Meh, that section is quick and easy once you have your routine worked out.
It makes for a pretty good Contract too.
It makes for a pretty good Contract too.
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darkmorgado 22,594 posts
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Shikasama 4,620 posts
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Registered 4 years agoAll I wanted to do was travel the world, meet new people...then kill them.
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darkmorgado 22,594 posts
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Registered 4 years agoShikasama wrote:
Hang on, you're only on Rosewood?
All I wanted to do was travel the world, meet new people...then kill them.
IS THAT SO WRONG
Dude, you haven't even got through the first act. You're not even a third of the way through the game (more like 1/6th)! I thought by how vocally you were putting forward all your complaints they were based on a wider, more complete experience of the game as a whole, not just by what is basically just the opening handful of levels setting up all the really good ones! You haven't even experienced the glory of Shaving Lenny!
Perservere mate. Get through Rosewood, and you have a series of belters coming your way, before another brief disappointment in Dexter Industries followed by some more belters.
And those shit levels? They seriously come into their own on Contracts mode.
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Shikasama 4,620 posts
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Registered 4 years agoHow vocally I was putting forward all of my complaints?
I said I enjoyed the Hitman stuff but thought the no scoring police zones were crap and the fuse collecitng is crap. It's hardly burning at the stake.
I think I'm just going to drop the difficulty. How tightly they pack the enemies on Hard is getting to the point of ridiculous when your trying to get the silent assasin/infiltrator/suit only stuff.
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darkmorgado 22,594 posts
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Registered 4 years agoWell you mentioned the prominence of being on the run from the police for one, and the lack of killing levels.
Those things are only prominent and lacking (respectively) because your only frame of reference is a very small slice of the game so far.gif)
In other words, it gets better!
And honestly, at some point try the "shit" levels in Contracts mode and suddenly they become classic hitman levels rife with possibilities - only because of the nature of Contracts, they are no longer one level but a near-infinite number of different levels within the confines of one geographical space - i.e, an absolute tonne of good levels full to bursting with head-scratchy hitman goodness.
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Well the balance changes they are making to suspicion/disguises should take the edge off that once the patch goes live (though,and I'm not bragging here, I haven't really had too much problem on Hard at all. Areas are much thicker with enemies making them harder, but they are still perfectly doable with good timing and observation and a bit more forward planning and patience. And I'm one of those gaming sadists that actually gets more enjoyment from besting an unforgiving/borderline unfair challenge. It gives me that David and Goliath feeling of triumph against the odds). But not only will you have fewer guards (meaning, I think, if you go to make a contract in it later then you will have fewer potential targets to play with), but also - at least on Rosewood - your path through will totally change because the placement of one of the fuses will change, bypassing one area completely (arguably the hardest one in that section) because you no longer have any need to go there (unless you're looking to get the evidence).
I think I'm just going to drop the difficulty. How tightly they pack the enemies on Hard is getting to the point of ridiculous when your trying to get the silent assasin/infiltrator/suit only stuff.
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ZizouFC 4,958 posts
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Registered 4 years agoYeah I'm in Dexter Industries now. Not a fan but I am enjoying the chance to practice my sneaking skills for when I go Suit Only next playthrough. I am getting better. I had no idea that instinct didn't deplete when you're just looking around,only when blending in!
Looking forward to some proper Hitman levels after this.
Oh and thanks for the tips, DM. I'll address them properly when I get to a PC..gif)
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fletch7100 4,838 posts
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Not too Bothered by DLC for this. Trade in and get as much value as I can against Far Cry 3. If DLC is good will just rent it from Lovefilm. Completed it and got all 1000gs, first time I have done that in ages. Still haven't fully completed Blood money yet
That King of Chinatown level stills pisses me off. With fully mastered and purist difficulty, got the accident kill using drop dead challenge, got the evidence, no one else killed or Hurt, stayed in the suit for the whole level still only get 269,100 points(used 3 different versions of the poisoned kill which gave me the same score and a different way of blowing the car up stupid way actually) Still short by 800 points of the top scores on the SP global leader board. No idea what those players are doing to get the extra points
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jack24 283 posts
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Registered 5 years agoDoes no one else think that changing the disguise suystem will break this game's mechanics? It seems fairly clear that if you're trespassing with a disguise that they want you to still generally remain hidden but you just have a bit more leeway. If you could just wander around like older hitmans I would imagine the levels are going to reveal themselves as being alot smaller than they seem! -
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Registered 4 years agoZizouFC wrote:
Yeah it took me a while to realise that on instinct too, the game doesn't make it clear what uses instinct and what doesn't, it just sort of implies that instinct will always deplete whenever you use the button, when really it only depletes when you're actively "blending in".
Yeah I'm in Dexter Industries now. Not a fan but I am enjoying the chance to practice my sneaking skills for when I go Suit Only next playthrough. I am getting better. I had no idea that instinct didn't deplete when you're just looking around,only when blending in!
Looking forward to some proper Hitman levels after this.
Oh and thanks for the tips, DM. I'll address them properly when I get to a PC.
Not an awful lot of help on Purist or if you've disabled all those bits via the menu options of course, but it can save your bacon on Hard by giving you a helping hand with getting your timing down and surroundings down when sneaking around.
