Lol. The FA have just charged newcastles assistant manager with misconduct for having a go at mcmananamaman. Utter clowns.
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nickthegun 44,590 posts
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SparkyMarky81 265 posts
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Registered 4 years agoPfft. So much for the 'Respect' campaign. I'm sure respect is something you earn and in the case of officals, they do themselves no good at all.
I doubt many of the Toon players will have much respect for Halsey or his muppet linesmen after this shambles.
If McMananaman cant be charged, the idiot who saw the incident and decided it wasn't worthy of even a free kick deserves sacking for gross ineptitude.
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Registered 4 years agonickthegun wrote:
You couldn't make it up...
Lol. The FA have just charged newcastles assistant manager with misconduct for having a go at mcmananamaman. Utter clowns. -
Mr_Sleep 13,573 posts
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Registered 11 years agoI do hope Halsey doesn't get too much of the blame for this incident, from the camera angles it's pretty clear he couldn't see it. It's the lino on that side that is also, presumably, the one who considers it was fine.
I do start to wonder why it is they brought in this legislation. Is one to assume it was to benefit the referee? If so, things like this suggest the very idea of the rule to be pretty questionable. -
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Dougs 59,193 posts
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Registered 10 years agoecureuil wrote:
IF they didn't see the full extent of the challenge, then they didn't see it FFS! Mental. Agree with nick that GLT is just a peripheral issue, and there needs to be transparency and accountability. NUFC must be going nuts
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ecureuil 74,192 posts
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Registered 8 years agoMr_Sleep wrote:
They don't want to re-referee incidents, as they put it. The officials saw this, but if they go back and change the ref's decision, then why shouldn't they go back and change other decisions? It's a slippery slope. I don't agree with it but that's why they take a hard line on it.
I do start to wonder why it is they brought in this legislation. Is one to assume it was to benefit the referee? If so, things like this suggest the very idea of the rule to be pretty questionable. -
ecureuil 74,192 posts
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Registered 8 years agoDougs wrote:
Statement.ecureuil wrote:
IF they didn't see the full extent of the challenge, then they didn't see it FFS! Mental. Agree with nick that GLT is just a peripheral issue, and there needs to be transparency and accountability. NUFC must be going nuts
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enfilade 121 posts
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Registered 4 years agoWow. I mean, WOW.
Carver only went up to McManaman to give him an earful, it was actually the Wigan coach who bloody shoved him and kicked everything off!
I've never felt so angry about a couple of footballing decisions. What an absolute mess.
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enfilade 121 posts
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Registered 4 years agoecureuil wrote:
That statement is spot on. I really hope we follow through on this.Dougs wrote:
Statement.ecureuil wrote:
IF they didn't see the full extent of the challenge, then they didn't see it FFS! Mental. Agree with nick that GLT is just a peripheral issue, and there needs to be transparency and accountability. NUFC must be going nuts
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Mr_Sleep 13,573 posts
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Registered 11 years agoecureuil wrote:
It's a funny thing though, there's very little reason not to re-referee incidents that contain dangerous play. The so-called slippery slope can be avoided by simply containing it to serious foul play. They seem to make up rules to suit their own laziness and bureaucracy anyway so changing the rules wouldn't change that.Mr_Sleep wrote:
They don't want to re-referee incidents, as they put it. The officials saw this, but if they go back and change the ref's decision, then why shouldn't they go back and change other decisions? It's a slippery slope. I don't agree with it but that's why they take a hard line on it.
