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  • nickthegun 24 Jan 2013 10:41:40 61,784 posts
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    I genuinely think it was borne out of compromise. Nolan quite clearly wanted to kill him off in a noble sacrifice and WB told him 'no way, pedro'.

    So the stupid, ambiguous ending was conceived as a compromise.

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  • nickthegun 24 Jan 2013 10:48:27 61,784 posts
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    How can you sit in an autopilot?

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  • Deleted user 24 January 2013 10:54:47
    LeoliansBro wrote:
    oceanmotion wrote:
    Pointing out he fixed the autopilot makes it clear enough.
    Yeah, except they showed him sitting in the autopilot looking glum and then two seconds later...
    They show him sitting in the Bat, looking glum (probably can be excused as he is carrying a nuclear bomb over the city he is trying to protect), then over a massive sea and then they explain the autopilot has been fixed. I don't have the benefit of a film school education - ahem - but I'm pretty sure most films aren't played out in real time. Those two seconds later might just be for effect. I don't know though, I'm no Tonka.
  • krisbums 24 Jan 2013 10:56:23 12 posts
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  • nickthegun 24 Jan 2013 10:56:44 61,784 posts
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    Thats a good point, shouldnt the batplane have either been obliterated and/or irradiated? Even if it had sunk to the bottom of the sea in one piece they still shouldnt have been able to retrieve it.

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  • oceanmotion 24 Jan 2013 11:02:05 16,177 posts
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    Dramatic effect or the water is rather cold. If your counting seconds, the bomb should have gone off 10 mins before that.
  • morriss 26 Jan 2013 07:40:41 71,294 posts
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    The film is excellent and the best of the three.
  • Jeepers 26 Jan 2013 09:04:08 13,383 posts
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    morriss wrote:
    The film is excellent and the best of the three.
    /Joker laugh
  • nickthegun 26 Jan 2013 09:38:23 61,784 posts
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    Given how good the second one is, its hard to see how anyone can say that. In fact, its probably the worst of the three and by some margin.

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  • Deleted user 26 January 2013 11:01:56
    The more I see them the more I think the first is in fact the best. Certainly the least flawed.
  • Derblington 26 Jan 2013 11:03:05 22,480 posts
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    They all have a lot of very long bits when nothing of interest takes place. But maybe that's just Nolan.
  • Lukus 26 Jan 2013 11:05:12 19,524 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    The more I see them the more I think the first is in fact the best. Certainly the least flawed.
    It's definitely the most rounded.

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  • nickthegun 26 Jan 2013 11:35:10 61,784 posts
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    I think it is, ironically, because its the most comic like. A secret society of ninjas, gothic Gotham and batman being batman.

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  • morriss 26 Jan 2013 11:42:19 71,294 posts
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    I genuinely think it's the best one. Laugh it up etc.
  • Deleted user 26 January 2013 11:53:10
    1st then 3rd then 2nd imo.
  • morriss 26 Jan 2013 11:55:00 71,294 posts
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    Yeah, it's between 1st and 3rd, but Rises edges it for me.
  • Deleted user 26 January 2013 11:57:06
    I think Rises is brills, but for me TDK is by far the best, its in a different league of film imo.  Don't like Begins that much, for me Burtons Batman was better.
  • Deleted user 26 January 2013 12:15:33
    I struggle with Rises, I really do. Watching it with my bro who doesn't really know much about Batman really brought home the flaws. He enjoyed the other two a lot, but just found Rises incomprehensible. Ridiculous baddie, strange meandering plot with a nonsensical prison put thing, and generally a long and slightly boring film. He was massively disappointed and while I tried to justify all the things he didn't like, after a while I realised I was just making excuses for it.

    I think there's lots of good in there, but objectively speaking it's flawed at best.
  • morriss 26 Jan 2013 12:27:23 71,294 posts
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    Saw it twice, was better the second time. Bane was fantastic, the plot was fine. The 'holes' I simply didn't care about/didn't spoil the film for me. When I watched, they didn't pull me out of the atmosphere. Still, haven't seen it since it was released and maybe the small screen will make them all the more apparent.
  • Deleted user 26 January 2013 12:47:46
    I think if you compare Bane to the other villains from BB and TDK, he's not quite from the same set. If you know him from the comics he makes sense, but if you have no context then he's inexplicable. You just don't know what he's supposed to be, or why, and you can barely understand him. I don't think he works at all really.
  • Deleted user 26 January 2013 12:54:11
    Missus says Rises is her favourite. Found Bane to be an excellent villain, perfectly understandable and bloody scary. And she has never read a comic.
  • Deleted user 26 January 2013 13:01:15
    I think the third one is basically Rocky, but I can watch it again and again for some reason.
  • ecu 26 Jan 2013 13:14:36 77,382 posts
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    I think Batman Begins may be appreciated more by the hardcore Batman fans, ie. those who have read many of the comics.

    I enjoyed it, but I do think it suffered from the common superhero origin film problem, in that the origin story part is great, then it just feels like they're padding out the rest of the runtime. TDK is by far the best of the three imo. Joker is about the only truly interesting character in the whole set of films.
  • morriss 26 Jan 2013 13:15:26 71,294 posts
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    The film adequately explains what Bane is supposed to be and why. Imo obv.

    I'm probably missing some glaringly obvious thingy etc. but his role as the new head of the LoS coming back to Gotham to clean up etc is perfectly fine and coherent. I think his voice is awesome, too.

    But this is all obv due to me being blind and bias as it was a few months and 100 pages ago so there is no point is carrying on.
  • Lukus 26 Jan 2013 13:25:48 19,524 posts
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    I thought the character of Bane was completely undermined when the twist reveals he's little more than a bodyguard, essentially. The real brains/super villain being the woman whose name I forget.

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  • Deleted user 26 January 2013 13:30:44
    morriss wrote:
    The film adequately explains what Bane is supposed to be and why. Imo obv.

    I'm probably missing some glaringly obvious thingy etc. but his role as the new head of the LoS coming back to Gotham to clean up etc is perfectly fine and coherent. I think his voice is awesome, too.

    But this is all obv due to me being blind and bias as it was a few months and 100 pages ago so there is no point is carrying on.
    It's just a discussion. One you initiated in fact.
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