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  • FWB 16 Jul 2014 00:14:46 45,587 posts
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    It's helped them win the title, no doubt, but I still maintain that aside from 2000, they really haven't been that bad. England are way off.

    What the youth development did was to redefine how they played, with more of a focus on flair, possession and attacking. Their football is more attractive (it was always effective), not that it was that bad to watch before.
  • faux-C 16 Jul 2014 00:40:12 9,636 posts
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    The focus on Germany (or Spain or whoever) is a distraction. We should be talking about why England can't do as well as Costa Rica, Greece, Nigeria, USA, Algeria, Bosnia, Honduras, Switzerland. Are you telling me all those countries have a better "set up" than England?

    Par for England should be getting out of the group stage, possibly reaching the quarter finals. Anything beyond that is a bonus, anything less than that is a failure. It wouldn't take huge investments in infrastructure to reach it, just decent management of the team. Didn't Sven do that at every tournament?
  • Armoured_Bear 16 Jul 2014 09:24:51 11,892 posts
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    Pretty much all the decent pundits (apart from Henry) are ex managers, isn't that right?
    Seedorf, O'Neill, Strachan, Hoddle etc.

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  • THFourteen 16 Jul 2014 09:29:54 34,469 posts
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    Anyway, there's no point over anaylsing this now.

    Lets just worry about it again in 4 years time.
  • Kosmoz 16 Jul 2014 09:31:46 7,768 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    Pretty much all the decent pundits (apart from Henry) are ex managers, isn't that right?
    Seedorf, O'Neill, Strachan, Hoddle etc.
    Hoddle? The man who called Algeria "Al Jazeera" is a decent pundit? The ball doesn't get tired.

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  • yegon 16 Jul 2014 10:02:05 5,416 posts
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    Kosmoz wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    Pretty much all the decent pundits (apart from Henry) are ex managers, isn't that right?
    Seedorf, O'Neill, Strachan, Hoddle etc.
    Hoddle? The man who called Algeria "Al Jazeera" is a decent pundit? The ball doesn't get tired.
    Also the man who likened Gerrard to Pirlo and how Stevie has another WC in him. Laughable if it wasn't such a prevalent attitude re: our "star" players.
  • Armoured_Bear 16 Jul 2014 10:10:44 11,892 posts
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    Kosmoz wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    Pretty much all the decent pundits (apart from Henry) are ex managers, isn't that right?
    Seedorf, O'Neill, Strachan, Hoddle etc.
    Hoddle? The man who called Algeria "Al Jazeera" is a decent pundit? The ball doesn't get tired.
    I didn't see much of him to be honest but he seemed better than most, I can't believe he did that....

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  • TheSaint 16 Jul 2014 11:00:35 14,829 posts
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    I was quite impressed by Rio considering it was the first time he'd done it. His film 'Rio in Rio' the other night was pretty good as well.
  • FWB 16 Jul 2014 11:01:33 45,587 posts
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    Aside from him talking in it.
  • Dougs 16 Jul 2014 11:04:26 69,500 posts
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    One last plug for my mate, who finally seems to be getting some attention:

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/gallery/2014/jul/16/the-illustrated-world-cup-2014?CMP=twt_gu
  • Bremenacht 16 Jul 2014 11:09:39 19,663 posts
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    It was just a tongue fumble - he gasped and corrected himself straight after. I think he was also being respectful about Gerrard, rather than honest.
  • Kay 16 Jul 2014 11:10:00 17,969 posts
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    @Dougs Was wondering if that was the same guy you were talking about on here a while back! Started following him recently on Twitter, his work during the WC was brilliant.
  • Steve_Perry 16 Jul 2014 11:10:10 5,200 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    One last plug for my mate, who finally seems to be getting some attention:

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/gallery/2014/jul/16/the-illustrated-world-cup-2014?CMP=twt_gu
    Well done to him. They're really very good.
  • Dougs 16 Jul 2014 11:13:17 69,500 posts
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    Yeah, he's worked his nads off this WC (especially as he's based in Oz, time difference and all). Hopefully he'll start to get some regular work, he deserves it.
  • Bremenacht 16 Jul 2014 11:31:02 19,663 posts
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    Ha! They are good. Loved one Mexican and his dog.
  • Saucy 16 Jul 2014 14:00:40 2,614 posts
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    @fletch7100 Cheers for the link (and to others who provided one).