I do start to wonder why it is they brought in this legislation. Is one to assume it was to benefit the referee? If so, things like this suggest the very idea of the rule to be pretty questionable. -
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Registered 4 years agoMy colleague at work is adamant that there was nothing wrong with the tackle and Mac got the ball because it lightly scuffed him. -
Mr_Sleep 13,573 posts
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Registered 11 years agoI'm adamant that your colleague at work is an idiot. Either that or he's a troll. -
Dougs 59,193 posts
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Registered 10 years agoMr_sleep nails it imo
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oceanmotion 13,185 posts
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Registered 10 years agoMr_Sleep wrote:
It would probably mean they couldn't go to so many fancy meals, events or have a nice pay check, sack numurous England managers, piss money away on wrong youth direction, money hat world.cups etc. if they had to budget for such measures.ecureuil wrote:
It's a funny thing though, there's very little reason not to re-referee incidents that contain dangerous play. The so-called slippery slope can be avoided by simply containing it to serious foul play. They seem to make up rules to suit their own laziness and bureaucracy anyway so changing the rules wouldn't change that.Mr_Sleep wrote:
They don't want to re-referee incidents, as they put it. The officials saw this, but if they go back and change the ref's decision, then why shouldn't they go back and change other decisions? It's a slippery slope. I don't agree with it but that's why they take a hard line on it.
I do start to wonder why it is they brought in this legislation. Is one to assume it was to benefit the referee? If so, things like this suggest the very idea of the rule to be pretty questionable. -
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Registered 6 years agoDougs wrote:
Both seem fine to me.
Mr_sleep nails it imo
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Shikasama 4,620 posts
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Registered 4 years agoAgreed.
One of those fellas where it's pointless even having the discussion. His final triumphant point was 'I get tackled like that all the time and shrug it off'. -
SuperCoolEskimo 8,672 posts
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Registered 6 years agoHalsey should be blamed for not seeing the foul. What kind of thick ref runs in a line that causes his view of the play to be obscured? It's terrible refereeing and winds me up no end when refs can't make big calls because they've run into a position where they won't see incidents. -
LionheartDJH 18,603 posts
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Registered 3 years agonickthegun wrote:
Nope, he actually used it to defend McManaman:
Didnt Wheelan get his leg smashed in a bad tackle, leading to his retirement? You would have thought he'd take a bit of a firmer stance on it.
"When I broke my leg in the cup final it was exactly the same type of tackle," he said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21830721
"We both went for the ball. It brought back memories. It ruined my career. I am not going to criticise Norman Deeley.
"These things happen in football. He came over the ball but he didn't do it with the aim of breaking my leg."A wise man told me don't argue with fools
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Syrette 38,384 posts
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Registered 10 years agoLionheartDJH wrote:
nickthegun wrote:
Nope, he actually used it to defend McManaman:
Didnt Wheelan get his leg smashed in a bad tackle, leading to his retirement? You would have thought he'd take a bit of a firmer stance on it.
"When I broke my leg in the cup final it was exactly the same type of tackle," he said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21830721
"We both went for the ball. It brought back memories. It ruined my career. I am not going to criticise Norman Deeley.
"These things happen in football. He came over the ball but he didn't do it with the aim of breaking my leg."
Funnily enough, he said this in 2010 to the Lancashire Telegraph.
"Norman Deeley came right over the ball. Today he would have been sent off and banned for a long time. He came six inches over the ball, he came for me not the ball."
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EMULOUS 14 posts
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Absolutely agree. Halsey didnt see it, but the point is he SHOULD have seen it. And to rub salt into the wounds the lino did see it yet thought it was an acceptable challenge. They both should have the book thrown at them but no doubt will both be back working at the weekend. Disgusting.
Halsey should be blamed for not seeing the foul. What kind of thick ref runs in a line that causes his view of the play to be obscured? It's terrible refereeing and winds me up no end when refs can't make big calls because they've run into a position where they won't see incidents. -
ecureuil 74,192 posts
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I think his positioning was fine, there are 20 other outfield players out there who could potentially obscure his view at any time. Refs will always miss certain things, which is why the laws need to cover issues like this instead of hiding from them.
