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Lukus wrote:Boo's only got the first two seasons, so guaranteed not to like it. It really only starts to hit its stride from season three onwards, and it's around six and seven that it really becomes awesome. It's quite an unusual sitcom in this respect in that it didn't have its best days very early on.
Boo won't like it. Fatiguez might.
I don't think it's dated really btw. Maybe in format in that it's live studio audience, but the kind of subject matter it deals with and the style of humour is still very fresh imo.
In the end it does come down to the quality of writing and the strength of the characters, and in these two respects, no other sitcom with that amount of episodes comes close. There are nine seasons of it, most of which had 24 episodes a season. That is astonishing. There are easily 50 classic episodes. Again, astonishing.
disusedgenius 6,383 posts
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Plus Seinfeld and David (when he was involved) were famously hands-on in terms of re-writing jokes and setting the tone. More or less all of the episodes went though them. Just in case you weren't astonished enough.
nickthegun 64,546 posts
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I watched the one with the toilet book the other day.
As funny as the day it was filmed.
I reckon you'd get the sense of the characters from a few episodes of a later series. That has to be better than ploughing through the first two season.
I do like the first two seasons, and The Pen is perhaps my favorite episode, but I think you have to return to them once you love the characters.
If you have the DVD's, the extra are well worth watching too. The commentaries not so much.
God, yeah. I'd never really seen Seinfeld when it was on TV, so I only started watching it after having bought the dvd boxset. I had just come off watching the first 4/5 seasons of Frasier at the time (which were absolutely golden), and my first impression of Seinfeld was that it was pretty shit.
I stuck with it, though (mostly because I was in college and had a tonne of weed to smoke, so I wasn't exactly going anywhere). Turned out to be completely brilliant. Oh, and the dvds are really high quality, loads of extras and an amazing job done on the picture restoration.
I guess in that way it reminds me of The Simpsons, in that the first couple of seasons are nigh-on unwatchable, knowing how good it gets later on.
That is exactly what happened to me the first time I tried to watch Seinfeld! It took a comedy drought of a few years to find the need to try it again. Turns out if you watch Seinfeld with a clean palate, it's quite watchable and sometimes very funny. I think Kalel is right in saying there about 50 classic episodes, and about half of them are hilariously funny. Whilst Fraiser is my favourite comedy show of all time, I reckon the same could be said of that.
Facepalm wrote:For me Curb has always been an extension of Seinfeld, and series 7 was an absolutely glorious culmination of that. The way it weaved them together with all the previous episodes of Curb echoing into Seinfeld was one of the most brilliant bits of TV i've ever seen. That last episode of season 7 is the absolute perfect end to both series. It's a real shame they carried on Curb past that point imo, much as I still love it.
I also liked how the seventh season of Curb was a genius way of bringing back Seinfeld without actually bringing it back.
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I'll give it a go at some point, then. I don't really have the inclination to get properly stuck into a show with 9 seasons at the moment, especially if it takes a while to click. I'm too should-be-busy to justify it now, anyway
Edited by Fatiguez at 18:29:09 21-02-2012
Trafford 6,898 posts
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So many fantastic sub plots and incidental characters. It really doesn't hit its stride until season 4 and 5.
Ok. 'Slow burn-ness' noted.
One of my favourite films is 'Lost In Translation', so I'm cool with things where nothing seems to happen.
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Trafford: Bob Sacamano!
HermanTheTosser 82 posts
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Brilliant sitcom. Quite possibly my favourite of them all.
For those of you who have Sky and don't already know, they're currently showing series one on Sky Atlantic.
Got back to my desk today to find Series 1 & 2 waiting for me.
Series 1 only has 5 eps!!
Still - they do appear to have put 13 hours of extras in there, so I guess that makes up for the shortfall.
The first series isn't great but the documentaries on it are.
Just watched the pilot.
My God it looks dated! Bouffant hair, women in shoulder pads, the whole shirt and jacket with jeans and no tie... I'm surprised he didn't have the jacket sleeves pushed up to the elbows!
But on the whole, not bad. Reasonably funny, and the only downside was the intrusive canned laughter over the 'stand up comedy' sections. Nothing that would indicate it would achieve legendary status, but I've certainly seen a lot worse.
Watched the 're-shot' pilot and the next two eps today.
Couldn't for the life of me see what the difference was between the two versions of the pilot, but there you go.
Enjoyed the next two - it zips along at a decent pace and the dialogue's good.
I like Jerry, although the perma-grin that looks like he's about to start corpsing is a little off-putting, but George is great.
Kramer's annoying; Elaine I'm undecided about. At the moment she's leaning towards 'also annoying', but it's only been three eps, so I'll give them all the benefit of the doubt.
Anyone who likes George should watch Curb Your Enthusiasm. It's better than Seinfeld.
Elaine is the best one.
I'm off to see Seinfeld do standup tonight. Excited!