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  • Orange 23 Apr 2013 20:49:45 5,170 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    Course he had grounds, he slipped FFS!
    Slipping means nothing when it comes to the rules though. Most red card tackles happen because of clumsiness, whether it's poor timing, slipping on surface or slipping on studs. The rules do not say anything about letting a player off because they're too clumsy to stay on their feet or avoid slipping. Lack of intent isn't mentioned, just whether a foul endangered the safety of the opponent.

    Edited by Orange at 20:52:18 23-04-2013
  • President_Weasel 23 Apr 2013 21:05:00 11,820 posts
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    It's harder to conclusively prove racism than it is to prove biting.
    Although Teflon Terry could probably tear a bloody chunk out of someone's arm live on television and skate with a warning.
  • mikew1985 23 Apr 2013 21:25:27 14,124 posts
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    Shikasama wrote:
    Also, much to the dismay of lazy journalists everywhere, Gotze has become the most expensive German of all time by agreeing to move to Bayern this summer for 31m
    :( I was stupidly holding onto a hope we might go in for him
  • Humperfunk 23 Apr 2013 21:30:34 5,344 posts
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    I assume everyone's seen Anichebe's quality tweet about Suarez. On my phone so can't link but my respect for Victor has increased. I also assume its a genuine account it came from.
  • FWB 23 Apr 2013 21:39:08 52,260 posts
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    The book will be big cos of his priors. So more than eight is not unreasonable. He's not just a cunt, but an idiot. Thick as shit, since he doesn't seem to learn. Maybe a hefty ban will get through that dense skull of his.
  • Nades 23 Apr 2013 21:53:13 2,668 posts
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    President_Weasel wrote:
    It's harder to conclusively prove racism than it is to prove biting.
    Although Teflon Terry could probably tear a bloody chunk out of someone's arm live on television and skate with a warning.
    If it wasn't conclusively proven, he should never of got in trouble for it in my opinion.
  • Trowel 23 Apr 2013 21:54:33 20,431 posts
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    Humperfunk wrote:
    I assume everyone's seen Anichebe's quality tweet about Suarez. On my phone so can't link but my respect for Victor has increased. I also assume its a genuine account it came from.
    Sadly not a genuine account, as it would have instantly changed the opinion of half of Everton fans for the better!
  • Humperfunk 23 Apr 2013 21:58:46 5,344 posts
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    Hahaha damn! I knew it was too good to be true!
  • The-Bodybuilder 24 Apr 2013 07:53:59 16,212 posts
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    Menace wrote:
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    Would love Klopp at Arsenal afer Wenger leaves.
    Maybe when he gets sick of BM stealing his players, he will come to us. So he can get sick of City stealing his players.
    You can't have him - I want him at OT! ;)
    Pre-emptive theft is still theft.
    You're gonna have Mourinho. Accept that, suckers.
  • The-Bodybuilder 24 Apr 2013 07:55:16 16,212 posts
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    Nades wrote:
    So biting someone which obviously wasn't that hard of a bite is worse than racism? Hmmm yeah good one FA.
    Bite hardness is a factor?

    But you're right, he should've got half-a-seasons ban for the racist comment, and then 10 for this.
  • The-Bodybuilder 24 Apr 2013 07:57:53 16,212 posts
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    Nades wrote:
    President_Weasel wrote:
    It's harder to conclusively prove racism than it is to prove biting.
    Although Teflon Terry could probably tear a bloody chunk out of someone's arm live on television and skate with a warning.
    If it wasn't conclusively proven, he should never of got in trouble for it in my opinion.
    So.....his biting should't be as long as his racist ban, yet you're also saying his racism wasn't conclusive, and thus an explanation as to why it should't be that long/shorter than the bite?

    In other words.....get back to RAWK.
  • Deleted user 24 April 2013 09:28:58
    Yeah, I think the real issue there is that the racism ban wasn't long enough by far, and now the FA have a real pickle on their hands with this punishment.

    For me the solution is to imply that this ban takes into account the previous ban for racism, and they give him an extended ban for "continual brining the game into disrepute" or something like that.
  • nickthegun 24 Apr 2013 09:32:22 67,921 posts
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    The continuing saga of 'The FA are fucking useless'
  • kentmonkey 24 Apr 2013 09:32:45 21,772 posts
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    Surely that's what they'll do though, no? I mean, I know the FA aren't always sensible, but this is almost too sensible for them not to have realised.

