Chopsen wrote:I think you hit the nail on the head there on both accounts. The "tedious minutia" is what hardcore players seem to prefer and casuals seem to dislike so I guess we'll never see a concensus on that.
IV was a good time sponge (but games had a tendency to get bogged down in tedious minutia), V is a nice change in direction for the series. They've all got their weaknesses. I think some people just wanted CivIV with better graphics. That would have been pointless.
And indeed, most people that complain about Civ5 seem to just want another Civ4.
Speaking of: is it me or is the Civ5 expansion adding the exact same things the Civ4 expansions did? That feels a bit cheap, I'd hoped they would add a few more entirely new concepts instead
And I never liked espionage in Civ. There, I said it.