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  • THFourteen 7 Apr 2014 12:31:42 41,611 posts
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    The thing is, whats really missing is that intensity, the collective "defensive / run around like maniacs" mentality of the team. The sort of thing that Chelsea and Stoke have, but City don't need because they substitute it with immense quality all over the pitch (which we don't have).

    There are two reasons why it's gone missing

    1) Tired players
    2) Players not hungry enough

    You look at the beginning of the game yesterday, and Everton were flying into the challenges. Yet their manager likes to play attractive football. Where was our intensity? Why do we never start like that? It's so hard to get MORE intensity when you start with none. Normally you start off high, and then tail off as your players get tired.

    Dunno who to blame.
  • Kay 7 Apr 2014 12:33:02 18,483 posts
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    We started off with that sort of intensity earlier this season. It's that age-old argument about tired players, injuries etc.
  • Dougs 7 Apr 2014 12:34:20 79,556 posts
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    I don't think it's anything to do with hunger, it's more fear imo. Get the fuckers to a shrink quick smart
  • motti82 7 Apr 2014 13:01:53 3,287 posts
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    Shearer is Mr England. Couldn't give a shit about tactics, formations or even the European leagues.

    You need progressive managers that are willing to spend time honing their game and style.

    I do hope Everton finish 4th, a great year for Merseyside clubs.
  • Baihu1983 7 Apr 2014 13:19:53 7,042 posts
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    Sky are saying Spurs will replace Tim at the end of the season

    Edited by Baihu1983 at 13:29:50 07-04-2014
  • Baihu1983 7 Apr 2014 13:19:54 7,042 posts
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  • Syrette 7 Apr 2014 13:30:04 47,924 posts
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    So Spurs just gave up their season, basically. They'll put next to no effort in to their remaining games, in the knowledge that their manager is leaving anyway. Clubs will look at Spurs games as easy points from here on out.

    Surely you leave this sort of stuff till the season's end, or at least don't leak it on the day of a match?

    Shades of Jol's sacking about it (not as bad, mind).
  • FWB 7 Apr 2014 13:45:37 52,502 posts
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    http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=313201.0
  • Deleted user 7 April 2014 13:49:32
    Dear god.
  • Baihu1983 7 Apr 2014 13:50:28 7,042 posts
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    @Syrette maybe but those players are still playing for their futures.
  • Dougs 7 Apr 2014 13:54:18 79,556 posts
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    Not really, as they won't know who the new manager will be. They might play out of their skin and still be shipped out. Or kept on as they once played well against the new manager's team etc.
  • Deleted user 7 April 2014 14:02:38
    I wonder if they want to announce LVG as manager ASAP so as to motivate players, and get people to sign up for their season tickets.
  • Dougs 7 Apr 2014 14:06:31 79,556 posts
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    Yeah, that would work.
  • morriss 7 Apr 2014 14:28:08 71,298 posts
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    Just like to say, once again, and for the final time, that I was so wrong about MArtinez and kalel was right. Please let's get him as our next manager.

    Still think AVB needed more time

    :(
  • Deleted user 7 April 2014 14:29:50
    Boat missed on that one.

    The only consolation is that now he'll leave Everton for a big job in Spain, not us.
  • morriss 7 Apr 2014 14:31:09 71,298 posts
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    Yeah. Fair to him. I think I'm not the only doubter he proved wrong. But he tactically dicked Wenger on Saturday, and that's no mean feat.
  • vijay_UK 7 Apr 2014 14:36:59 3,962 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    The thing is, whats really missing is that intensity, the collective "defensive / run around like maniacs" mentality of the team. The sort of thing that Chelsea and Stoke have, but City don't need because they substitute it with immense quality all over the pitch (which we don't have).

    There are two reasons why it's gone missing

    1) Tired players
    2) Players not hungry enough

    You look at the beginning of the game yesterday, and Everton were flying into the challenges. Yet their manager likes to play attractive football. Where was our intensity? Why do we never start like that? It's so hard to get MORE intensity when you start with none. Normally you start off high, and then tail off as your players get tired.

    Dunno who to blame.
    Point behind Everton but you've been in the Champions League this season and have reached the Cup semi final. Everton have had no Europe and done nothing in the cups, like Liverpool. All this Martinez love has gotten out of hand. Win your remaining games and I'm pretty sure it's CL again next year, it's a good run-in too.
  • Dougs 7 Apr 2014 14:37:26 79,556 posts
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    morriss wrote:
    Yeah. Fair to him. I think I'm not the only doubter he proved wrong. But he tactically dicked Wenger on Saturday, and that's no mean feat.
    Tsk, Wenger doesn't do tactics, silly!
  • spindle9988 7 Apr 2014 14:37:56 4,359 posts
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    I was gutted when I thought we were going to get Martinez. I am not saying I would swap Rodgers for him but I was definitely wrong about his ability
  • Deleted user 7 April 2014 14:38:51
    Nonsense. Martinez and Everton are the real success story of this season, not Liverpool.
  • Deleted user 7 April 2014 14:44:20
    I really don't want LVG at WHL - a manager who'll probably treat it as a blank sheet. If Sherwood must go, then I'd rather see Hoddle back.

    Maybe I'm just being a bit kneejerk 'big name manager @ WHL, here we go again'.
  • Blakester 7 Apr 2014 14:47:04 4,041 posts
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    Whenever I see Hoddle mentioned in connection with the Spurs gig, I just think Dalglish.
  • Deleted user 7 April 2014 14:50:24
    Hoddle has unfinished business with us, and I do think he has the potential to be a very good manager for us. The Dalglish comparison is an odd one. Hoddle was ahead of his time in his approach last time. We weren't ready for that kind of thing. Dalglish by comparison was a dinosaur in his last stint at Liverpool.

    This season would have been the perfect opportunity to give him another trial run after AVB didn't work out. Very much a missed chance. I guess he'll have to wait for the next guy to not work out now, so he'll probably be in charge around this time next year.
  • spindle9988 7 Apr 2014 14:52:18 4,359 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    Nonsense. Martinez and Everton are the real success story of this season, not Liverpool.
    Whats nonsense?
  • Deleted user 7 April 2014 14:52:51
    vijay_UK wrote:
    All this Martinez love has gotten out of hand
  • spindle9988 7 Apr 2014 14:56:26 4,359 posts
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    I havent said anything about Everton not being a success story. As its you as well Kales, you always point out Liverpool have done nothing until the season has finished. So even though Everton could still finish outside the top 4 with the run in they have, you are calling it a success story
  • Deleted user 7 April 2014 14:57:12
    Again, my post was at Vijay, not you...
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