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  • Blakester 11 Mar 2014 16:29:13 4,041 posts
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    I think he got off fairly lightly actually.

    Considering he's been warned about his conduct before, I was expecting them to properly throw the book at him.
  • TheSaint 11 Mar 2014 16:30:11 16,851 posts
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    Banning from the stadium itself is pretty unprecedented as far as I can remember.
  • Deleted user 11 March 2014 16:53:21
    arials101 wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    Liverpool were able to resist because they were able to convince Suarez to stay. That's all that matters really. If a player is happy to stay, then it doesn't matter what bids come in for him.
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    Liverpool wouldn't want to sell Suarez for any sum of money another club would reasonably be able to offer, but if he makes it clear behind the scenes that he is off like Bale/Torres did then negotiations on a fee would start.

    This Suarez to Real Madrid situation is purely hypothetical though - might as well discuss Ozil to Bayern Munich or Yaya Toure/Eden Hazard to PSG. There's still two months of the season (and a world cup) before trite transfer speculation has a place.
    Sorry, I didn't realise we needed to wait for the appropriate moment to speculate on these things. Be sure to tell the media, they'll definitely give a fuck.
  • nickthegun 11 Mar 2014 17:13:52 68,476 posts
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    TheSaint wrote:
    Banning from the stadium itself is pretty unprecedented as far as I can remember.
  • Deleted user 11 March 2014 17:28:02
    Kaboul has had his red rescinded.

    That's the second time this season the FA has essentially admitted to a crucial wrong decision. It's nice that they admit their errors, but it's a little irritating that there's no real benefit to the realisation other than a player not being banned.

    Anyway, slightly improves our chances against Arsenal which is nice.
  • Dougs 11 Mar 2014 17:35:45 79,544 posts
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    Isn't that was Boriska was saying last week?! :)

    It also sends some pretty conflicting messages imo. Was it rescinded because they didn't think it was a foul (which surely they would never do, undermines the ref) or because they didn't think it was a clear goalscoring questions (genuine question, not had time to look at the outcome).
  • Mr_Sleep 11 Mar 2014 17:37:44 20,463 posts
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    The other option is that they think Chelsea are full of cunts so they just differed to that principle when making their ruling.
  • Deleted user 11 March 2014 17:38:10
    I didn't disagree with him, although he was saying a player being banned after the game doesn't help, which is sort of the opposite.

    As I said then, in those cases I think point deductions should be considered. It's the only fair (and meaningful) way to punish clubs.
  • Deleted user 11 March 2014 17:39:28
    They don't really clarify exactly why its rescinded. Just "unfair dismissal".
  • Deleted user 11 March 2014 17:40:20
    In the case of Danny Rose's against City though, it was a clear admittance it wasn't a foul.
  • Mr_Sleep 11 Mar 2014 17:44:25 20,463 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    As I said then, in those cases I think point deductions should be considered. It's the only fair (and meaningful) way to punish clubs.
    If a dive is a yellow card during the match then surely the same should apply in these situations and the Chelsea player should have a yellow card put against their name. Although that opens up a whole can of worms regarding putting panels together to do this even when a player hasn't been red carded. I can't see the FA giving themselves more work to do.
  • robc84 11 Mar 2014 19:17:10 10,608 posts
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    Some good news then. Shame eto'o won't get punished though even though the fa are basically admitting he dived.
  • faux-C 11 Mar 2014 20:29:45 11,201 posts
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    SolidSCB wrote:
    He's off in the summer, end of. He seemed quite happy moving almost sideways to Arsenal last summer before all the contract clause bollocks. When someone like Real come in at the end of the season, you've got fuck all chance. I'm sure he's already got a good idea of where he's off to and has done well to put himself in the shop window for the clubs who can afford him. Kudos to Liverpool for getting him to sign a new contract though. I'm sure he'll go for Bale money, but go he absolutely, 100% without a shadow of a doubt will.
    What are you basing that on, exactly? If we qualify for the Champions League there's no way he'll leave in the summer.
  • ElNuevo9 11 Mar 2014 21:41:33 14,114 posts
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    So, if you get Champions League, he won't want to move to a warmer climate that is more akin to the one he grew up in, play with some of the worlds best players at one of the most prestigious clubs in the world and probably get a massive pay rise?

    Right you are.

    Edit: I also forgot to mention that racism is still rife in Spanish football - he's perfect for Madrid.

