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  • oceanmotion 5 Sep 2010 13:04:29 15,662 posts
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    Windows Phone 7 released to manufacturing.

    Expected to be available in October in Europe and November for those in the US. That must be a first.

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    A review with some videos

    Anyone going to take the plunge or wait it out a bit ?

    Seems to be missing a few things but hopefully they update fast and get lots of support.
  • Dirtbox 5 Sep 2010 13:08:44 77,475 posts
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    Meant to be utter shit, as discussed at length here.

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  • oceanmotion 5 Sep 2010 13:13:14 15,662 posts
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    I don't think it will be shit. Might take a bit of time to get going. I don't think MS can let it fail. Interface is different which I don't mind, looks quite nice but I will need to see how well it actually functions. Just like other companies, they can really do well with their own apps which should give it a leg up in some areas. Some hefty competition for the others, it will be interesting to see how the landscape is in a year or two.
  • Deleted user 5 September 2010 13:17:38
    May as well slap this in here too..


    Windows Phone 7 a 'disaster'.

    After reading this recently I put all thoughts of Phone 7 out of my mind. Not that I'm a expert or anything. Had Sony/Erikson for years and recently switched to a 3GS.
  • BartonFink 5 Sep 2010 13:28:06 34,853 posts
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    MS have completely missed the boat on this and really should consider just leaving this space altogether. As DB and greggy point out this has been discussed at length in various demos and previews and it does indeed look and smell like turd of the unpolished kind.

    Android on the other hand looks like it's definitely the way forward (assuming they can capture hearts and minds with Android Market).
  • Dirtbox 5 Sep 2010 13:30:36 77,475 posts
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    I'm liking PalmOS a lot more than anything else at the moment, but then it's all down to third party support when it comes down to it.

    Much like consoles, I don't think there's room for more than a couple of big players and someone else doing their own thing on the side.

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  • oceanmotion 5 Sep 2010 13:56:47 15,662 posts
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    BartonFink wrote:
    MS have completely missed the boat on this and really should consider just leaving this space altogether. As DB and greggy point out this has been discussed at length in various demos and previews and it does indeed look and smell like turd of the unpolished kind.

    Android on the other hand looks like it's definitely the way forward (assuming they can capture hearts and minds with Android Market).

    Bit harsh when it isn't even out yet. No doubt they are playing catch up and maybe should have aimed the feature set in the future rather than in the past. Wait and see, could go either way. They need to in the mobile space, it would be daft to think otherwise.
  • oceanmotion 5 Sep 2010 14:01:38 15,662 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    I'm liking PalmOS a lot more than anything else at the moment, but then it's all down to third party support when it comes down to it.

    Much like consoles, I don't think there's room for more than a couple of big players and someone else doing their own thing on the side.

    My mate had a Palm Pre, I thought it was quite slick and well thought out. Pity it doesn't get much mass recognition. Wait and see what HP do with it. Might be a cool in tablet form.
  • Red-Moose 5 Sep 2010 14:51:05 5,346 posts
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    Greggywocky... wrote:
    May as well slap this in here too..


    Windows Phone 7 a 'disaster'.

    After reading this recently I put all thoughts of Phone 7 out of my mind. Not that I'm a expert or anything. Had Sony/Erikson for years and recently switched to a 3GS.

    That is pretty damning, along with Samsung's Galaxy S flagship being Android, and something I read earlier suggesting Samsung not being too keen on WM7 could spell trouble. With no Samsung, they have to get LG to do the big legwork and I don't think that is going to go up against Apple in the marketing/branding world of the mobiel phone.

  • lovely2cu 5 Sep 2010 15:20:12 1,194 posts
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    BartonFink wrote:
    MS have completely missed the boat on this and really should consider just leaving this space altogether.
    Really? The consumer smartphone market is barely 3 years old (see iPhone's release in 2007). And native Office and Exchange integration alone will give it a leg up with enterprise. It'll be an uphill climb, sure, but missed the boat? The Xbox was even later to the videogame...game (or, it could go the way of the Zune players, but let's wait and see first, eh?).

    As DB and greggy point out this has been discussed at length in various demos and previews and it does indeed look and smell like turd of the unpolished kind.
    In what way? That certainly isn't the impression I've gotten from the videos I've watched, and previews I've read. Most have been cautiously favourable (flash, copy and paste and developer app support being the main wait-and-see's).

    WooHoo!!! wrote:
    Anyone going to take the plunge or wait it out a bit ?
    I'm considering taking the plunge, but I'll decide after my current contract expires in a couple of months.
  • Dirtbox 5 Sep 2010 15:24:17 77,475 posts
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    lovely2cu wrote:
    In what way? That certainly isn't the impression I've gotten from the videos I've watched, and previews I've read. Most have been cautiously favourable (copy and paste and developer app support being the main wait-and-see's).
    Read the article that's linked in this thread then.

    I'm with you on the wait and see, but if half the things are true, and it's fairly safe to say they are given the author's unbiased, but direct criticism of all companies, then it's not looking good.

