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  • reddevil93 21 Nov 2012 20:02:48 11,373 posts
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    So em, City look fucking shocking.

  • ecureuil 21 Nov 2012 20:04:51 76,482 posts
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    They're getting schooled at the moment, yeah.
  • Deleted user 21 November 2012 20:04:56
    Awful, oh well
  • Blakester 21 Nov 2012 20:05:28 3,567 posts
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    Great to watch Real on the counter attack though.

    When you can't see the angles on the wall you're in trouble.

  • oceanmotion 21 Nov 2012 20:05:48 15,641 posts
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    Fuck, just went to garage for some beer and it's 1-0.

    Who scored, good goal ?
  • ecureuil 21 Nov 2012 20:06:36 76,482 posts
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    Benzema tap-in.
  • reddevil93 21 Nov 2012 20:07:38 11,373 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    Benzema tap-in.
    From shocking City marking as per.

  • reddevil93 21 Nov 2012 20:09:38 11,373 posts
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    Blakester wrote:
    Great to watch Real on the counter attack though.
    Yeah, great to watch. To think there's United fans that didn't want Mourinho as manager because he couldn't set up a team to play good football..

  • The-Bodybuilder 21 Nov 2012 20:09:56 14,052 posts
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    Khedira really should've scored that.
  • Dougs 21 Nov 2012 20:10:58 66,610 posts
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    Oi, wrong channel!
  • Deleted user 21 November 2012 20:19:21
    Man City must be kicking themselves now Chelsea beat them to Rafa.
  • Jono62 21 Nov 2012 20:23:19 13,951 posts
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    Dortmund 2-0 up. Going to have a punt on them to win the whole thing.
  • oceanmotion 21 Nov 2012 20:24:56 15,641 posts
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    If Man City could get Pep or Mourinho, who do you think would be better ?
  • reddevil93 21 Nov 2012 20:27:01 11,373 posts
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    oceanmotion wrote:
    If Man City could get Pep or Mourinho, who do you think would be better ?
    Mourinho. Knows the Prem. Success in 4 different leagues. Pep is untested aside from a Barca side custom built for him.

  • ecureuil 21 Nov 2012 20:30:23 76,482 posts
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    The core of Pep's Barca side was built by Rijkaard, and their academy is well established. I think he might be a bit overrated as a manager though his Barca side was one of the greatest ever. I think he'd be a risky appointment for any big club at the moment.
  • oceanmotion 21 Nov 2012 20:30:45 15,641 posts
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    Yeah, I agree but the allure of Pep and his Barca days must be tempting. I think Man City are more long term in their approach which may be a good match.
  • ElNino9 21 Nov 2012 20:33:13 13,285 posts
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    reddevil93 wrote:
    So em, City look fucking shocking.
    The gap between the second best side in the world and the third is huge.

    Hated, adored, never ignored.

  • kentmonkey 21 Nov 2012 20:34:58 20,416 posts
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    The Arsenal vs Montpellier match is dire. There's not one player out of 22 that's had a decent first half. Best moment was when Mertesacker was momentarily like a BFG Messi. Momentarily being about 1.3 seconds, but it was entertaining while it lasted.
  • oceanmotion 21 Nov 2012 20:36:03 15,641 posts
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    Borussia Dortmund aren't playing Real Madrid.
  • reddevil93 21 Nov 2012 20:37:14 11,373 posts
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    ElNino9 wrote:
    reddevil93 wrote:
    So em, City look fucking shocking.
    The gap between the second best side in the world and the turd is huge.
    ...

