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  • Lukus 20 Feb 2012 23:09:05 18,998 posts
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    Boo won't like it. Fatiguez might.

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  • kalel 21 Feb 2012 13:42:09 86,369 posts
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    Lukus wrote:
    Boo won't like it. Fatiguez might.
    Boo's only got the first two seasons, so guaranteed not to like it. It really only starts to hit its stride from season three onwards, and it's around six and seven that it really becomes awesome. It's quite an unusual sitcom in this respect in that it didn't have its best days very early on.

    I don't think it's dated really btw. Maybe in format in that it's live studio audience, but the kind of subject matter it deals with and the style of humour is still very fresh imo.

    In the end it does come down to the quality of writing and the strength of the characters, and in these two respects, no other sitcom with that amount of episodes comes close. There are nine seasons of it, most of which had 24 episodes a season. That is astonishing. There are easily 50 classic episodes. Again, astonishing.
  • disusedgenius 21 Feb 2012 13:45:06 5,218 posts
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    Plus Seinfeld and David (when he was involved) were famously hands-on in terms of re-writing jokes and setting the tone. More or less all of the episodes went though them. Just in case you weren't astonished enough.
  • nickthegun 21 Feb 2012 13:46:08 58,787 posts
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    I watched the one with the toilet book the other day.

    As funny as the day it was filmed.

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  • kalel 21 Feb 2012 13:50:06 86,369 posts
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    I reckon you'd get the sense of the characters from a few episodes of a later series. That has to be better than ploughing through the first two season.

    I do like the first two seasons, and The Pen is perhaps my favorite episode, but I think you have to return to them once you love the characters.
  • Jono62 21 Feb 2012 13:56:41 13,960 posts
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    If you have the DVD's, the extra are well worth watching too. The commentaries not so much.
  • Razz 21 Feb 2012 14:01:52 60,770 posts
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    Agreed

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  • cianchristopher 21 Feb 2012 14:08:31 6,360 posts
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    God, yeah. I'd never really seen Seinfeld when it was on TV, so I only started watching it after having bought the dvd boxset. I had just come off watching the first 4/5 seasons of Frasier at the time (which were absolutely golden), and my first impression of Seinfeld was that it was pretty shit.

    I stuck with it, though (mostly because I was in college and had a tonne of weed to smoke, so I wasn't exactly going anywhere). Turned out to be completely brilliant. Oh, and the dvds are really high quality, loads of extras and an amazing job done on the picture restoration.

    I guess in that way it reminds me of The Simpsons, in that the first couple of seasons are nigh-on unwatchable, knowing how good it gets later on.
  • Razz 21 Feb 2012 14:20:48 60,770 posts
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    That is exactly what happened to me the first time I tried to watch Seinfeld! :D It took a comedy drought of a few years to find the need to try it again. Turns out if you watch Seinfeld with a clean palate, it's quite watchable and sometimes very funny. I think Kalel is right in saying there about 50 classic episodes, and about half of them are hilariously funny. Whilst Fraiser is my favourite comedy show of all time, I reckon the same could be said of that.

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  • kalel 21 Feb 2012 14:31:33 86,369 posts
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    Facepalm wrote:
    I also liked how the seventh season of Curb was a genius way of bringing back Seinfeld without actually bringing it back. :D
    For me Curb has always been an extension of Seinfeld, and series 7 was an absolutely glorious culmination of that. The way it weaved them together with all the previous episodes of Curb echoing into Seinfeld was one of the most brilliant bits of TV i've ever seen. That last episode of season 7 is the absolute perfect end to both series. It's a real shame they carried on Curb past that point imo, much as I still love it.
  • Fatiguez 21 Feb 2012 18:28:50 8,707 posts
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    I'll give it a go at some point, then. I don't really have the inclination to get properly stuck into a show with 9 seasons at the moment, especially if it takes a while to click. I'm too should-be-busy to justify it now, anyway

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  • Trafford 21 Feb 2012 18:58:16 5,620 posts
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    So many fantastic sub plots and incidental characters. It really doesn't hit its stride until season 4 and 5.
  • boo 21 Feb 2012 19:09:57 11,705 posts
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    Ok. 'Slow burn-ness' noted.
    One of my favourite films is 'Lost In Translation', so I'm cool with things where nothing seems to happen.

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  • Tom_Servo 21 Feb 2012 19:55:50 17,330 posts
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    Trafford: Bob Sacamano!
  • HermanTheTosser 23 Feb 2012 17:43:00 82 posts
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    Brilliant sitcom. Quite possibly my favourite of them all.

    For those of you who have Sky and don't already know, they're currently showing series one on Sky Atlantic.
  • boo 24 Feb 2012 09:31:03 11,705 posts
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    Got back to my desk today to find Series 1 & 2 waiting for me.

    Series 1 only has 5 eps!!

    Still - they do appear to have put 13 hours of extras in there, so I guess that makes up for the shortfall.

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  • Jono62 24 Feb 2012 09:34:29 13,960 posts
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    The first series isn't great but the documentaries on it are.
  • boo 24 Feb 2012 14:16:35 11,705 posts
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    Just watched the pilot.
    My God it looks dated! Bouffant hair, women in shoulder pads, the whole shirt and jacket with jeans and no tie... I'm surprised he didn't have the jacket sleeves pushed up to the elbows!

    But on the whole, not bad. Reasonably funny, and the only downside was the intrusive canned laughter over the 'stand up comedy' sections. Nothing that would indicate it would achieve legendary status, but I've certainly seen a lot worse.

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  • boo 1 Mar 2012 14:11:13 11,705 posts
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    Watched the 're-shot' pilot and the next two eps today.
    Couldn't for the life of me see what the difference was between the two versions of the pilot, but there you go.

    Enjoyed the next two - it zips along at a decent pace and the dialogue's good.
    I like Jerry, although the perma-grin that looks like he's about to start corpsing is a little off-putting, but George is great.

    Kramer's annoying; Elaine I'm undecided about. At the moment she's leaning towards 'also annoying', but it's only been three eps, so I'll give them all the benefit of the doubt.

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  • Deleted user 1 March 2012 14:14:48
    Anyone who likes George should watch Curb Your Enthusiasm. It's better than Seinfeld.
  • kalel 1 Mar 2012 14:24:38 86,369 posts
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    Elaine is the best one.
  • Ka-blamo 16 Mar 2012 20:04:07 7,291 posts
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    Put Mastermind on now, the next guy's specialist subject is Seinfeld!
  • Ka-blamo 16 Mar 2012 20:10:34 7,291 posts
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    He did well, he only got one wrong...i got them all right :)
  • Lukus 11 May 2012 13:09:56 18,998 posts
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    I'm off to see Seinfeld do standup tonight. Excited!

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