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  • Deleted user 10 August 2012 12:41:39
    Plus fuck Batman he's not even a real superhero.
  • kalel 10 Aug 2012 12:42:36 87,687 posts
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    Sure, but you'd probably be more tolerant of those cliches in a more comic book style film, like Avengers or something.

    Equally I suspect people are more tolerant of weird pacing and length when watching a David Lynch or Lars Von Trier film.
  • Bremenacht 10 Aug 2012 12:43:11 18,253 posts
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    Ultrasoundwave wrote:
    As far as the whole autopilot thing goes, with EVERYONE saying theres no chance of Batman surviving the blast, Nolan could have solved it with a simple line at the start of the movie :

    Have Lucius Fox say something like "Autopilot is still dysfunctional, but the good news is that the ejector pod has a four mile miniumum distance......"

    Would have saved soooooooo much bitching.
    Also, the possibility of there being more than one machine.
  • Bremenacht 10 Aug 2012 12:48:22 18,253 posts
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    Not using the rope to climb out of the pit bugged me. Stupid batman.

    And spinal reconstruction techniques in less than 50 days for long term prison-hole dwellers. Doh.

    Much rather it had just said "50 days later..." and showed him climbing out of the pit, to say 'I have fixed my back and escaped. Now, TO GOTHAM!' or something like that.

    Don't really care though - still enjoyed it.
  • StarchildHypocrethes 10 Aug 2012 13:00:22 25,862 posts
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    I just thought it was all a bit dull, to be honest.
  • damagedinc 10 Aug 2012 13:10:04 758 posts
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    By stealing applied science vehicles and tech from wayne towers not finally let the public know who batman is or did i miss something?
  • kalel 10 Aug 2012 13:16:32 87,687 posts
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    How the public haven't worked out who it is by the end is simply astonishing. The evidence is beyond overwhelming.
  • disusedgenius 10 Aug 2012 13:18:15 5,328 posts
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    Was there anyone left in the principle characters who didn't know? I swear every 15 minutes somebody managed to figure it out!
  • morriss 10 Aug 2012 13:30:22 70,978 posts
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    Blake figuring it out so easily was a Tim Drake reference. No-one else figured it out, iirc. Bane knew because of TLoS and Selina overheard.

    That's it, I think.
  • Deleted user 10 August 2012 13:37:35
    I thought Selina saw his mask being removed.
  • Dolly 10 Aug 2012 13:42:10 3,225 posts
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    Thought is was fucking ridiculous that Bats ended up with Catwoman at the end tbh. Bitch got his back broken and ended up getting him put in the prison?! Good morals or not on Bruces part, i like to think he's just pulling a 'Talia'. Alfred meets him at the cafe to slice her throat from behind during dessert.

    Edited by Dolly at 13:46:21 10-08-2012
  • morriss 10 Aug 2012 13:43:43 70,978 posts
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    Didn't she save his life in the end?
  • kalel 10 Aug 2012 13:44:09 87,687 posts
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    Tim Drake reference or not (not convinced) it's still weird only he can see what is so incredibly obvious.
  • disusedgenius 10 Aug 2012 14:00:09 5,328 posts
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    Gary Oldman also worked it out at the end (albeit after a VERY heavy hint). I mean, there's clear reasons for it all, but I can't think of a principle character who didn't know his identity at some point.
  • kalel 10 Aug 2012 14:03:12 87,687 posts
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    As a Superman fan my willing suspension of disbelief stretches pretty far when it comes to obvious secret identities. Even so, there is literally nobody else it could be. If anyone were to even start a conversation about who Batman might be, Bruce Wayne would be first on the list, especially during the period between TDK and DKR. He then makes it even more obvious by having both reappear after the hiatus within five muntes of each other.
  • morriss 10 Aug 2012 14:05:44 70,978 posts
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    Fair enough, I'm not sure what the beef is though. Although I'm not going to harp on about it as my feelings on the film/franchise are well-documented. :)
  • disusedgenius 10 Aug 2012 14:07:58 5,328 posts
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    It's just a minor quibble, to be honest - it just felt a little silly, enough to make me smile every time someone got told/worked it out.
  • StarchildHypocrethes 10 Aug 2012 14:11:28 25,862 posts
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    I actually thought that Gordon knew it from back in the first or second film, but just didnít really care, right up until the end where it showed him finally realising.

