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  • Dougs 5 Dec 2012 06:32:09 83,734 posts
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    JonFE wrote:
    kentmonkey wrote:
    ...Still strong enough to be beating Panathinaikos...
    Given the poor state Panathinaikos has been lately, you are probably right; too bad you were playing against Olympiacos instead. :evil:

    I jest. :cool:

    On a serious note, this game was more important to us than you, as we wanted to increase our chances for an "weaker" opponent in Europa League. If Arsenal were in any danger of not qualifying, it would be a different match with a different result, most probably.
    Heh, that was a dig at the broadcaster over here who said we were playing Pana at the end of the 1st half!
  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 08:35:03
    So Man City's CL performance this year officially the worst of any English club in the history of the competition.

    Shameful.
  • THFourteen 5 Dec 2012 08:38:29 46,177 posts
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    It was also one of the toughest groups i can ever recall in the history of the champions league.
  • Tom_Servo 5 Dec 2012 08:40:10 18,079 posts
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    What is it about Europe that seems to dumbfound some managers? It's not like they're playing basketball in the Champions League.

    James Richardson asked this on Football Weekly the other week and, apart from a giggle about the teams being better, no one really had an answer. Or is that the answer?
  • Tom_Servo 5 Dec 2012 08:43:21 18,079 posts
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    As the champions of England, City should be able to compete with the champions of Spain and Germany (and Ajax shouldn't even be an issue for them). To be so far off the pace (am I right in thinking they finished with two points?) is a real damning indictment of the PL, IMO (as well as Mancini).
  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 08:45:43
    THFourteen wrote:
    It was also one of the toughest groups i can ever recall in the history of the champions league.
    Huge overstatement. Real yes, but City should be cruising past teams like Dortmand and Ajax. Good teams yes, but really shouldn't be a threat for City.

    Genuinely don't think it was much harder than our group a few years back - Inter (who were CL champions), Bremen (who were as good then as Dortmand are now) and Twente (who had finished about Ajax that season). We won that group.
  • THFourteen 5 Dec 2012 09:28:48 46,177 posts
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    Dunno, your group had two good teams in it and two rubbish teams.

    City's group had four good teams in it.
  • roz123 5 Dec 2012 09:34:33 7,112 posts
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    So is Rafa Benitez going to be the first manager in history to fail to qualify past the group stages with a team who has just won the champions league? :lol:

    I have a good feeling that Shaktar will beat Juve, they are a very, very good team and the players all want to put in great performances so teams from the big leagues come in for them. It would be hilarious if they did and we failed to beat Nordjealland.
  • nickthegun 5 Dec 2012 09:42:38 71,893 posts
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    Tom_Servo wrote:
    As the champions of England, City should be able to compete with the champions of Spain and Germany (and Ajax shouldn't even be an issue for them). To be so far off the pace (am I right in thinking they finished with two points?) is a real damning indictment of the PL, IMO (as well as Mancini).
    To be honest, I would expect any of our teams, even arsenal, to have made a better fist of it than city.

    They were absolutely woeful, but you cant see united, for example not taking points from dortmund and ajax.

    Im not a big fan of sacking managers but even i would give mancini the bullet for not even getting into the europa.

    Edited by nickthegun at 09:43:14 05-12-2012
  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 09:44:35
    You think your club failing to get through would be hilarious?

    @roz

    Edited by Aargh. at 09:44:59 05-12-2012
  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 09:49:10
    THFourteen wrote:
    Dunno, your group had two good teams in it and two rubbish teams.

    City's group had four good teams in it.
    Did you read my post? That's just not true.
  • roz123 5 Dec 2012 10:01:42 7,112 posts
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    Aargh. wrote:
    You think your club failing to get through would be hilarious?

    @roz

    Edited by Aargh. at 09:44:59 05-12-2012
    Yep, I hate Rafa, if that happens he would probably get sacked plus I have already started reorganising my thursday nights.
  • fergal_oc 5 Dec 2012 10:01:43 2,764 posts
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    City were pants last night however to say we didn't compete isn't really true is it?

    Twice we had the lead in Madrid, we took the lead in Amsterdam, should've killed both games off admittedly yes but hey ho, oh and we didn't lose at home. Surely that's got to be a fair definition of competing? We competed whilst playing decent football for 20mins in Madrid and most of a half in Amsterdam - in 6 games.