  • senso-ji 21 Nov 2012 20:38:47 5,789 posts
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    Michael Owen rocking an epic 'tache.
  • roz123 21 Nov 2012 20:38:56 7,112 posts
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    Nice tash
  • The-Bodybuilder 21 Nov 2012 20:39:54 14,052 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    Oi, wrong channel!
    ooops, err, I meant Koscielny,
  • oceanmotion 21 Nov 2012 20:41:29 15,641 posts
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    Why did they buy Maicon again.
  • reddevil93 21 Nov 2012 20:41:36 11,373 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    The core of Pep's Barca side was built by Rijkaard,
    Except there was even more Barca youth prominent who knew the style of play. Piqué, Pedro, Busquets and Iniesta's growth being the most prominent. Don't think there's many players at all Pep would've changed no matter who he could've replaced with. Can't see him replicating such success again soon and that's not to discredit him. Villanova has come in and broken some of his records already. That Barca side is a machine.

  • oceanmotion 21 Nov 2012 20:42:31 15,641 posts
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    Holy crap, moustaches. Owens looks half fake, maybe dyed it. Ginger beard fear.

    Edited by oceanmotion at 20:44:22 21-11-2012
  • The-Bodybuilder 21 Nov 2012 20:51:20 14,052 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    The core of Pep's Barca side was built by Rijkaard.
    Kinda stopped paying attention after that.
    the team Rijkaard built was based around Puyol, Deco and Ronaldinho, and messi was just coming through.

    Guardiola virtually gutted out the core, built the team on the academy players he was familiar with and coached, built around Puyol, Xavi (who was there but was hindered by king deco), iniesta, and messi. Improved them by making Busquets (much as I hate the knob) the key deep-lying midfielder, much to the world's dismay by selling the (still) world-class Y.Toure. Brought through players like pedro which initially brought questions till he proved them right.
    then to top it off, turned messi, who was doing great as a RW into a CF (thus popularizing and bringing back the false-9 position) which has been the making of messi (at a time when the idea of a diminutive playmaker could play in the position that was commonly known for big target men).

    then there is not just their passing style, but the ethos who coached into the team about gaining the ball back within 7 seconds of losing it in the oppositions half before returning to form, which a distinct coaching style of their off-the-ball pressing tactics.

    basically, the idea that Pep simply watched a world-class team do their thing is madness. The idea that this team was built by Rijkaard is simply ridiculous.
  • Whizzo 21 Nov 2012 20:51:33 43,032 posts
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    Nice one Jack!

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  • The-Bodybuilder 21 Nov 2012 20:52:32 14,052 posts
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    oceanmotion wrote:
    Why did they buy Maicon again.
    because they could.
    and they wanted to see him against Bale at least twice a season.
  • ecureuil 21 Nov 2012 21:00:02 76,482 posts
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    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    ecureuil wrote:
    The core of Pep's Barca side was built by Rijkaard.
    Kinda stopped paying attention after that.
    the team Rijkaard built was based around Puyol, Deco and Ronaldinho, and messi was just coming through.

    Guardiola virtually gutted out the core, built the team on the academy players he was familiar with and coached, built around Puyol, Xavi (who was there but was hindered by king deco), iniesta, and messi. Improved them by making Busquets (much as I hate the knob) the key deep-lying midfielder, much to the world's dismay by selling the (still) world-class Y.Toure. Brought through players like pedro which initially brought questions till he proved them right.
    then to top it off, turned messi, who was doing great as a RW into a CF (thus popularizing and bringing back the false-9 position) which has been the making of messi (at a time when the idea of a diminutive playmaker could play in the position that was commonly known for big target men).

    then there is not just their passing style, but the ethos who coached into the team about gaining the ball back within 7 seconds of losing it in the oppositions half before returning to form, which a distinct coaching style of their off-the-ball pressing tactics.

    basically, the idea that Pep simply watched a world-class team do their thing is madness. The idea that this team was built by Rijkaard is simply ridiculous.
    Fair enough, calm down. I'm not trying to discredit Guardiola. My feeling is just that Barcelona was already an exceptionally well run club in terms of the academy and existing talent and structure when he took over. If he takes over at Man City he'll be expected to have them playing like Barcelona within 6 months, yet that kind of football can take a generation to nurture.
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