    Not sure how much of the German model could be successfully implemented here, as it seems to be based on a core understanding of the clubs and the FA working together.
  • Humperfunk 16 Jul 2014 14:12:10 2,492 posts
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    Steve_Perry wrote:
    Dougs wrote:
    One last plug for my mate, who finally seems to be getting some attention:

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/gallery/2014/jul/16/the-illustrated-world-cup-2014?CMP=twt_gu
    Well done to him. They're really very good.
    Really enjoyed those, cheers Dougs (and cheers to your mate!)

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  • Feanor 16 Jul 2014 14:15:15 14,185 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    Anyway, there's no point over anaylsing this now.

    Lets just worry about it again in 4 years time.
    Or less than that if England fail to qualify for Russia 2018.
  • Bremenacht 16 Jul 2014 14:27:49 19,663 posts
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    SaucyGeoff wrote:
    Not sure how much of the German model could be successfully implemented here, as it seems to be based on a core understanding of the clubs and the FA working together.
    That sums up the problem nicely. Given the PL's financial success, no FA scheme that increases cost or reduces revenue will ever be accepted. To be fair, you only have to look at Wembley to see why the FA cannot expect trust when it comes to planning.
  • DanB24 16 Jul 2014 18:01:04 2,376 posts
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    faux_carnation wrote:
    The focus on Germany (or Spain or whoever) is a distraction. We should be talking about why England can't do as well as Costa Rica, Greece, Nigeria, USA, Algeria, Bosnia, Honduras, Switzerland. Are you telling me all those countries have a better "set up" than England?

    Par for England should be getting out of the group stage, possibly reaching the quarter finals. Anything beyond that is a bonus, anything less than that is a failure. It wouldn't take huge investments in infrastructure to reach it, just decent management of the team. Didn't Sven do that at every tournament?
    Yes he did every time. One of the best managers we've ever had and yet the media couldn't wait to be rid of him. :rolleyes:
  • FrostPan 17 Jul 2014 01:09:27 246 posts
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    Not sure if already posted, so..

    I just found out on why they randomly cut to the statue of Christ the Redeemer at sunset during the final world cup game. I was wondering what was all that about since it took a while to return to the game. I'm aware of this prankster's youtube channel, think he's a complete tosspot for pulling this shit off.

  • FWB 17 Jul 2014 01:32:44 45,587 posts
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    Probably made a few bob from the hits doing that.
  • sport 17 Jul 2014 09:37:09 12,811 posts
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    Wonder what the other teams did for the host country?

    http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/SPO-FIFA-here-is-what-makes-germany-the-true-champions-of-the-brazil-world-cup-4680816-NOR.html
  • Ziz0u 17 Jul 2014 13:45:28 8,648 posts
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    England drop 10 places in the world rankings.

    http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/
  • THFourteen 17 Jul 2014 13:49:27 34,469 posts
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    Finally!

    fecking useless c8nts
  • teamHAM 17 Jul 2014 14:12:20 3,151 posts
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    Scotland only seven places behind? Greece, Costa Rica, and even Bosnia ranked ahead of England now?

    Costa Rica won two games in 90 minutes and all of a sudden they are 12 places up? Good lord.

    Might be worth a punt on Scotland actually being ahead of England in the rankings by the time the Euros swing round.

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  • djronz. 17 Jul 2014 17:14:12 295 posts
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    Zizoo wrote:
    England drop 10 places in the world rankings.

    http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/
    To be honest the fifa rankings are pretty meaningless,  there are always some bizare positions,  like england being in the the 10 for instance! 
  • FWB 17 Jul 2014 17:15:05 45,587 posts
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    First time we've been properly placed.
  • Gunzberg 17 Jul 2014 18:07:25 1,751 posts
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    Finally new rankings!

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