    Dortmund are a obviously a better team than Madrid given they came top of our group. Don't think United would've qualified given their current defensive frailties, as for Aresenal or Chelsea LOL.
  • nickthegun 5 Dec 2012 10:04:01 71,893 posts
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    A fair definition of competing is not finishing bottom of your group with three points and no wins.
  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 10:06:09
    Oh you took the lead in games that you ultimately didn't win. Big wow.

    Bottom of your group and least points in the history of English clubs in the Champions League = not competing in my book.

    And I think any of those teams mentioned would have done better, as would have Spurs. It's not about how good your team is, you probably have the best squad in the tournament (as you should). It's the spirit with which you play that counts.
  • fergal_oc 5 Dec 2012 10:08:56 2,764 posts
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    So Kalel tell me, what is it about City that you hate so much? Sit down on the sofa, put your head back and just let it flow...

    Edited by fergal_oc at 10:09:10 05-12-2012
  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 10:11:37
    The nouveau myopic fans mostly.
  • roz123 5 Dec 2012 10:12:04 7,112 posts
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    I liked it when Ajax short skillfull players kept scoring from corners, that had nothing to do with the pace of European football
  • nickthegun 5 Dec 2012 10:13:43 71,893 posts
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    Its nothing specifically against city, its just that you would expect the english harlem globetrotters to be able to to at least make it to channel five in the new year.
  • fergal_oc 5 Dec 2012 10:16:37 2,764 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    The nouveau myopic fans mostly.
    Ooo posh!

    I don't think any proper City fan is shortsighted. In fact I think it's the opposite that's annoying you.
  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 10:18:05
    To be honest, when I don't like about City, and what I don't like about you are quite different things.

    Not very nice I know, but you did ask.
  • fergal_oc 5 Dec 2012 10:20:19 2,764 posts
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    I'm always happy to receive constructive criticism, so be my guest.
  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 10:21:58
    I hate you all. Does that help anyone?
  • imamazed 5 Dec 2012 10:23:33 6,307 posts
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    @nickthegun Channel 5 lost the rights to the Europa League for this season, ESPN and ITV only
  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 10:27:39
    fergal_oc wrote:
    We competed whilst playing decent football for 20mins in Madrid and most of a half in Amsterdam
    I just can't take you seriously when you think things like this are valid points in the face of spending over 900m since your current owners took over.

    That and the whole suddenly becoming a huge City fan and an expert on football the minute your club became the richest in the world thing.

    Sorry again, I know I'm not being nice (or perhaps even constructive), but there it is.
  • nickthegun 5 Dec 2012 10:29:37 71,893 posts
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    imamazed wrote:
    @nickthegun Channel 5 lost the rights to the Europa League for this season, ESPN and ITV only
    Thats not really the point but, but thanks for the correction.

    Edited by nickthegun at 10:29:47 05-12-2012
  • imamazed 5 Dec 2012 10:33:08 6,307 posts
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    @nickthegun No problem
  • fergal_oc 5 Dec 2012 10:38:04 2,764 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    fergal_oc wrote:
    We competed whilst playing decent football for 20mins in Madrid and most of a half in Amsterdam
    I just can't take you seriously when you think things like this are valid points in the face of spending over 900m since your current owners took over.

    That and the whole suddenly becoming a huge City fan and an expert on football the minute your club became the richest in the world thing.

    Sorry again, I know I'm not being nice (or perhaps even constructive), but there it is.
    I don't think you're being harsh. I think your perception of me all of a sudden becoming a huge City fan is incorrect, but that's your perception and you're entitled to it.

    I liken City to the Welsh rugby team. Full of excellent players but not quite getting it right. Wales have lost 7 consecutive test matches, which on the face of it is appauling form, especially given the expectations. But I then look a little deeper and see that most of those games have been lost in the last few minutes or by less than 7pts. I can see that they are competing but they're missing something, maybe it's their coaching or over coaching but something is missing.

    As for City, well I can't do anything about the 900m spent. I try to be objective and look for positives. I'm a glass half full guy and I understand that being so rubs some people up the wrong way. For that I am sorry.
  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 10:41:13
    I suspect you have plenty to look forward to as a City fan, so the whole "clutching at positives where you can find them" thing is probably unnecessary.
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