iTunes Store - What recording source do they use?

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  • Foregone-Reality 9 Apr 2010 03:39:30 2,218 posts
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    I'm just wondering is there any benefit to buying from iTunes as opposed to buying a CD and ripping it myself?

    I mean. It's obvious that the 256 VBR AAC would be far superior if it was encoded from a Studio Master as opposed to a CD.

    I always have this picture in my head of armies of Apple staff ripping thousands of CDs at any one time and uploading them onto iTunes for sale.
  • Hunam 9 Apr 2010 03:41:31 20,674 posts
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    I'd imagine that what ever they have is ripped from studio master tracks sent by the studio.
  • Dirtbox 9 Apr 2010 03:43:53 78,135 posts
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    Limewire.

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  • Foregone-Reality 9 Apr 2010 03:46:34 2,218 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Limewire.

    Ha! KNEW IT! :D

    But wouldn't Apple make a loss as the cost of using Limewire (spyware, Viruses and all) far outweighs any money made from 99 cent songs!

    Taking into account how they'd have to buy a Windows PC for Limewire to begin with ;).

    EDIT: Begin/Beign. It's all the same..!
  • neilka 9 Apr 2010 07:46:06 15,910 posts
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    Apple tape the songs off Radio 1 using their Bush hifi, sometimes you can hear Simon Bates talking at the start and end of tracks.

    A map is like comparing velocity and speed.

  • Foregone-Reality 10 Apr 2010 15:49:23 2,218 posts
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    Thanks for all of the thoughtful input guys. :)
  • heyyo 10 Apr 2010 15:54:54 14,373 posts
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    They download video off YouTube and rip the audio don't they?
  • Hunam 10 Apr 2010 15:56:00 20,674 posts
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    ecosse_011172 wrote:
    Hunam wrote:
    I'd imagine that what ever they have is ripped from studio master tracks sent by the studio.

    I'd say more likely the 16-bit 44.1 kHz PCM files

    That is the studio masters.
  • Foregone-Reality 11 Apr 2010 01:46:30 2,218 posts
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    Aren't studio masters 92 bit quality?

    /doesn't know much about these things.
  • Foregone-Reality 11 Apr 2010 01:47:08 2,218 posts
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    Either way it all comes down to me going out and buying the CDs instead. Shame, really; I was hoping iTunes had that one benefit over ripping the tracks myself.
  • Red-Moose 11 Apr 2010 01:51:24 5,346 posts
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    new releases will have high bit rate recordings. But, classic albums from > 10 years ago will not as the studio masters are like standard 16-bit PCM as mentioned above.

    In any case, I would always recommend buying the CD and making your own rip as you please. I find the lack of a physical medium with music that isn't techno or electronic somehow doesn't feel right.
  • warlockuk 11 Apr 2010 07:55:41 19,163 posts
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    Whenever I've looked on iTunes for stuff I've found that a lot of the time you can get the CD cheaper so you're basically paying for convenience...

    I'm a grumpy bastard.

  • warlockuk 11 Apr 2010 08:41:21 19,163 posts
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    Just had a look at the new Cathedral album; 7.99, you don't get the last track, track 10.
    The 2CD version is 9.99 on play (14 tracks).

    New Finntroll is 7.99 on iTunes and you don't get the last track. On play it's the same price for the full thing + cd and usual stuff.

    Otyg's Alvefard + Sagovindars Boning (giggidy) are 7.99 each, or you can get them both in a 2CD online for 10.99. I thing I got the 2CD in HMV, actually, for about a tenner or so in-store.

    I'm sure there's gotta be some stuff that's cheaper on iTunes but not cheap enough to warrant no physical copy IMO. I just picked three CDs at random that I'd listened to this week.

    I'm a grumpy bastard.

  • Slint1000 11 Apr 2010 08:53:55 3,078 posts
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    My favourite rip off by iTunes was a couple of weeks back when I looked up The Fall Peel Sessions boxset on there and it cost 49.99 to download which took me back a bit I must say.

    Went to my local independent record shop the next day and got all five CDs worth for 15.

    No thanks iTunes!

  • Deleted user 11 April 2010 09:21:12
    ecosse_011172 wrote:
    Hunam wrote:
    I'd imagine that what ever they have is ripped from studio master tracks sent by the studio.

    I'd say more likely the 16-bit 44.1 kHz PCM files
    CDs then :D
  • Kostabi 11 Apr 2010 09:51:20 4,925 posts
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    I can't remember when I used iTunes last as Amazon tend to be better priced these days for MP3 downloads.

    There are some bargains to be had on Amiestreet to, especially if you can spoof a US IP address.
  • Deleted user 11 April 2010 09:58:30
    Quality isn't as good though.
  • Kostabi 11 Apr 2010 10:26:45 4,925 posts
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    320kbps files from Amazon is still decent enough quality for my needs though, so I'll go with the cheaper option.
  • Deleted user 11 April 2010 10:50:07
    Yeah, six of one and all that.
  • warlockuk 11 Apr 2010 10:50:48 19,163 posts
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    Heh. The 320kbps files will be a higher quality than the mp3s from iTunes I think...

    I'm a grumpy bastard.

  • warlockuk 11 Apr 2010 10:51:16 19,163 posts
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    Also at that price you'd think iTunes would start supporting lossless formats...

    I'm a grumpy bastard.

  • Kostabi 11 Apr 2010 12:17:21 4,925 posts
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    ecosse_011172 wrote:
    Kostabi wrote:
    320kbps files from Amazon is still decent enough quality for my needs though, so I'll go with the cheaper option.

    Compare the prices with Amazon marketplace, you'll usually beat iTunes, have the cd and be able to rip however you want...

    But I wouldn't have it noooow.

    Download services have ruined my ability to be patient for the postman.
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