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  • ecureuil 13 Feb 2013 22:11:13 76,644 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    mikew1985 wrote:
    IMO wrote:
    Technically, if stoppage time has been played, the ref doesn't have to let teams take set pieces. Didn't see the game though.
    I'm fairly certain it was 92.57 or something just as the kick was about to be taken.

    I've seen it happen maybe once before I think.
    So, 3 seconds short then?

    Drives me mad when refs add on time for no apparent reason it's only pens that they have to allow to be taken.
    The ball went out 30 seconds earlier though. The ref should consider the time it takes for the players to run over and take the corner.
  • Dougs 13 Feb 2013 22:11:38 67,015 posts
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    Spanish time is always ahead remember. :)
  • Trowel 13 Feb 2013 22:16:15 17,523 posts
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    It was 92:58 when he blew, and it's pretty common - just not often when the game is level.

    90% of the time a ref will blow as the defending team bring it out, or more commonly when the goalkeeper has launched it skyward.

    And BTW, the United fans have forgotten that the ref blew up in the 4-4 draw last season as Jagielka was running into their box for a shot...
  • Deleted user 13 February 2013 22:17:18
    If the ref took into account the time the ball is waiting to come into play games would last about 130 mins.
  • Trowel 13 Feb 2013 22:20:19 17,523 posts
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    We've discussed time keeping a few times in the PL thread - it's insane that it's left entirely at the whim of the referee.
  • mikew1985 13 Feb 2013 22:21:24 12,645 posts
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    Trowel wrote:
    It was 92:58 when he blew, and it's pretty common - just not often when the game is level.

    90% of the time a ref will blow as the defending team bring it out, or more commonly when the goalkeeper has launched it skyward.

    And BTW, the United fans have forgotten that the ref blew up in the 4-4 draw last season as Jagielka was running into their box for a shot...
    OK had the allotted time elapsed per chance?

    Edited by mikew1985 at 22:22:03 13-02-2013
  • Ka-blamo 13 Feb 2013 22:22:15 7,306 posts
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    Trowel wrote:
    And BTW, the United fans have forgotten that the ref blew up in the 4-4 draw last season as Jagielka was running into their box for a shot...
    The ref blowing the whistle then didn't help us in anyway, why would we remember it?
  • ecureuil 13 Feb 2013 22:24:27 76,644 posts
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    http://i.imgur.com/h6LmiMo.jpg
  • speedofthepuma 13 Feb 2013 22:24:56 13,278 posts
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    Should be a klaxon and then the game stops when the ball goes out of play. That would make for some nervy ends to a match.

    I lurk. If I've spoken to you, I'm either impassioned, or drunk.

  • yegon 13 Feb 2013 22:30:53 5,207 posts
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    Real time clock, cut games to 60 minutes, et voila. Average games are about 56m iirc so we'd actually get more football.
  • beastmaster 13 Feb 2013 22:38:15 11,287 posts
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    I didn't see the game but 1-1 is defo a good result for United.

    Edited by beastmaster at 22:38:26 13-02-2013

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  • Shikasama 13 Feb 2013 22:41:04 6,698 posts
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    WAH WAH STANDARD REFEREE COMPLAINTS WAH
  • mikew1985 13 Feb 2013 22:41:40 12,645 posts
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    Without doubt it is. Doesn't mean the ref should be immune to criticism.
  • Syrette 13 Feb 2013 22:44:25 43,231 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    http://i.imgur.com/h6LmiMo.jpg
    Not that I expected any different but it was good of Ronaldo to celebrate respectfully.

  • SuperCoolEskimo 13 Feb 2013 22:56:24 9,754 posts
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    Never been convinced by Mourinho as a coach when he has to attack, especially in the big games. His teams always prefer to play on the break. That's one reason why Benitez's Liverpool did so well against his Chelsea, because they'd sit back home and away, not giving them a chance to counter and then it's a case of who can nick a goal or penalties.

    They created little from open play tonight, the saves De Gea made were ones you'd expect him to make apart from the Coentrao one which was world class.

    They've scored plenty in La Liga but that's because the gap in quality is so big. Even then, the matches they've lost have usually been because they couldn't break down the opposition and conceded on the break or a set piece.

