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  • RedSparrows 25 Feb 2013 18:29:07 22,275 posts
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    TOOTR wrote:
    @RedSparrows Mate - really happy you are seshing this finally. I would love to hear some blog style reactions to some of the games moments and adventures from you if you can be arsed :)

    I wish I'd taken time to record my first few playthrough reactions - golden moments, some extremely inventive profanities and a lot of pride :)

    It's simply one of the most brilliant games ever.
    Defeated the boss on that wall. My reaction was 'DIE YOU FUCKER', if that's a good enough one. Heart was beating!

    Then I got knocked off a cliff by some rats. But I had levelled up and opened up a shortcut, so all was good.
  • FanBoysSuck 25 Feb 2013 18:35:29 1,471 posts
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    Goodfella wrote:
    quadfather wrote:
    @evild_edd - you'll click, don't worry. Actually it sounds like you've almost clicked.

    Come in here and ask questions and it'll be fine. In fact, it'll be better than fine - yoyre about to embrace possibly one of the best games and EG threads ever created.
    Fixed. :D
    This!

    For the emperor!

  • RedSparrows 25 Feb 2013 19:44:14 22,275 posts
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    And then I sprinted between a dragon's legs. Worked nicely, although I realise it was not needed, other than for a bonfire.
  • evild_edd 25 Feb 2013 19:50:50 3,075 posts
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    @FanBoysSuck

    "What level are you? I made a faith build specifically for helping people out. It's a bit of a shame that a lot of the community leans towards invading these days. I've helped quite a few people out but it always seems to be the same 5 odd people catching up with me!"

    I'm on level 12 (might be 13) at the minute. Just done a little grinding to up my dexterity so I can use the bow.

    Don't worry, had found the wiki already, so now just a case of using it but not too much :0)

    Why look, it's a blog:
    http://www.edwardlaven.blogspot.co.uk

  • evild_edd 25 Feb 2013 20:04:07 3,075 posts
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    @M83J01P97

    "You've gone into Dark Souls with too many modern day gaming preconceptions sadly"

    Well, I did go on to say that I was still finding it compelling. I deliberately called the design choices 'frustrating' rather than poor / stupid / wrong - I acknowledge that these were a deliberate choice by the developers. Totally respect that, whilst still finding it frustrating.

    Frustration isn't a bad thing however. In fact, it's something gaming can invoke better than any other creative industry. I've recently been playing a lot of Spelunky, which has the same level of self-discovery, experimentation, and punishment. Spelunky is my game of 2012 and one of my titles of this generation, so a little frustration won't put me off.

    I shall persevere :0)

    Why look, it's a blog:
    http://www.edwardlaven.blogspot.co.uk

  • evild_edd 25 Feb 2013 20:05:38 3,075 posts
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    M83J01P97 wrote:

    Basically, in your first play through, the only reason you should 'go human' is to kindle bonfires, then find a safe place to kill yourself to go back to hollow and carry on.

    Thanks for the advice - I'll stick to this!

    Why look, it's a blog:
    http://www.edwardlaven.blogspot.co.uk

  • evild_edd 25 Feb 2013 20:11:03 3,075 posts
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    Oh, and one final post: thanks for the advice and encouragement everyone! Was sort of expecting, as the noobie, to be mostly ignored by everyone who's long since mastered this title. Nice to find people so enthusiastic about a game that they're willing to take the time to go through the basics :0)

    I'll try not to spam the thread after the many inevitable and repeated deaths - I do want to feel like I've completed the game due to my own endeavour rather than just having a my hand held every step. All about that balance!

    Why look, it's a blog:
    http://www.edwardlaven.blogspot.co.uk

  • quadfather 25 Feb 2013 20:23:30 11,978 posts
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    @evild_edd - not at all. Spam to your hearts content. That's what we're here for :-)

    psn quaddy456, Dark Souls tips

  • quadfather 25 Feb 2013 20:24:11 11,978 posts
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    RedSparrows wrote:
    TOOTR wrote:
    @RedSparrows Mate - really happy you are seshing this finally. I would love to hear some blog style reactions to some of the games moments and adventures from you if you can be arsed :)

    I wish I'd taken time to record my first few playthrough reactions - golden moments, some extremely inventive profanities and a lot of pride :)

    It's simply one of the most brilliant games ever.
    Defeated the boss on that wall. My reaction was 'DIE YOU FUCKER', if that's a good enough one. Heart was beating!

