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  • Deleted user 27 January 2013 16:52:47
    You're responding mostly to kalel, and that's almost exactly what he's been saying.
  • Deleted user 27 January 2013 16:54:47
    If you think my opinions are nothing more than lazy, argumentative and simply wrong, then I'm not going to waste my time voicing them.
  • afghan_jones 30 Jan 2013 10:07:47 3,039 posts
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    Wow, heated stuff.

    Personally I do think it's a great film, for a lot of reasons. But the really big draw for me is the way they set up the universe as a place where Batman really could die.

    As someone who's read a ton of comics, watched the tv shows & movies, played the games etc, Batman has never really been at risk of death. Not really. Because whatever peril he's in, you know he's going to get out of it. Even 'actually' dying in the comics isn't necessarily a permanent problem.

    But in the Nolan world, you beleive that Batman dying is a real possibility. Watching that helicopter flying off over the bay was genuinely emotional for me as it was the first time in a lifetime of Breading/watching Batman stories, that I really truly thought he might die. Obviously doesnt quite work out that way but still, that one moment of thinking I might actually watch Batman die for 'real', outweighed any of the nitpciky issues the film might have had up to then.
  • Tuffty 30 Jan 2013 11:11:27 2,251 posts
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    SolidSCB wrote:
    Especially when there is a fuck off piece of equipment hanging off his face screaming "THIS IS MY WEAK SPOT" for the entire film.
    Is it though? We know it's a weak point because we've read the comics and know about the character, but is that really so obvious to the characters encountering him for the first time?
  • GuiltySpark 30 Jan 2013 11:16:46 6,625 posts
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    Tuffty wrote:
    SolidSCB wrote:
    Especially when there is a fuck off piece of equipment hanging off his face screaming "THIS IS MY WEAK SPOT" for the entire film.
    Is it though? We know it's a weak point because we've read the comics and know about the character, but is that really so obvious to the characters encountering him for the first time?
    Yes, it really, really is. Especially for a detective. At the very least, it's the first place you'd try.
  • kinky_mong 30 Jan 2013 11:28:18 11,620 posts
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    Every time you notice an inconsistency like that, a wizard did it. - Chris Nolan talking about TDKR, 2012

    Edited by kinky_mong at 11:28:59 30-01-2013
  • SuperCoolEskimo 30 Jan 2013 14:45:32 10,374 posts
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    I love Bane. The look, mask, voice, brutality etc, excellent villain. People would be talking about him like they do Ledger's Joker but TDKR had so many other characters that I think Bane was underused.

    Only negative about the film is it felt a bit rushed even at 2+ hours. TDK was deeper in terms of exploring/developing the characters and their relationships, TDKR not as much.
  • Mola_Ram 30 Jan 2013 14:49:08 10,651 posts
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    That's because there were like half a dozen more useless characters to keep track of, eating up screen time.
  • SuperCoolEskimo 30 Jan 2013 14:54:49 10,374 posts
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    Yes my point exactly.
  • ecu 30 Jan 2013 14:56:55 77,860 posts
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    SuperCoolEskimo wrote:
    I love Bane. The look, mask, voice, brutality etc, excellent villain. People would be talking about him like they do Ledger's Joker but TDKR had so many other characters that I think Bane was underused.
    Can't say I agree with that. He's not a terribly interesting villain, and I think perhaps his weird voice is the only thing that prevents him from being completely forgettable.
  • nickthegun 30 Jan 2013 14:58:05 64,311 posts
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    If the crowded cast caused anyone to be underused, it was The Batman.
  • Mola_Ram 30 Jan 2013 15:18:03 10,651 posts
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    I liked Catwoman, even if she didn't seem all that necessary plot-wise. She brought a bit of humour to proceedings, and I think more humour was very welcome.