Halsey should be blamed for not seeing the foul. What kind of thick ref runs in a line that causes his view of the play to be obscured? It's terrible refereeing and winds me up no end when refs can't make big calls because they've run into a position where they won't see incidents. -
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Registered 10 years agoecureuil wrote:
Great of the FA to tell the press well before they told Newcastle, shows where their priorities lie.Dougs wrote:
Statement.ecureuil wrote:
IF they didn't see the full extent of the challenge, then they didn't see it FFS! Mental. Agree with nick that GLT is just a peripheral issue, and there needs to be transparency and accountability. NUFC must be going nuts
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ecureuil 74,192 posts
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Sorry but no. Not that I like defending referees but he doesn't decide where the players go, if someone runs across his field of vision at the exact moment of the tackle what's he supposed to do? This will always happen. To think that a ref should have a perfect view of every incident at all times shows a lack of understanding of the job of a referee tbh.SuperCoolEskimo wrote:
Absolutely agree. Halsey didnt see it, but the point is he SHOULD have seen it.
Halsey should be blamed for not seeing the foul. What kind of thick ref runs in a line that causes his view of the play to be obscured? It's terrible refereeing and winds me up no end when refs can't make big calls because they've run into a position where they won't see incidents. -
Syrette 38,384 posts
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Dave Whelan remains angry at what he feels was a bad tackle by Norman Deeley. Forty-five years later, several newspapers quoted him after a reckless challenge by Chelsea’s Michael Essien on Liverpool’s Dietmar Hamann during a European Champions League game in December 2005 “the worst tackle I’ve seen for a long time. You can’t go over the top like that. It was so dangerous. It has no place in football. How Hamann didn’t break his leg, I’ll never know.
“Essien’s tackle was like the one that broke my leg in the Cup Final in 1960. Norman Deeley went over the top, but it was different then, there were no TV replays. The referee didn’t even give a foul, but it absolutely finished me. It was a nasty tackle.”XBL: rolemodel86 PSN: Syrette86
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teamHAM 1,483 posts
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Registered 5 years agoIt's utter garbage. Even the comparisons with Nani are garbage. The guy that did all the rolling around on the Nani challenge just got up after about 10 seconds. Haidara could be out until Christmas, or god forbid even longer.
And fair play to the club for going "yeah, we found out on Sky Sports News before the FA even bothered to tell us". Complete shambles.
I mean obviously even if he gets banned it doesn't erase what was a shambolic game for us. With this challenge and the handball both missed we were well and truly stiffed.
Isn't this year supposedly the big celebratory year of the FA? Awesome way to show that 150 years later you are still the righteous and just pillars of the game.
And don't even get me started on the complete drivel that Martinez and Whelan have been coming out with all week. Detestable little club.
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convz 208 posts
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Registered 2 years agoWhilst it was undoubtedly poor refereeing from Hasley, I agree with ecureuil that it's unreasonable to expect a referee to always have a perfect view of every incident - and that's what the assistants are there for.
The far more shocking thing is that the FA haven't taken any action for the tackle... a horrific challenge that it seems everyone unanimously agrees he should get at least a 3 match ban for. I don't like the ruling that 'the referee has already dealt with it' - clearly he hasn't else he would have sent the player off, as proven by him apologising after the game to Pardew!
On a completely unrelated note, I'm just watching a video of Hazard vs West Ham - a few pages back someone asked what is wrong with Chelsea fans that they would cheer a robana that went to the other team, well watch this and you'll see why I and every one around me thought the play warranted applause! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlqY2GJWOwk&hd=1#t=4m58s -
Trowel 15,038 posts
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Registered 10 years agoconvz wrote:
Not really. Just fucking hit it.
On a completely unrelated note, I'm just watching a video of Hazard vs West Ham - a few pages back someone asked what is wrong with Chelsea fans that they would cheer a robana that went to the other team, well watch this and you'll see why I and every one around me thought the play warranted applause! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlqY2GJWOwk&hd=1#t=4m58s -
nickthegun 44,590 posts
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Registered 7 years agoIts why we have 'assistant referees' so if halsey didnt see it they should have.
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As mentioned though, it's the complete lack of accountability. It's fair enough that he missed it, but one of them saw it and deemed it OK, so what happens to them, when it was blatantly wrong?
Edit: Nick beat me to it
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