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Depending on how you're killing him you might not be getting the silent kill and hidden body bonus. Staying in suit and accident kills aren't actually getting you bonus points either... -
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Instead of Drop Dead, try the Man Down challenge. It should save you a little bit of time by cutting out the manual labour needed to hide the body after the kill, resulting in a quicker exit and a higher time bonus. That might be where you're going wrong (obviously get the evidence before the kill, because time starts ticking once you've made your kill and it's all about the time bonus baby)
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Registered 9 years agoDM you are actually putting me off this even more with your boundless and detailed enthusiasm. -
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Registered 4 years agojack24 wrote:
Accident kills will get him a challenge complete bonus (target killed + accident + (potentially) body hidden + mastery bonus). Grabbing the evidence first will get the evidence bonus. Suit only will get the challenge bonus. Not spotted + undetected body will get Silent Assassin. And you can get the hidden body bonus without hiding him manually. And of course the faster the exit after the kill = the higher the time bonus.
@fletch7100
Depending on how you're killing him you might not be getting the silent kill and hidden body bonus. Staying in suit and accident kills aren't actually getting you bonus points either...
I have a feeling, if he does all of that, he will see his score go up to a more competitive; potentially winning lead over the opposition.Now with 80% more Cthulhu!
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fletch7100 4,838 posts
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Well Hitman is about accident kills being the top graded kill. The police reported it as an accident and no evidence to link it to me Got the silent assassin point bonus, signature kill etc, never spotted during the level
Just want to know where these players get extra 800 points from when I preformed a prefect accident kill, never spotted, no witnesses and recovered the evidence. I played it on purist difficulty and with the fully mastered level bonus as well
If I hid the body only extra 350 points or so
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darkmorgado 22,594 posts
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glol!
DM you are actually putting me off this even more with your boundless and detailed enthusiasm.
Just imagine my big, goon-like grin plastered all over my face whilst playing.Now with 80% more Cthulhu!
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Great now I'm never going to finish it.smoothpete wrote:
glol!
DM you are actually putting me off this even more with your boundless and detailed enthusiasm.
Just imagine my big, goon-like grin plastered all over my face whilst playing.
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darkmorgado 22,594 posts
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Hide body, but try the kill I outlined above that means you don't have to hide the body to get the bonus (it makes sense once you do it, trust me). This means you will get the bonus without those points being cancelled out by an even greater amount (resulting in an actual net loss instead of a gain) by the longer time it will take you to get the exit by doing it manually.
@jack24
Well Hitman is about accident kills being the top graded kill. The police reported it as an accident and no evidence to link it to me Got the silent assassin point bonus, signature kill etc, never spotted during the level
Just want to know where these players get extra 800 points from when I preformed a prefect accident kill, never spotted, no witnesses and recovered the evidence. I played it on purist difficulty and with the fully mastered level bonus as well
If I hid the body only extra 350 points or so
Just got me wondering what else I can do on that level.
I also have a feeling (well, sort of memory, I might be wrong) you will get points for the act of poisoning the various things in the level alone even if they aren't what then kills the target.
So I think your route needs to be evidence - get poison - poison everything - accident kill including hide body - run to exit.
I think.
I'm trying to remember the dealer's route in case you could get points for his kill as well but at the same time (which would mean bumpy bumpy, beepy beepy, boom and bleed for both targets in the same place.
One thing I do know but have never managed to exploit due to either sloppy controls or my timing not being good enough, is what whenever I followed the dealer down the steps to the corner, for a brief second if I have the poison an option to poison drugs in his pocket is clearly visible but doesn't flag as actually able to interactive.Now with 80% more Cthulhu!
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fletch7100 4,838 posts
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Registered 2 years agoPanic over did it got the score I needed, now just got to connected to Xbox live next time for it to register.
Still had blood money mindset when accident kills were rated higher, less evidence against you, make it look like an accident. Forgot that this game doesn't think like that.
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darkmorgado 22,594 posts
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That's... odd. Is it because of the signature bonus from using the garotte?
Panic over did it got the score I needed, now just got to connected to Xbox live next time for it to register.
Still had blood money mindset when accident kills were rated higher, less evidence against you, make it look like an accident. Forgot that this game doesn't think like that.
Shit still pulled off prefect accident kill in front of 3 watching policeman but it scores lower than a easy fiber wire kill
Edited by darkmorgado at 21:03:21 28-11-2012Now with 80% more Cthulhu!
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Shikasama 4,620 posts
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I think it's because I do what you advised again - I restart to checkpoint every time I've been spotted because I want that 'perfect' run. I might just sack that off because I think it's starting to harm my chances of enjoying the game properly.
Well the balance changes they are making to suspicion/disguises should take the edge off that once the patch goes live (though,and I'm not bragging here, I haven't really had too much problem on Hard at all. Areas are much thicker with enemies making them harder, but they are still perfectly doable with good timing and observation and a bit more forward planning and patience. And I'm one of those gaming sadists that actually gets more enjoyment from besting an unforgiving/borderline unfair challenge. It gives me that David and Goliath feeling of triumph against the odds). But not only will you have fewer guards (meaning, I think, if you go to make a contract in it later then you will have fewer potential targets to play with), but also - at least on Rosewood - your path through will totally change because the placement of one of the fuses will change, bypassing one area completely (arguably the hardest one in that section) because you no longer have any need to go there (unless you're looking to get the evidence). -
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Registered 10 years agoGive it up guys; the game's a lost cause. -
Shikasama 4,620 posts
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Registered 4 years agoYeah that's what I meant..I'm being distracted by the missus watching Keeping up with the Kardashians. -
darkmorgado 22,594 posts
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Not if you've got somewhere to turn to for advice and suggestions when you get stuck/frustrated/confused it isn't. Which is what this thread is as well as being a place to swap opinions and ratings.
Edited by darkmorgado at 21:11:15 28-11-2012Now with 80% more Cthulhu!
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No I mean because it's rubbish!
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