    Then I got knocked off a cliff by some rats. But I had levelled up and opened up a shortcut, so all was good.
    This sounds like a decent dark souls player :)

    psn quaddy456, Dark Souls tips

  • Dangerous_Dan 25 Feb 2013 20:28:34 2,380 posts
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    People are hungry to dish out advice in this thread - you'll have to tell them to not spoil it too much for you.
    My advice, explore and retreat and invest your souls, most importantly in upgrading your gear but that comes later for you I guess. It's normal to spend 10 hours in the first 2 sections or so, if you don't spoil the game by reading or watching walkthroughs. It's about learning about the game - there is a lot to discover - try out different weapons. What's the advantage of heavy armour, can I stun my enemies, does it matter if I attack my enemy with a two-handed weapon and so on. Read item descriptions in your menu, they often tell useful stuff.
  • Mr_Sleep 25 Feb 2013 20:59:16 16,933 posts
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    RedSparrows wrote:
    And then I sprinted between a dragon's legs. Worked nicely, although I realise it was not needed, other than for a bonfire.
    Hah, brilliant, I didn't realise that could be done until much later. There's a rather excellent weapon hanging around there.

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • quadfather 25 Feb 2013 21:06:36 11,978 posts
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    But it's nice to know about the things that you'd never come across (albeit without hundreds of hours until you worked it out) that can be quite refreshing given a nudge in the right direction

    still, what do I know, I'm a tad drunk, and rambling, so there you go :)

    psn quaddy456, Dark Souls tips

  • Dangerous_Dan 25 Feb 2013 21:10:56 2,380 posts
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    That's one of the things you are supposed to do, plant a tree, getting drunk, play Dark Souls,...
  • Mr_Sleep 25 Feb 2013 21:22:09 16,933 posts
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    It's definitely worth mentioning some of the weapons and things one might not notice like the Claymore, it just depends. It's definitely worth mentioning the two somewhat hidden bonfires in TToGs as that area is fucking annoying and without them can be a real bastard.

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • RedSparrows 25 Feb 2013 21:31:10 22,275 posts
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    I got the claymore, but I think I probably need to wear less armour to use it effectively. Currently, my sword/shield combo is fine.

    Just stabbed a big armoured bearcow in the ass. That was unpleasant.
  • Mr_Sleep 25 Feb 2013 22:30:06 16,933 posts
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    The claymore comes into its own later really. I'd suggest you start considering what type of character you want to go for as weapon upgrading and the resources it requires can be a bit scarce at times.

    You are a factory of sadness.

  • quadfather 25 Feb 2013 22:33:40 11,978 posts
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    and go for dex or strength, not both

    psn quaddy456, Dark Souls tips

  • puddleduck 25 Feb 2013 22:50:51 1,853 posts
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    Bah, first playthrough go dexterity and strength. Fuck magic and faith as you'll probably never find the high level offensive spells anyway. Just go dex/str/vit/end so you can use nearly all the weapons you find. Once you find out what type you like most, start specialising on your second playthrough onwards :)
  • FanBoysSuck 25 Feb 2013 23:41:01 1,471 posts
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    I think I may have come across one of the fabled monsters spawned from a dropped item.. Totalling almost 200 hours now and an enemy I've never fought before. It looked like a red crab with silver on and it cast homing magic. Crazy stuff!

    For the emperor!

  • FanBoysSuck 25 Feb 2013 23:46:40 1,471 posts
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    evild_edd wrote:
    @FanBoysSuck

    "What level are you? I made a faith build specifically for helping people out. It's a bit of a shame that a lot of the community leans towards invading these days. I've helped quite a few people out but it always seems to be the same 5 odd people catching up with me!"

    I'm on level 12 (might be 13) at the minute. Just done a little grinding to up my dexterity so I can use the bow.

    Don't worry, had found the wiki already, so now just a case of using it but not too much :0)
    Good show! I checked my character and I'm at...level 70. I think I may have got carried away with the summonings a bit. I won't be much help until you're at about the half way point unfortunately.

    As others have said stick to an offensive stat while pumping vit and end. Get that pyro glove upgraded as well. I can't speak for magic but pure faith is not recommended for beginners!

    For the emperor!

  • Puppaz 26 Feb 2013 00:19:40 323 posts
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    @FanBoysSuck That odd enemy may have been from a gravelord covenant player sending extra nasties into random people's games, it sounds like one I met, and that was def. from a gravelord.
  • puddleduck 26 Feb 2013 07:27:47 1,853 posts
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    It's a vagrant if it looks like a crab :) No ones really that sure what causes them still. Different to gravelord enemies :)
  • FanBoysSuck 26 Feb 2013 08:57:16 1,471 posts
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    @puddleduck See this is what I though.

    I don't believe there's still stuff that people are trying to work out! Hopefully everything will be documented in time for Dark Souls 2.