    In the whole racism thing you had his 'but in Uruguay it is usual for us to treat black people like this' bullshit he was peddling. Which I'd hope nobody fell for, but may have led them to be able to slightly reduce the punishment due to mitigating circumstances or something similar. I can't see how he can use the same excuse this time. 'but in Uruguay, it's a mark of respect for us to bite somebody. They wear bite marks as a sign of respect'.
  • Deleted user 24 April 2013 09:40:41
    Well, again, there's the slight issue of Defoe doing it once and nothing being done about it. Again though, they can get round this for the punishment being for a broader 'crime'.

    Which frankly is the point.
  • Deleted user 24 April 2013 09:42:54
    The bans carry over to different leagues so it could actually end up having a significant impact on his price, or even whether he goes at all.
  • kentmonkey 24 Apr 2013 09:46:13 21,772 posts
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    Deckard1 wrote:
    It would be nice to see some honesty from the FA - "Look, everyone knows what a vile cunt he is, so we're going to give him a 15 game ban."
    + a billionty
  • imamazed 24 Apr 2013 09:46:22 6,295 posts
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    Deckard1 wrote:
    It would be nice to see some honesty from the FA - "Look, everyone knows what a vile cunt he is, so we're going to give him a 15 game ban."
    I'd bloody love it if that was the press release. No more detail, just that.
  • Blaketown 24 Apr 2013 09:47:09 5,658 posts
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    kentmonkey wrote:
    Surely that's what they'll do though, no? I mean, I know the FA aren't always sensible, but this is almost too sensible for them not to have realised.

    In the whole racism thing you had his 'but in Uruguay it is usual for us to treat black people like this' bullshit he was peddling. Which I'd hope nobody fell for, but may have led them to be able to slightly reduce the punishment due to mitigating circumstances or something similar. I can't see how he can use the same excuse this time. 'but in Uruguay, it's a mark of respect for us to bite somebody. They wear bite marks as a sign of respect'.
    Ironically the Rugby team that crashed in the Andes (in Alive), and resorted to cannibalism to survive were Uruguayan. So there is a cultural precedent. Maybe it is more acceptable.
  • nickthegun 24 Apr 2013 09:48:35 67,921 posts
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    Maybe they all taste like Guinea Pigs.
  • Blaketown 24 Apr 2013 09:49:28 5,658 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    The bans carry over to different leagues so it could actually end up having a significant impact on his price, or even whether he goes at all.
    As someone pointed out on twitter, he was signed by Liverpool while serving a lengthy ban for biting. It's just how he leaves a club. It's like his version of throwing the microphone to the ground.
  • kentmonkey 24 Apr 2013 09:49:37 21,772 posts
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    At my junior school the teachers used to settle playground fights with a 'tit-for-tat' mentality. Without any tits.

    So for example, if somebody bit somebody and made them cry, they used to hold the biter still and let the person who was bit bite them back. Same with a punch. We did get a little excited once when one kid stamped on another kids head on the playground and made his head bleed, but they seemed to stop short of repeating that one.

    Could apply the same logic here. Would be quite amusing to see Bernstein holding Suarez in a headlock while Ivanovic bites him.
  • imamazed 24 Apr 2013 09:55:36 6,295 posts
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    kentmonkey wrote:
    At my junior school the teachers used to settle playground fights with a 'tit-for-tat' mentality. Without any tits.

    So for example, if somebody bit somebody and made them cry, they used to hold the biter still and let the person who was bit bite them back. Same with a punch. We did get a little excited once when one kid stamped on another kids head on the playground and made his head bleed, but they seemed to stop short of repeating that one.

    Could apply the same logic here. Would be quite amusing to see Bernstein holding Suarez in a headlock while Ivanovic bites him.
    Where the bloody hell did you go to school? In a Guy Ritchie film?
  • kentmonkey 24 Apr 2013 10:01:37 21,772 posts
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    @Shikasama Heh, no. But it was (and still is really) a fairly nasty, rough place in Kent and this sort of behaviour happened on a repeat basis. So I think they just gave up trying to sort it by the rules and just applied their own. It was quite violent - the science teacher got stabbed multiple times in class with the pointy end of a compass while he tried to batter the kid off with a telephone receiver. And in History you knew that if you weren't listening or were talking that you had to watch out for a flying chalkboard cleaner. They hurt when they hit. A French teacher (in secondary school now, so it didn't improve when you moved on to another school in the area) smashed a blackboard with a chair when the class weren't paying attention to him just to get their attention.

    So much of what happened there you couldn't make up. But then tt was over 20 years ago, and I'm sure they wouldn't get away with that approach now.

    Still, Luiz Suarez. Bit more off than he could chew this time.
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