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  • kalel 11 Apr 2013 14:27:15 87,627 posts
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    I still think I prefer the idea of Chelsea doing a deal with them for Torres in exchange, and then him turning out to be even worse than Torres.
  • graysonavich 11 Apr 2013 14:28:30 7,345 posts
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    Romario, Bebeto, Dunga... all names that we'd rush to "be" during playground football, even though they didn't win titles.
  • speedofthepuma 11 Apr 2013 14:28:47 13,299 posts
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    And Torres being good again.

    Edited by speedofthepuma at 14:30:25 11-04-2013

    I lurk. If I've spoken to you, I'm either impassioned, or drunk.

  • kalel 11 Apr 2013 14:30:07 87,627 posts
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    graysonavich wrote:
    Romario, Bebeto, Dunga... all names that we'd rush to "be" during playground football, even though they didn't win titles.
    That was the '94 team though wasn't it? I'm struggling to remember big players from the late 80s or early 90s
  • graysonavich 11 Apr 2013 14:31:30 7,345 posts
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    Hmm, only Socrates springs to mind from anything earlier.

    But probably mostly due to his appearance for Garthford Town...

    Edit: Who according to wiki was 79-86. I'm sure some of those I mentioned would have been more early 90s than 94 though.

    Edited by graysonavich at 14:33:07 11-04-2013
  • nickthegun 11 Apr 2013 14:32:20 59,908 posts
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    They always had two or three absolute worldbeaters in the team, players you would tun in to watch.

    I dont know if its because the rest of the world has caught up, but they look ordinary which I dont think anyone can remember being true.

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  • Syrette 11 Apr 2013 14:33:11 43,448 posts
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    Tom_Servo wrote:
    I know people always say the FIFA rankings are a load of old shit, but Brazil are... 19th!
    I think it's because they've hardly played any competitive matches dues to no qualification process for their own tournament.

  • kalel 11 Apr 2013 14:33:16 87,627 posts
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    Exactly, and Socrates was from the early 80s really. They definitely had a slight fall from grace before 94.
  • nickthegun 11 Apr 2013 14:35:23 59,908 posts
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    They had falcao and bebeto in the 80s

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  • kalel 11 Apr 2013 14:38:00 87,627 posts
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    Yes, but nobody really knew about them until '94.

    I'm not saying they weren't a top team, but it wasn't like the 90s and 00s. Argentina and Germany were really the ones you expected to win things, and even Italy, Holland (and actually England) were more highly rated around that time.
  • Dougs 11 Apr 2013 14:43:19 67,688 posts
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    Zico. Come on, Zico!
  • nickthegun 11 Apr 2013 14:43:24 59,908 posts
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    I think it was more the 'samba football' thing. They may not have won anything but you expected to be entertained.

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  • mcmonkeyplc 11 Apr 2013 14:45:15 39,456 posts
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    FWB wrote:
    Really need Brentford to get promotion and then make one final leap so I can have a local/West London club to support in the PL that isn't full of cocks.

    Just off second atm.
    I've been waiting for that to happen for about 17 years...

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • reddevil93 11 Apr 2013 14:45:51 11,732 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    They may not have won anything but you expected to be entertained.
    Bit like Liverpool so

  • kalel 11 Apr 2013 14:46:36 87,627 posts
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    Zico was 1970s no? I guess he might have played a bit in the 80s...
  • nickthegun 11 Apr 2013 14:47:59 59,908 posts
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    I very vaguely remember him playing in mexico 86. he must have been like 50.

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  • Dougs 11 Apr 2013 14:53:12 67,688 posts
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    1982 was when I remember him the most. By the looks of it, he'd have been 33 at the 86 WC.
  • Dougs 11 Apr 2013 14:54:46 67,688 posts
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    Oh, and let's not forget Josimar!
  • kalel 11 Apr 2013 14:56:22 87,627 posts
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    Again, it's really the kind of second half of the 80s to the first half of the 90s I'm talking about. There was about a decade ish when they weren't all that hot.
  • Dougs 11 Apr 2013 15:03:01 67,688 posts
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    Yeah, 1990 was quite poor, beaten by Argentina in the second round after Argentina finished 3rd in their group. But unlucky after winning all 3 in their group, who would have thought Argentina would struggle initially. Got to love Benjamin Massing

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_world_cup_squads#Brazil

    Of their squad, Dunga, Branco, Taffarel, Careca, Aldair are all pretty familiar to my hazy memory
  • graysonavich 11 Apr 2013 15:29:42 7,345 posts
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    I can't help but read their squad name in the voice of Barry Davis ala Actua Soccer on the PS1.
  • morriss 11 Apr 2013 15:48:16 70,976 posts
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    Aldair legend.
  • morriss 11 Apr 2013 15:49:21 70,976 posts
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    Who was the player who lobbed Jennings from the wing in '86?
  • DJCopa 11 Apr 2013 15:54:59 1,056 posts
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    Josimar, as Dougs mentions above.
  • Dougs 11 Apr 2013 15:57:02 67,688 posts
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    Less of a lob though, more a lazy rocket (if there is such a thing). One of my all time favourite goals purely due to the celebration
  • DJCopa 11 Apr 2013 15:58:15 1,056 posts
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    He was the hidden gem of that World Cup.
  • morriss 11 Apr 2013 15:58:19 70,976 posts
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    I kept on thinking Jarzinho.
  • motti82 11 Apr 2013 16:24:56 2,890 posts
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    I remember bits of Italia 90, but not of the football (I bought World in Motion and Nessun Dorma on vinyl singles, woop). I remember Gazza (we named one of our cats after him cos he kept crying all the time) but not of what he did on the pitch, just of the whole hysteria.

    4 years later, no England there but I remember players like Dunga, Bebeto (the baby celebration) and Romario, cos he was lethal for Brazil. Memories of the first FIFA game on the SNES/mega drive as well, and yeah, Brazil were not the powerhouses, it was more to do with Argentina, Germany, Italy and surprisingly, Sweden.
  • nickthegun 11 Apr 2013 16:42:46 59,908 posts
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    It makes me cry now that the baby the celebration was dedicated to is now playing for Brazil U20s

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  • The-Bodybuilder 11 Apr 2013 16:55:29 14,198 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    Falcao: Only Rennes' Pitroipa (98) has lost the ball due to a poor 1st touch more times than Falcao (81) in Europe's top 5 leagues this term.
    Interesting. Gonna love it if Chelsea spend a billion on this guy and he turns out to be shit.
    That's the kind of stat that is definately of worth when buying a player. In a league like the PL, he'll get eaten alive if he wastes a single 1st touch.

    Maybe also explains why a lot of top clubs overlooked him when he was at River Plate (we did for Eduardo).
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