    Edited by ElNino9 at 21:43:36 11-03-2014
  • FWB 11 Mar 2014 21:52:46 52,494 posts
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    So, is Suarez a true Red, loyal to the core again? No shirt burning anymore? The wind changes so quickly at Anfield, it is hard to keep up.
  • twelveways 12 Mar 2014 04:48:58 6,586 posts
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    If he really wanted CL football then he would be a bit dumb to leave the club that he helps to qualify. I reckon he would wait for LPool to crash out before he leaves.
  • morriss 12 Mar 2014 05:33:26 71,298 posts
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    You make it sound like he has loyalty. He'll ask for a transfer in the summer. Why shouldn't he?
  • twelveways 12 Mar 2014 06:28:32 6,586 posts
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    Not loyalty as such, more like wanting to see something through to the finish. Obviously I (like I presume all of the people here) don't really know what is going through his mind.
  • Trowel 12 Mar 2014 07:04:06 20,677 posts
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    Roger Madrid: "Luis, we'd like to pay you 300k per week."

    Luis: "Oh no Roger Madrid, you see: When you walk through a storm... hold your head up high..."
  • Deleted user 12 March 2014 07:12:42
    Guys we're not supposed to talk about this. It ain't appropriate yet.
  • robc84 12 Mar 2014 08:55:25 10,608 posts
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    To be fair the reason it was bought up in the first place was someone suggesting that once Liverpool were in the top 4 that they would be there for good.

    The reality is that they have a world class player who will eventually be off to a bigger club (most likely Madrid), regardless of whether they have CL. Sadly, it's the way of the football world.
  • The-Bodybuilder 12 Mar 2014 08:56:34 16,248 posts
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    Roger Madrid is an awesome.
  • mikew1985 12 Mar 2014 09:00:39 14,182 posts
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    Also Liverpool are and will be the most tenuously poised of the top 4 clubs even if they get in this season.

    Next season the fight to get into that top 4 is going to be even more competitive you'd feel.
  • twelveways 12 Mar 2014 09:05:23 6,586 posts
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    Liverpool proved that they could play pretty well without him, losing him and gaining 80+ million for a replacement and some defenders might not be the worst thing in the world. I think they still have pulling power, especially if they do get a top 4.
  • IMO 12 Mar 2014 09:07:54 6,513 posts
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    After all, it worked out really well for Spurs.
  • TheSaint 12 Mar 2014 09:11:39 16,851 posts
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    Personally I love the romanticised view Liverpool fans have of Suarez.

    We have academy graduates that I wouldn't assume have that kind of loyalty let alone a Uruguayan who has only been at their club a few years.

    In some ways he has almost become bigger than the club in the eyes of Liverpool fans. Even giving interviews to The Sun and saying he want to leave don't dent his popularity. He could probably wear a United shirt and take a dump on a seat in the Kop and Liverpool fans would put it down to some kind of twisted way to motivate his team mates.
  • robc84 12 Mar 2014 09:11:48 10,608 posts
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    twelveways wrote:
    Liverpool proved that they could play pretty well without him, losing him and gaining 80+ million for a replacement and some defenders might not be the worst thing in the world. I think they still have pulling power, especially if they do get a top 4.
    To be fair, we thought the same. We have much better squad depth now, but you just can't replace that magic that a Suarez or a Bale provides.

    Any team would struggle to lose a player of that quality and carry on as well as before.

    You'd have to think Utd will be back in the hunt for top 4 next year, as well as Spurs, Arsenal and possibly Everton. I'm not saying they won't finish top 4 again, but it's far from guaranteed like it used to be.
  • spindle9988 12 Mar 2014 09:12:49 4,359 posts
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    robc84 wrote:
    To be fair the reason it was bought up in the first place was someone suggesting that once Liverpool were in the top 4 that they would be there for good.

    The reality is that they have a world class player who will eventually be off to a bigger club (most likely Madrid), regardless of whether they have CL. Sadly, it's the way of the football world.
    If he does go, it will be all about how the money is reinvested. It was different for spurs because they sold bale without haviing champions league football the following season. If Liverpool sell suarez in the next window, we (should) have champions leauge football so will be able to attract a different class of player
  • Deleted user 12 March 2014 09:20:34
    robc84 wrote:
    To be fair the reason it was bought up in the first place was someone suggesting that once Liverpool were in the top 4 that they would be there for good.
    I don't think that was strictly what was said, it was more along the lines of Liverpool having been in the top four not too long ago for an extended period. I don't think there was even a hint of entitlement in the post (as in Liverpool deserving to be a top four club). I think it's just that certain clubs fans like to take a swipe at Liverpool, for whatever reason. Spurs and Man U fans need something to moan about rather than their own clubs ;) - don't worry, it will all change and you can go back to lolling at us soon

    Sure, Suarez will almost certainly have his head turned, and Liverpool won't be able to compete with the wages he's likely to be offered by a team bankrolled by either an oil baron or the Spanish government, but I don't know that he is purely motivated by money. He'll leave at some point, but he may stay for a season if Liverpool reach the Champions League. We'll have to wait and see (and endure the World Cup in the meantime).

    Oh, and if newspaper reports are to be believed, I can't believe Utd are planning on letting Hernandez go at the end of the season - I'd have him at Liverpool, and he'd be a good shout for Spurs too.
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