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  • THFourteen 3 Jul 2013 09:38:46 41,105 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    I would imagine that Barca arent short of a few quid.
    Well no, seeing as they are bankrolled by the government and spanish banks.
  • nickthegun 3 Jul 2013 09:40:11 67,922 posts
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    The spanish governemnts plan to pretty much exempt football teams from having to pay tax was hilarious. Ze Germans were not pleased.
  • The-Bodybuilder 3 Jul 2013 09:49:49 16,212 posts
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    Wasn't it just a couple of seasons ago where they were in a financial dire due to massive debts, and had to get another government "loan"?
  • Deleted user 3 July 2013 09:50:26
    Man U aren't exactly debt free.
  • THFourteen 3 Jul 2013 09:52:37 41,105 posts
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    They aren't debt free, but the last i looked they had to raise all their money legitimately unlike Barca / Real
  • imamazed 3 Jul 2013 09:56:05 6,295 posts
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    Geldof'll get a concert together soon to cancel all the debt, it'll be fine.
  • Deleted user 3 July 2013 09:56:21
    Real have the highest legitimate revenue of any club in the world ($650m a year), and Barca are 2nd ($613m a year).

    Man U are third on $502m a year, some distance behind.
  • mikew1985 3 Jul 2013 09:56:52 14,124 posts
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    Yay! Let's talk about finances again \o/
  • nickthegun 3 Jul 2013 09:57:36 67,922 posts
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    Collectively spanish teams owe the government around 700m euros of unpaid taxes.

    The same government that just asked for a 4bn bailout.
  • Deleted user 3 July 2013 10:08:38
    kalel wrote:
    Real have the highest legitimate revenue of any club in the world ($650m a year), and Barca are 2nd ($613m a year).

    Man U are third on $502m a year, some distance behind.
    Out of interest, when did you last check that figure?

    Edit: WHOOPS! I thought you were talking about debt. Nevermind.

    Edited by mcmonkeyplc at 10:11:05 03-07-2013
  • Deleted user 3 July 2013 10:11:39
    Don't forget, we can make money out of thin air.
  • Deleted user 3 July 2013 10:12:06
    That's from Forbes' last published football rich list (April 2013).
  • Deleted user 3 July 2013 10:28:22
    Soon to be falling like a rock...but till then CHAMPIONS.

    Carry on.
  • mikew1985 3 Jul 2013 10:28:30 14,124 posts
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    :D

    mcmonkey not even reading the post you're trying to fact check.
  • Deleted user 3 July 2013 10:29:09
    Also why haven't the BBC been reporting the Thiago transfer? Makes me think it's all bullshit.
  • THFourteen 3 Jul 2013 10:35:12 41,105 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    Real have the highest legitimate revenue of any club in the world ($650m a year), and Barca are 2nd ($613m a year).

    Man U are third on $502m a year, some distance behind.
    How much illigitemate revenue do those three clubs have?
  • Deleted user 3 July 2013 10:36:53
    I've no idea, you're the one going on about the illegitimate money they apparently have.
  • THFourteen 3 Jul 2013 10:39:02 41,105 posts
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    and you are the one posting irrelevant replies to my posts.
  • Deleted user 3 July 2013 10:39:37
    It's not the fact that it's illegitimate it's the fact that they get so much more from TV than we can ever hope to as we have to (rightly) look after the interests of the league we play in.

    A loop hole Uefa need to address.
  • nickthegun 3 Jul 2013 10:40:59 67,922 posts
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    Loads as they, apparently, dont pay any taxes.
  • Deleted user 3 July 2013 10:42:08
    THFourteen wrote:
    and you are the one posting irrelevant replies to my posts.
    How was it irrelevant to point out the Spanish clubs legitimate revenue surpasses Man U's in relation to your point?

    Take these "illegitimate" revenues out the equation and the Spanish clubs still have way more money. That's the point.
  • Deleted user 3 July 2013 10:43:49
    Although to be honest I might just be missing whatever your point is. As ever it's a bit of a scattergun of whingyness.
  • THFourteen 3 Jul 2013 10:47:57 41,105 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    THFourteen wrote:
    and you are the one posting irrelevant replies to my posts.
    How was it irrelevant to point out the Spanish clubs legitimate revenue surpasses Man U's in relation to your point?
    Its irrelevant because my point was that all of Man Utds money was debt free.

    Thats why i said : "They aren't debt free, but the last i looked they had to raise all their money legitimately unlike Barca / Real"

    Your point that Real / Barca earn more money legitimately than Man Utd has absoultely nothing to do with what I posted.

    if a thief earns 100k per year legitimately and you earn 50k per year legitimately, he is still a thief and you are not.
  • THFourteen 3 Jul 2013 10:50:50 41,105 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    Although to be honest I might just be missing whatever your point is. As ever it's a bit of a scattergun of whingyness.
    Ah back to personal insults when you've lost an argument. kalel's finishing move
  • Deleted user 3 July 2013 10:53:32
    Snippyness results in snippyness.

    I'm still not really following your point. I think you need to define what you mean by "legitimate". Both clubs are borrowing money, the Spanish ones just happen to be borrowing if from their own government.
  • Deleted user 3 July 2013 11:00:42
    Let's all just agree on Man Utd being the bastion of well managed football clubs in the UK and move on.

    :)
  • President_Weasel 3 Jul 2013 11:01:32 11,820 posts
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    Why don't you two just stop pulling each others' pigtails and get a room?

    The Spanish clubs need to stop cheating the taxman and pay what they owe; clubs in other countries have to pay their tax bills or suffer the consequences, for example in the UK they face winding up orders from HMRC, leading to administration and points deductions or going out of business altogether.

    Just not paying isn't an option, and for several Spanish clubs to be running what amounts to unofficial loans from a Spanish government desperately in need of cash just isn't on.

    Also if Monaco want to play in the French league they should pay French taxes like the other clubs, fuck 'em.
  • Deleted user 3 July 2013 11:06:03
    I'm pretty sure the Germans will get to the lack of tax paid by clubs if Spain ask for more money.

    They haven't asked for giant sums of money...yet.
  • welshben1982 3 Jul 2013 11:14:22 1,171 posts
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    captbirdseye wrote:
    @welshben23 Hahaha, do find it funny that we're constantly linked with the same players. I really can't wait for our South Wales derby :D.
    :D I can't wait either. It will be my first derby. I won't be going to the away game at Legoland ;) but will definitey be going to the home game.
  • nickthegun 3 Jul 2013 11:16:45 67,922 posts
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    They already did. The spanish government attempted to write the debts off in one swoop. Ze germans went apeshit and, iirc, FIFA got involved and they quickly U-turned.
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