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  • INSOMANiAC 21 Jul 2010 05:36:21 3,842 posts
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    Tactics Ogre is getting the full 'remake' treatment for PSP according to 1up, great news ! , Ive never played the original but I believe its one of the best srpgs of the genre.

    http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3180492

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  • INSOMANiAC 21 Jul 2010 10:15:15 3,842 posts
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    if its as good a Jeanne D'Arc Ill be happy, I was never a fan of Final Fantasy tactics

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  • Xephon1970 21 Jul 2010 13:26:55 28 posts
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    This pretty much the holy grail of this type of game. Very good news indeed, although a PSN release might have been preferable. Maybe they'll put the PlayStation version up.
  • Doomspoon 21 Jul 2010 15:39:45 2,518 posts
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    This is great news, I've been trying to get hold of the GBA one at a reasonable price for a while (with no success) as I've never tried any of the games in the series.

    I really like Final Fantasy Tactics and Jeanne D'Arc so more in this genre is good with me.
  • LockeTribal 22 Jul 2010 10:21:52 4,540 posts
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    Definitely coming to Europe then.

    \o/

    EDIT: LOL, missed the news on the front page of EG :)
  • Tuffty 22 Jul 2010 16:22:07 1,746 posts
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    And a bulletpoint list of features to the game based on a developer interview:

    - Even though it may look like the game's visuals haven't changed much, they have been improved over the original. They're trying to keep the Super Famicom-like look of the game.

    - They'd actually be proud if people would say that it's the same as the original.

    - You can change the angle to view the action from above.

    - The height-based play and other basic elements of the original remain in tact.

    - They're adding a number of new elements for the game parts and battle parts. The battles will be greatly changed.

    - The game will have a variety of new skill-based gameplay features.

    - There will be new classes.

    - The battle maps character count has increased from the 10 vs 10 of the original to 12 on your side vs 18 on the enemy side, for a total of 30 characters on screen.

    - This is not a "Tactics Ogre Perfect Version," but a "rebuilding" of Tactics Ogre. It doesn't fit within the framework of a "remake."

    - You won't be able to use your strategies from the original for the sequel.

    It's good because Tactics Ogre was something I'd always heard of, and always wanted to try, much like Final Fantasy Tactics. I think this came before that if I remember, so I'm curious to know if it's similar at all, or if maybe FF Tactics is the better game of the two. Is this the game that's set in Ivalice or was that Vagrant Story?
  • LockeTribal 22 Jul 2010 16:30:44 4,540 posts
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    Vagrant Story was set in Ivalice.
  • Cappy 22 Jul 2010 16:54:34 12,119 posts
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    Tactics Ogre is set in a World unique to the Tactics Ogre/Ogre Battle games.
  • HiddenAway 30 Jul 2010 10:56:04 15,000 posts
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    New screenshots

    There's a new trailer as well but it's so uninformative that I won't waste your time linking to it :p

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  • Deleted user 19 November 2010 14:32:13
    I'm sure you guys would have stumbled across this eventually, but just in case...
    http://www.tacticsogregame.com/

    Also a preview
    http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3182416
  • HiddenAway 19 Nov 2010 15:31:59 15,000 posts
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    US release has been confirmed for February 15th 2010 - with Tarot Cards

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  • Deleted user 19 November 2010 16:18:44
    Nooooo! I thought there was more time, there are so many things I want to do before I give up my life to Tactics Ogre.

    *prays for European delay*
  • redcrayon 20 Nov 2010 17:12:53 4,574 posts
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    To the import mobile!
  • Oh-Bollox 20 Nov 2010 17:21:58 5,435 posts
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    About 25 for pre-order on CD Universe.
  • redcrayon 20 Nov 2010 17:29:56 4,574 posts
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    Luvverly jubbly.
  • Pirotic Moderator 20 Nov 2010 18:19:46 20,647 posts
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    Been playing this all day today, initial impressions: Awesome.

    Not very far in but it's essentially all the best bits from the previous games mixed in with some gorgeous new artwork. The initial tutorial stuff is slightly annoying (choosing to 'skip' something will only skip you about 3 dialogue boxes ahead), but once you have teamed up with Lancelot and stormed your first castle it's eventually exactly what I was hoping for.

    The character portraits and interface are gorgeous, it knows I like my stats and lays out all those lovely numbers in an almost pornographic fashion, the way it shows all my team leveling up together post match is probably as close to an orgasm a video game can induce.