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  • lovely2cu 5 Sep 2010 15:34:41 1,194 posts
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    Windows Phone 7 is a solid product...The platform is solid and I've fallen in love with it

    From the OP review link. And that's been the general tone of most of the previews I've watched and read. Why is that one Guardian article being taken as the final word?
  • Red-Moose 5 Sep 2010 15:56:24 5,346 posts
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    Because if you have a Macbook Pro, iPhone and spend your Saturday afternoons reading the Guardian while *in* Starbucks you don't want to see something unthinkable like a Windows 7 mobile while you get your frappolatte.
  • lovely2cu 10 Sep 2010 20:48:41 1,194 posts
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    Start Screen

    Photography

    Phone

    Text Messaging

    Web Browser

    Email

    Bing Maps

    Desktop Syncronization

    Xbox Live
  • Vice.Destroyer 11 Sep 2010 00:25:16 5,823 posts
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    Did you see the Engadget story covering the Microsoft celebration that Windows 7 has gone RTM? It's bizarre in the extreme.
  • Deleted user 11 September 2010 00:26:21
    It's arse by all accounts, shame.
  • Psychotext 11 Sep 2010 00:30:27 53,846 posts
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    Looking forward to getting my hands on one of these. Hardware wise none of the current smartphones do it for me.
  • Deleted user 11 September 2010 00:33:07
    I'll be playing with every type of android on the monday if your interested, don't expect indepth as I don't care much for any phones.
  • PearOfAnguish 11 Sep 2010 01:06:55 7,144 posts
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    That contract centric thing is bizarre, does anyone give that much of a shit about what their friends are doing that they need constant updates on their phone?
  • The-Bodybuilder 11 Sep 2010 01:11:39 14,071 posts
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    If there's one thing I've learnt, the mobile industry have bigger fanboy than the games, the difference is that the majority are mature and tend to hide their bias better (rather than the typical 14 year old gamer fanboy). apple fanboys all disguise themselves, or just anti-MS people.
    I don't even trust guardian, as they've admitted to having a bias for apple before.

    All previews I've read have been positive, bar certain issues. I'm a certifies android user, but I still have my eye on this. I'm trying to convince o2 to replace my borked galaxy with either a galaxy s or desire. Then I MAY use my upgrade on wp7.

    What will decide it is the availability and number of apps at launch and in production.


    either way, the HTC HD7 is looking very desirable .
  • Red-Moose 11 Sep 2010 01:48:45 5,346 posts
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    Vice.Destroyer wrote:
    Did you see the Engadget story covering the Microsoft celebration that Windows 7 has gone RTM? It's bizarre in the extreme.

    The Thriller bit was quite good I thought, good effort.
  • lovely2cu 11 Sep 2010 11:35:38 1,194 posts
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    The Bodybuilder wrote:
    If there's one thing I've learnt, the mobile industry have bigger fanboy than the games...I don't even trust guardian, as they've admitted to having a bias for apple before...All previews I've read have been positive, bar certain issues
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  • Dirtbox 11 Sep 2010 11:42:26 77,475 posts
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    Well, there is only one real breakdown of it available at the moment so it could go either way, but it doesn't look favourable. Especially with the latest delay they had to announce a few weeks ago putting the whole thing back nearly a year.

    You have to concede that at least.

    okay, you edit that.

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  • lovely2cu 11 Sep 2010 11:47:29 1,194 posts
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    No I don't concede that, because that isn't the tone of 99% of the articles I've read and videos I've watched. I really don't know where you're getting this opinion from, other than that Guardian piece.

    Watch the links I posted above.
  • Dirtbox 11 Sep 2010 11:49:24 77,475 posts
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    It's a clear cut case of wait and see. It's obviously got a long way to come to match android and iphone, but it looks like they're taking criticism on board.

    They announced a delay recently, you'll be lucky to see one this time next year, so your videos are likely nothing like the end product.

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  • lovely2cu 11 Sep 2010 12:08:51 1,194 posts
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  • lovely2cu 11 Sep 2010 12:12:39 1,194 posts
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    What delay? The word is it's due to launch October 11th.
  • JammyB 11 Sep 2010 12:33:07 756 posts
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    As I said in the last thread, the worst bit about this phone is the browser. I've seen conflicting reports stating that it's somewhere between IE6 and IE7 in terms of capability, others saying it's between IE7 and IE8. Either way this is a huge failure - a browser that can't run flash, nor HTML5 video/audio content, and will be effectively locked out of a lot of modern internet content such as Youtube.

    Samsung themselves said that they expect the demand for Win Phone 7 to be "professional, specialised demand". It hardly instills confidence. Obviously things can change, but I'd be wary about being an early adopter on this (or any phone for that matter).
  • mcmonkeyplc 11 Sep 2010 12:40:26 39,387 posts
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    Vice.Destroyer wrote:
    Did you see the Engadget story covering the Microsoft celebration that Windows 7 has gone RTM? It's bizarre in the extreme.

    What the lols?!

    As for it being wank, I dont trust the guardian when it comes to products that compete with apple.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • lovely2cu 11 Sep 2010 12:41:07 1,194 posts
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    Yeah, lack of Flash/YouTube is one of those "issues" I and Boodybuilder have alluded to, in amongst the generally favourable early impressions. It's been confirmed as being on the way, but how soon after launch that will be is anyone's guess.
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