    Worst detective ever.
  • kalel 10 Aug 2012 14:14:35 87,687 posts
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    Yeah, me too. That bit in TDK when Wayne saves Reece from the car crash, Gordon blatantly knew and was all coy about it.

    Bit of a retcon that imo.
  • Mola_Ram 10 Aug 2012 14:23:22 7,394 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    I've been banging on about this since the first one, but the issue with all three films imo is the juxtaposition of silliness and seriousness.

    They're far too po-faced for you to accept the kind of nonsense you'd accept in most comic book films, and far too comic booky for you to take then as seriously as you would a lofty high-brow film.
    It was only with this one that the issue you mentioned really got to me. Like, that the silliness got to a point where I wondered whether Nolan actually wanted me to take the movie seriously or not. It just got too much, with the nuclear bombs and the villain that could have been a reject from a Bond movie.

    To be honest, there's only a certain amount of seriousness that one can take when making a film about a man who dresses up as a bat to fight crime. But I think the balance was slightly offset in DKR, and it was only somewhat alleviated by Catwoman's humor.
  • ecureuil 10 Aug 2012 14:26:13 76,809 posts
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    Bremenacht wrote:
    Not using the rope to climb out of the pit bugged me. Stupid batman.
    But the rope was only attached to halfway up the side of the wall.
  • nickthegun 10 Aug 2012 14:28:13 59,932 posts
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    I am 100% positive that the ending was an homage to this:

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    someone say something funny

  • morriss 10 Aug 2012 14:31:22 70,978 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    Bremenacht wrote:
    Not using the rope to climb out of the pit bugged me. Stupid batman.
    But the rope was only attached to halfway up the side of the wall.
    I might be thick, but wasn't not using the rope the whole point? Or have I read that line out of context?
  • StarchildHypocrethes 10 Aug 2012 14:31:35 25,862 posts
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    That is definitely the best Batman film.

    I never grow tired of it, it's ace.
  • damagedinc 10 Aug 2012 14:35:45 758 posts
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    Dolly wrote:
    Thought is was fucking ridiculous that Bats ended up with Catwoman at the end tbh. Bitch got his back broken and ended up getting him put in the prison?! Good morals or not on Bruces part, i like to think he's just pulling a 'Talia'. Alfred meets him at the cafe to slice her throat from behind during dessert.
    She had a clean break hence the usb stick of justice. Nothing to say they could have fallen for each other after. Plus the speed theory of falling for people when in intense situations. She also saved his life.
  • ecureuil 10 Aug 2012 14:36:27 76,809 posts
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    morriss wrote:
    ecureuil wrote:
    Bremenacht wrote:
    Not using the rope to climb out of the pit bugged me. Stupid batman.
    But the rope was only attached to halfway up the side of the wall.
    I might be thick, but wasn't not using the rope the whole point? Or have I read that line out of context?
    Yeah, it was.

    But to people saying "he should have just used to rope to climb out of the pit", he couldn't have done so. I looked out for this on second viewing and the rope is pinned to the wall about halfway up.
  • Bremenacht 10 Aug 2012 14:48:44 18,253 posts
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    Ah. Ok.
  • Zomoniac 10 Aug 2012 16:00:32 7,830 posts
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    @Dolly when did you come back?!
  • ecureuil 10 Aug 2012 17:17:06 76,809 posts
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    StarchildHypocrethes wrote:
    Batsuit Ė The new one looked a bit crap.
    Better?
  • morriss 10 Aug 2012 17:18:57 70,978 posts
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    Nice. Whwre's it from?
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