    Particularly given how... well, I don't want to use the word "silly", but really there were a lot of things about the film that were silly, and for me that jarred with the pretty serious tone that it took throughout.
  • DUFFMAN5 24 May 2013 06:44:22 16,922 posts
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    The poorest of the trilogy for me. I still don't like Bale's mouth/chin combo! when wearing the cowl (to qualify Stallon's Dredd mouth/chin combo was spot on) actually I don't much care for the actor at all, although I do seem to like the films he is in.

    Thought Bain was underused, although I do not know enough of the Batman lore to know if he is one of Batman's main nemesis or should that be Nemisi.

    I though Hathaway was very good and looked mighty fine in the Catsuit. Hardy, well I kept getting flashbacks to the South Park parody, so hard to take seriously. Freeman and Cain were ok.

    Story was serviceable, set pieces ok. Batman/Bains confrontations were shite though. I still think BB is the best run very close by DK, and this trailing somewhat behind.
    So from me:
    70%




    p.s. posted in last film watched as well
  • SuperCoolEskimo 24 May 2013 09:35:30 10,374 posts
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    @DUFFMAN5 The South Park parody was hilarious, love that episode. I'm glad I watched TDKR before seeing that!
  • Baihu1983 24 May 2013 10:16:26 4,496 posts
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    Bane.
  • Triggerhappytel 20 Sep 2013 22:16:57 2,691 posts
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    Watching this right now. It's a bit overly dour and moody at the beginning, isn't it? Not sure what to make of Bane yet but Selina Kyle is great. Can't we jettison Bruce Wayne and have it be about Joseph Gordon-Levitt instead?

    And does Alfred only speak in monologues?!

    Edited by Triggerhappytel at 22:24:45 20-09-2013
  • Triggerhappytel 20 Sep 2013 22:27:53 2,691 posts
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    Oh, I see they've gone full-on comic book silliness with this one.
  • CharlieStCloud 21 Sep 2013 08:25:04 5,820 posts
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    I don't even watch these ones anymore.

    ... the original Burton Batman and Returns are so much better.

    I like Begins and thought the Joker was superb in Dark Knight however, the last one was just entirely forgettable.
  • Deleted user 21 September 2013 11:09:20
    Fucking hell. The original Burton batman are so awful they need to be burned in a fire and forgotten about. I know opinions are personal but I honestly think you have to be a bit spastic to prefer them to anything.
  • BeardedGamerUK 21 Sep 2013 11:14:15 1,973 posts
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    mowgli wrote:
    I know opinions are personal but I honestly think you have to be a bit spastic to prefer them to anything.
    Comment of the month :D And I totally agree with you! They're only slightly less comedies than the 1960's tv series.
  • Deleted user 21 September 2013 11:26:42
    It's not even about that. They are just awful films. They are shit standalone films, they are shit batman films. Fuck they are even shit Burton films and that is saying something. In don't need batman to be poe faced and gruff, I just need him not to be in a shit film.
  • Deleted user 21 September 2013 17:19:51
    mowgli wrote:
    It's not even about that. They are just awful films. They are shit standalone films, they are shit batman films. Fuck they are even shit Burton films and that is saying something. In don't need batman to be poe faced and gruff, I just need him not to be in a shit film.
    Shut the fuck up mowgli.  Burton rules, as do most of his Batman films, certainly the first one does.  It was a film that defined its era.  Or has your mommy only recently squeezed you out all over her chair?
  • sport 21 Sep 2013 17:46:04 13,066 posts
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    I use to enjoy films before joining EG. Now I deconstruct, I deconstruct as if the lives of my Internet friends depended on it.

    Edited by sport at 17:49:21 21-09-2013
  • ecu 21 Sep 2013 17:50:21 77,860 posts
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    Prometheus is better than TDKR.
  • MatMan562 21 Sep 2013 17:59:51 2,811 posts
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    I watched the Tim Burton Batman movies after seeing the Christopher Nolan Trilogy and I much preffered the first two to any of the more recent ones! I also much preffered Jack Nicholson's Joker to heath Ledger's. I do really like the Nolan films but I wish they didn't take themselves as seriously.

    I think we can all agree that we should completely destroy all evidence of the Batman & Robin film though...
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