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  • Kay 10 Nov 2013 22:30:29 18,147 posts
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    LeD wrote:
    And this is why, for all the plaudits about this 'new' Arsenal, nothing much has changed and I wouldn't be surprised if the wheels come off yet again.

    This defeat probably needs to be read carefully, following a difficult midweek game, losing two key players, etc. but it still means we cannot beat anyone from last year top four, or even dig deep to NOT get beaten.

    Still think we'll manage to finish in the CL places though...
    The wheels didn't come off after the defeats against Dortmund and Chelsea, so no reason to believe they will come off now. And we managed to dig deep to get a result against a top team just a few days ago.

    I really wouldn't worry about it too much.
  • Humperfunk 10 Nov 2013 22:33:56 2,891 posts
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    Great celebration from Van Persie, go on son!

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  • JiveHound 10 Nov 2013 22:36:00 3,082 posts
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    More concussions than a boxing match so far.

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  • Deleted user 10 November 2013 22:48:46
    The top teams always lose one or two throughout the season to the mid table also-rans, today was just Arsenal getting it out of their system.
  • TheSaint 10 Nov 2013 23:01:21 15,396 posts
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    Appalling decision for that penalty there. That's two refs who need to be rotting in League 2 for a few weeks after terrible decisions this weekend.
  • TheMayorOfJugs 10 Nov 2013 23:07:38 5,514 posts
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    Krul didn't play half well today eh?
  • Saucy 10 Nov 2013 23:08:23 2,658 posts
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    Shocking decisions every week, embarrassing that football doesn't have technology.
  • Deleted user 10 November 2013 23:42:11
    God that decision. Christ.
  • Syrette 10 Nov 2013 23:53:46 45,074 posts
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    Aargh. wrote:
    The top teams always lose one or two throughout the season to the mid table also-rans, today was just Arsenal getting it out of their system.
    Are you an 'ABU'?

  • mcmonkeyplc 10 Nov 2013 23:56:19 39,756 posts
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    No he's a butt hurt Arsenal fan. :)

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • ElNuevo9 11 Nov 2013 00:12:16 13,859 posts
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    Parked the bus today? Bollocks. For the main part, that was very comfortable.

    United shaded the first half and Arsenal the second. For all the Arsenal possession second half, I can't remember de Gea making a save, whilst Rooney and Smalling could and probably should have scored.

    Very disappointed with Arsenal today.

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  • Dougs 11 Nov 2013 07:24:55 71,347 posts
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    Because you parked the bus, with some last ditch defending and rub of the green in some situations (such as the Sagna crosses which could have gone anywhere). We weren't great offensively at all and we're still never out of the game. This is what I meant by the crowd, it felt like an underdog reaction more than 'we've just beaten the league leaders'. More relief than anything.

    Anyway, we didn't deserve much so I'm not going to grumble. Let's see how we respond after the break.
  • mcmonkeyplc 11 Nov 2013 07:31:00 39,756 posts
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    It's both relief and sense we've beaten the league leaders. The sense of relief shouldn't really be surprising given our transitional nature this season.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • King_Edward 11 Nov 2013 07:42:52 11,471 posts
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    Tbh I thought United controlled the game quite comfortably. Dominated the first half, then set up to counter in the second. A couple of decent crosses was all Arsenal really managed.
  • danathjo 11 Nov 2013 09:01:05 7,665 posts
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    this still going?
  • Deleted user 11 November 2013 09:12:26
    I don't see Arsenal losing to Man U as a massive deal in itself. If they fail to win away at Chelsea, City, Spurs and Liverpool as well then yeah, probably not title contenders, but as an isolated result it's fairly meaningless.

    Equally I don't think it says a huge amount about Man U in isolation either. They still look extremely beatable to me, and even though they won yesterday, I still see United as our competition for top four more than Arsenal.
  • Widge Moderator 11 Nov 2013 09:24:14 13,821 posts
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    Arsenal travel to Old Trafford as well as Guinness travels out of Ireland.

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  • askew 11 Nov 2013 09:25:10 13,222 posts
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    Bloody internationals mean we've got a fortnight of this :(
  • danathjo 11 Nov 2013 09:29:18 7,665 posts
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    what do the think Giroud did?
  • TheSaint 11 Nov 2013 09:29:39 15,396 posts
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    Rooney is carrying a fair few very average players in that United team, if he gets injured then they're screwed.
  • JiveHound 11 Nov 2013 09:42:00 3,082 posts
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    Good job they kept hold of him. Could have been very different if the media are to be believed.

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  • Blotto 11 Nov 2013 09:55:59 2,778 posts
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    Frustratingly we seemed to treat United on last seasons form, playing defensively and treating it like the dortmund game where we were the underdogs.

    Works both ways though, we clearly saw Liverpool as the team they were last season too.

    Disappointing but a good win against Southampton and everything's hunky dory again. Be nice to have Theo back as an option.
  • nickthegun 11 Nov 2013 09:59:04 62,891 posts
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  • TheSaint 11 Nov 2013 10:11:59 15,396 posts
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    It was also a joke having United v Arsenal as the first game on MotD2. It was easily the worst of the games that day and had already been shown live on TV. A three all draw especially one containing a controversial last minute penalty should have been on first followed by the other two underdog wins.
  • Deleted user 11 November 2013 10:13:36
    I don;t see how anyone can "expect" Arsenal to win the league at this point. They certainly could, but it's very rare the clear winner emerges until at least February.

    Arsenal's worry should be that City and Chelsea have still got a gear or two to find (as do Spurs tbh), whereas I'm relatively sure Arsenal (and probably Liverpool) are currently showing their best form. Given their depth issues, things could change quite a lot as the season goes on, particularly as most of their hardest fixtures are yet to come.
  • TheSaint 11 Nov 2013 10:30:41 15,396 posts
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    It's still hard to see beyond Chelsea and Man City as they seem to be the only two with a real depth of quality players in their squads. Arsenal, Liverpool, United and Spurs all seem to be a couple of injuries from having to rely on fairly average players.
  • thedaveeyres 11 Nov 2013 10:33:32 11,972 posts
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    I really don't fancy Man City. They're far too inconsistent to win the league. Chelsea, despite their wobbles, look a much more solid outfit.

  • Deleted user 11 November 2013 10:35:53
    Yeah, I'd say City are more of an outside bet than Arsenal at this point.
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