    For the emperor!

  • mumtoucher 26 Feb 2013 09:01:07 265 posts
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    Well it's just Gwyn for me now, all other content has been devoured. After my cocky kill on first attempt with the 4 kings I feel I strolled down the kiln or whatever it's called - this was of no concern to my, eager for the challenge of those oh so shit scary at the start of the game black knights.... (You guys should of seen the fear in my eyes when I first squared up against the one in the undead burg, most fear I've felt in any video game. Ever!) I literally spat in their stupid deranged faces as I tore them new assholes with my divine claymore. Back flipping around their slow predictive attacks. As I stepped through the grey cloud and the ominous piano music commenced I literally uttered 'come and get it you fucker' under my breath, so sure was I of my victory against Gwyn......

    Well what an arrogant prick my character has become, Gwyn has now smashed my stupid undead face in at least 10 times. I have got his health down below half once by rather embarrassingly cheesing him around some rock outcrops. Time for a rethink me thinks.

    I love how this game has taught me lessons at every level, everytime I feel I'm in control it kicks my sorry ass into submission. Amazing.
  • Dangerous_Dan 26 Feb 2013 09:08:58 2,380 posts
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    @mumtoucher Before you enter his lair, equip your heaviest armour, you want poise and protection, equip a good parry shield, like the heater shield or the black knight shield (good vs his fire damage).
    Then learn his patterns. He has a grab attack, this one you have to dodge or move away from in time, other than that do the following.

    He has a multitude of attack patterns and they come in rather quickly, he either goes for a two hit or three hit or maybe even four hit combo - no matter. Your best bet is to block the first attack of his combo and parry his follow up hit. That way you have a very good sense of timing. Heal after you did a successful riposte, or if you get too weak, move back to the stone pillars and try to make him waste one of his attacks, hiding behind a stone pillar and heal.
  • mumtoucher 26 Feb 2013 09:29:56 265 posts
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    thanks dude, first step then black knight shield +5
  • evild_edd 26 Feb 2013 10:56:52 3,075 posts
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    FanBoysSuck wrote:

    Good show! I checked my character and I'm at...level 70. I think I may have got carried away with the summonings a bit. I won't be much help until you're at about the half way point unfortunately.

    As others have said stick to an offensive stat while pumping vit and end. Get that pyro glove upgraded as well. I can't speak for magic but pure faith is not recommended for beginners!
    Well, I've taken care of what I think is the first boss (horned thing with a club, attacks you on top of a wall - drop attack and hacked away worked well) then I've got some crazy sword by following some of the written advice points and shooting the tail of some (currently?) unkillable dragon from the bottom of a bridge. Since then I've worked my way onward, killed some boar thing, a few nimble knights, and three massive (non-spawning) knights including a black armoured one in a church. Now reached another campfire (kindled) and found the blacksmith.

    After all that, I assume I must be nearing the half way mark....right? ;0)

    Speaking to the blacksmith I think I've got my head around the upgrade system. I've bought a weapon/grind box thing for future use.

    Question: is it worth bothering fortifying standard weapons? My bow is a bit naff so I'm putting some thought into upgrading that...?

    As for leveling - I'm keeping things fairly even, but I like the nimble/dexterous approach (better for running away!) I got my faith up to 12 so I could cast my healing spells (useful for deeper foraging into enemy territory) but think I'll generally keep the vit/strength/dex/endurance topped up.

    Why look, it's a blog:
    http://www.edwardlaven.blogspot.co.uk

  • quadfather 26 Feb 2013 11:05:25 11,978 posts
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    @evild_edd - sounds like really good progress to me.

    Make sure you pick up the item near that large black armoured knight in the chuch, and save it for now.

    Half way mark? Chortle :-)

    It's certainly worth upgrading standard weapons - you can take a lot of them to +15 (although the materials to take it from 14 to 15 are fairly rare). I'd have a play about with a few different types first, and then pick one (or a few) that you're happy using. You can take anything up to +5 as that just costs titanite shards (9), which you can buy with souls so you're not really wasting anything.

    dont forget to upgrade your armour too, and mix and match bits to get the best protection you can overall.

    Stat wise that sounds fine. You can't really go wrong with endurance and vitality, and if you like the nimble approach, go-go dex :)

    psn quaddy456, Dark Souls tips

  • TOOTR 26 Feb 2013 15:01:18 9,522 posts
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    Can't repeat this enough to anyone embarking on the journey - Dark Souls is not something to be rushed through and 'finished' and move onto the next. Tis something to be savoured.

    Everybody should just calm down a little bit and have a nice cup of tea.

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