part of a decade.
  • Shikasama 7 May 2014 17:56:16 6,603 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    i'd have been happy to share a stadium with Arsenal. The San Siro is awesome and enhances the local rivalry.

    Given this time of austerity and the extreme limitations on space, I'm amazed more clubs don't do it.
    Am I right in remembering you've been to the San Siro for a Milan game?
  • kalel 7 May 2014 17:56:58 86,328 posts
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    Shikasama wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    i'd have been happy to share a stadium with Arsenal. The San Siro is awesome and enhances the local rivalry.

    Given this time of austerity and the extreme limitations on space, I'm amazed more clubs don't do it.
    Am I right in remembering you've been to the San Siro for a Milan game?
    Not the derby. I went to Spurs Milan in the CL.
  • Shikasama 7 May 2014 17:58:18 6,603 posts
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    That's the one, remembered you talking about it at some point before.
  • kalel 7 May 2014 17:58:49 86,328 posts
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    Trowel wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    i'd have been happy to share a stadium with Arsenal. The San Siro is awesome and enhances the local rivalry.

    Given this time of austerity and the extreme limitations on space, I'm amazed more clubs don't do it.
    Milan have been trying to move out for the best part of a decade.
    They are in fact leaving but it's a shame, and I don't think it's because the fans wanted it.
  • Trowel 7 May 2014 18:04:33 17,429 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    Trowel wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    i'd have been happy to share a stadium with Arsenal. The San Siro is awesome and enhances the local rivalry.

    Given this time of austerity and the extreme limitations on space, I'm amazed more clubs don't do it.
    Milan have been trying to move out for the best part of a decade.
    They are in fact leaving but it's a shame, and I don't think it's because the fans wanted it.
    Yeah, sadly commercial opportunities far outweigh the value of an old lady. I'll miss Goodison when it goes, but it is a shithouse for match day revenue. And decent cups of tea. And decent beer... Death to the Old Ladies!
  • FWB 7 May 2014 18:06:14 43,806 posts
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    When? "If" at this rate.
  • kalel 7 May 2014 18:07:49 86,328 posts
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    I'm very glad we're renovating WHL instead of moving, even if the latter would/could have been far more profitable.
  • twelveways 7 May 2014 18:12:10 3,844 posts
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    I hate the commercialisation of stadium names, it takes away from the team's identity.
  • kalel 7 May 2014 18:18:18 86,328 posts
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    I think it's just a matter of time before we see sponsorship of team names themselves. The FA are doing well to hold it off, but sooner or later someone will find a loophole and then everyone will have to do it to keep up financially.
  • nickthegun 7 May 2014 18:18:41 58,782 posts
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    Youd be surprised how quickly you get used to it, tbh (although we were only at pride park for like 15 years).

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  • kalel 7 May 2014 18:22:52 86,328 posts
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    The weird part will be when these sponsorship deals change. Presumably at some point The Emirates deal runs out, and then it'll have a new name?
  • Trowel 7 May 2014 18:28:24 17,429 posts
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    That reminds The Reebok is changing name this summer to The Macron Stadium :/
  • nickthegun 7 May 2014 18:29:16 58,782 posts
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    I would have thought so. Ours would revert back to pride park but that was sponsored straight out of the blocks...they must have a contingency name if they default. The Wengerbowl or something.

    We gave ours way. We get like a million quid a season for it which, if we go up, is the most astute bit of business iPro will ever do.

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  • Dougs 7 May 2014 18:36:08 66,642 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    The weird part will be when these sponsorship deals change. Presumably at some point The Emirates deal runs out, and then it'll have a new name?

    We signed an extension in 2012 until 2028. By which point everyone will be past caring. I always wanted it to be called The Emirates Arsenal Stadium or something but obviously not as attractive to sponsors.
  • kalel 7 May 2014 18:37:17 86,328 posts
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    Trowel wrote:
    That reminds The Reebok is changing name this summer to The Macron Stadium :/
    That's a real shame. That was one that at least had real relevance.

    Reebok are missing a trick there, although I suppose now they're owned by adidas they don't give a shit.
  • thedaveeyres 7 May 2014 18:38:06 10,686 posts
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    Most of the sponsored stadia have reasonably well-known names to full back on: Ashburton Grove, The City of Manchester Stadium etc.

    No idea about the Amex or the Ricoh Arena though.

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  • Dougs 7 May 2014 18:50:48 66,642 posts
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    Ashburton Grove will never catch on sadly I don't think.
  • Trowel 7 May 2014 18:53:31 17,429 posts
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    Some chap called Van Gaal has told the BBC he wants to manage Manchester United.
  • Dougs 7 May 2014 18:57:04 66,642 posts
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    No action against Meyler for the stamp yesterday. Staggering.
  • mikew1985 7 May 2014 18:57:27 12,588 posts
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    Really?

    Ridiculous.
  • DreadedWalrus 7 May 2014 18:57:55 295 posts
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    I don't think team names in England will ever be sponsored, like with Red Bull's teams for example. I think it's more likely that there'll be a situation like in the US where practically every stadium has the naming rights sold. The FedEx Forum, The Staples Center, United Center, Nationwide Arena e.t.c.

    They wouldn't do it with existing stadiums, but I would be genuinely surprised if, when Liverpool one day move out of Anfield, for example, the stadium isn't named after a sponsor. Warrior Stadium, or something.
  • Dougs 7 May 2014 19:07:09 66,642 posts
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    mikew1985 wrote:
    Really?

    Ridiculous.
    Ref claimed he saw it apparently. In which case, he wasn't doing his job.

    Anyway, I liked this much more than the She Wore YouTube clip

    http://t.co/5W9NrtqpOF
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