    The game world is staggeringly large, and the team management seems is great - yes, I do start all over again if one of my favourite characters die. /swoon

    And best of all, it's a proper adults game again. The trauma of getting FFTA advance home only for the story to shit on my dreams from a great height by opening up with American school kids getting sucked into books.. I still shudder just thinking about it.

    Can't see any online mode mind you, but then I am playing the Japanese version which I'm having some difficulty translating a bit of, oh, and the characters still seem to be in constant 'walking' animation even when stood still which creeps me out a bit.
  • redcrayon 20 Nov 2010 18:27:04 4,574 posts
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    Pirotic wrote:
    Been playing this all day today, initial impressions: Awesome.

    And best of all, it's a proper adults game again. The trauma of getting FFTA advance home only for the story to shit on my dreams from a great height by opening up with American school kids getting sucked into books.. I still shudder just thinking about it.

    That's why I rate FFT- War of the Lions over the GBA/DS ones, strategy RPGs just lose all sense of threat when it's 14-year olds running around, being overly enthusiastic about attacking armies of trained mercenaries while armed with a wooden sword.

    Nothing wrong with a good old fantasy political mash-up!
  • Pirotic Moderator 20 Nov 2010 18:31:17 20,647 posts
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    Hehe, Indeed - It was the art style as well with the FFTA games. I want to feel I'm the guy deciding if these guys live in a world of freedom and hot female wizards, or doomed to the enslavement of generic tyrant number 2. The whole school kids and rabbits who limit what moves you can use in a fight to the death was kind of fucking stupid.
  • redcrayon 20 Nov 2010 19:17:32 4,574 posts
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    Hey Pirotic, have you tried Laevatein tactics?

    It's like a cross between Ogre Battle and Tactics Ogre. Plus it has a proper fantasy plot, and whole units hitting each other! Not the best SRPG by a long way, but worth a look as I can't imagine the print run was huge.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_Saga_Laevatein_Tactics
  • Pirotic Moderator 20 Nov 2010 19:50:23 20,647 posts
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    Thanks, will keep an eye open for that one once I've finished this.
  • HiddenAway 12 Jan 2011 20:46:57 15,000 posts
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    Vertical Stand wrote:
    Nooooo! I thought there was more time, there are so many things I want to do before I give up my life to Tactics Ogre.

    *prays for European delay*

    You succeeded. It's delayed - by one week ;)

    EU release on 25th February 2011. Premium edition also to be released, with art book and mini soundtrack - but no sign of Tarot cards...

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  • Deleted user 12 January 2011 21:35:43
    Its not been delayed long enough! :( Best get on the srpg case as I've Front Mission 3 and Ogre Battle to play.

    @Pirotic Missed the old post, not played it myself but another interesting one worth checking out is Japan only Saturn exclusive Wachenroder.
  • FabricatedLunatic 12 Jan 2011 21:46:57 13,040 posts
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    By the sound of it the Premium Edition is all there's going to be. I think I may have me one.

    Having checked out the official site and promotional stuff, I'm left with one question. Where is the ogre of which the title speaks?
  • Gearskin 12 Jan 2011 22:04:53 2,100 posts
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    29.99 on play.com

    No mention of "Premium Edition" on GAME's site but it's also 29.99
  • pinebear 2 Feb 2011 11:27:24 8,565 posts
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    Looks like Premium Edition is standard in Europe. HMV.com have it for 25.
    Shopto's site shows me an RRP of 24.99 and a Shopto price of 26.86 XD

  • FabricatedLunatic 2 Feb 2011 11:39:12 13,040 posts
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    23.85 at Zavvi. Ordered a copy using a 10% off code I've had for a while.
  • Murbs 2 Feb 2011 11:44:47 22,591 posts
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    Frightens me that this is going to be a little hardcore. What I love about Disgaea is that it encourages you to weight the odds in your favour in obscene amounts...
  • Deleted user 2 February 2011 13:05:58
    I might be the only one who tested the old PS One version on a PSP(?) It was a fucking nightmare. The characters were extremely slow to level up. There were missions allowed where you split your team in two sub-teams to fight each other just to level up.
    And you could throw rocks on your opponents to do a 1-point damage. Horrible, horrible game. Sorry if this spoils anyone's anticipation...
  • Deleted user 2 February 2011 15:18:42
    This remake has a much gentler difficulty curve than the original, apparently. Hardcore TO fans are complaining it's too easy, but should be better for us normal people.
    Also, I think the PS One version was supposed to be a poor port of the SNES original, with long loading times and other problems.
    In general, it has been remade from the ground up to make it more accessible without losing depth.
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