    I expect Ferguson will have Utd sit back at OT, put the onus on Madrid to attack and back his team to shut them out and hit them on the break. I make Utd 60/40 favourites at 1-1.

    Good game though, tense and absorbing. Referee bottled the Evra decision though and blowing early at the end was stupid, apart from that he was good.
  • Trane 13 Feb 2013 23:01:34 4,050 posts
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    Shikasama wrote:
    WAH WAH STANDARD REFEREE COMPLAINTS WAH
    I don't think an obvious red card and an early whistle are standard complaints.
  • convz 13 Feb 2013 23:22:10 372 posts
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    Shikasama wrote:
    WAH WAH STANDARD REFEREE COMPLAINTS WAH
    Did you see the game? The referee was poor.

    Still a great result for United though.
  • SaucyGeoff 13 Feb 2013 23:24:53 2,564 posts
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    Ref totally bottled the challenge on Evra, clear red card, could have really changed the game.

    I think the final whistle was fair enough, refs are only supposed to add to extra time when substitutions, injuries and goals occur. United were happy at 1-1 and deliberately taking their time, and ran the clock down before taking the kick. It might not happen often, but I think its the correct call.
  • CharlieStCloud 14 Feb 2013 08:39:02 5,202 posts
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    Syrette wrote:
    ecureuil wrote:
    http://i.imgur.com/h6LmiMo.jpg
    Not that I expected any different but it was good of Ronaldo to celebrate respectfully.
    I am a (fading) Liverpool supporter, but that photo is great ...

    ... hope he comes back to Manchester United when his contract comes to an end (in summer 2014?).
  • Dougs 14 Feb 2013 08:41:58 67,015 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:

    The ball went out 30 seconds earlier though. The ref should consider the time it takes for the players to run over and take the corner.
    Missed this last night - play doesn't stop for set pieces, unless there is a longer than normal delay (such as an injury or fracas in the area).
  • Trowel 14 Feb 2013 08:53:51 17,523 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    ecureuil wrote:

    The ball went out 30 seconds earlier though. The ref should consider the time it takes for the players to run over and take the corner.
    Missed this last night - play doesn't stop for set pieces, unless there is a longer than normal delay (such as an injury or fracas in the area).
    But what about when Manchester United are playing?
  • puddleduck 14 Feb 2013 09:11:12 1,853 posts
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    Fergie time only exists under the conditions of GMT/BST
  • Dougs 14 Feb 2013 09:11:52 67,015 posts
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    I'd entirely missed the plane crash in Donetsk. :(
  • roz123 14 Feb 2013 09:21:23 7,112 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    I'd entirely missed the plane crash in Donetsk. :(
    Luckily the majority of passengers survived
  • ecureuil 14 Feb 2013 13:31:26 76,644 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    ecureuil wrote:

    The ball went out 30 seconds earlier though. The ref should consider the time it takes for the players to run over and take the corner.
    Missed this last night - play doesn't stop for set pieces, unless there is a longer than normal delay (such as an injury or fracas in the area).
    Fair enough, didn't realise that. It's unusual for the ref to stop a corner being taken, especially in a close game when there's still a few seconds on the clock. The whistle is very rarely blown exactly on time. I've seen it stopped at a corner in a game where the team were winning easily, and I've seen the ball stopped in mid-flight from a corner, which also caused a bit of an uproar. It was an unusual time to end the game, it surely wouldn't have happened if the corner was at the other end of the pitch.
  • imamazed 14 Feb 2013 14:02:10 5,530 posts
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    It's unusual sure, but certainly fair
  • Ka-blamo 19 Feb 2013 09:15:15 7,306 posts
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    I feel Bayern might be too strong over two legs, It's gonna be real tough but all the best Arsenal.
  • danathjo 19 Feb 2013 18:08:12 7,306 posts
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    come on my arse!!!
  • oceanmotion 19 Feb 2013 18:19:26 15,759 posts
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    5-0 Bayern.
  • Blotto 19 Feb 2013 18:23:06 2,772 posts
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    2-1 Arsenal this leg, we'll lose the tie though.
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