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  • TheBlackDog 22 Jul 2014 10:46:45 393 posts
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    I procrastinated so much on the Garmin 220 that I missed it at 110, which, after the price went back up, I realised was a ridiculously cheap price and was the watch I really wanted! However, like a good consumer, I convinced myself/realised that I really need an adventure watch with running functions as well as gps navigation, compass, barometer for accurate altitude reading and huge battery life.

    That DC Rainmaker site is awesome for running watch reviews, and I eventually settled on a Suunto Ambit 2. Since they've just announced the Ambit 3 for September, there are some good prices for the Ambit 2, although I'm still going to have to wait until end August for a relative to bring it back from the US.
  • PES_Fanboy 22 Jul 2014 11:12:13 15,992 posts
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  • Lotos8ter 24 Jul 2014 11:29:50 2,359 posts
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    Does anyone know how to get the voice announcement of time elapsed and distance covered during a run on the Nike app on iphone pls?

    I used to press the centre button on my Nano to get an update but can't seem to get this on iphone and I struggle to see the screen when I'm running. Cheers

    Fiat Lux

  • Zomoniac 24 Jul 2014 11:55:38 7,831 posts
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    Lock the phone. If it's locked you'll get it each time you press the button. Otherwise there's an option in settings to get an announcement automatically at set intervals.
  • Lotos8ter 24 Jul 2014 15:09:45 2,359 posts
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    @Zomoniac - ah. Thanks mate, appreciated.

    Fiat Lux

  • ReGuRgIt8oR 28 Jul 2014 07:55:49 2,602 posts
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    Some nice big Nike+ syncing going on over the weekend guys ;)

    Now reached 2 million Nike Fuel points whatever that means.
  • Plant 9 Aug 2014 17:33:24 253 posts
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    Well, today's syncing put me out of the top three quite effectively. I'm finding the motivation to compete really compelling though. I'm not sure I'll manage the 100, I've already run more this month than I ever have!
  • TheBlackDog 9 Aug 2014 17:58:41 393 posts
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    Yeah - I like the motivation that the Challenge brings - and as this is my first, and probably last challenge, I've got to win it !

    I feel like a whinging old git but I'm finding the Nike app and website really shit compared to MapMyRun. Aside from functionality, GPS seems to drop more - the other day it was recording a km for roughly every quarter of a km I ran so I decided to delete that workout as I didn't want to cheat the challenge. From next month I'll be using a dedicated GPS watch that uploads to Strava, so unless I can export to Nike plus I don't think I'll be able to play :(
  • Plant 9 Aug 2014 18:07:05 253 posts
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    I think the apps probably more use than the website, but they're both rather shit. the gps is toss as well. I apparently ran a 1k in 1 min 15. Take that Lord Coe.
  • AccidentProne 9 Aug 2014 18:23:12 1,163 posts
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    @TheBlackDog I use a Garmin watch and still sync to Nike+ via this site. I found a Suunto to Nike+ uploader too, but apparently that's no longer working...

    Edited by AccidentProne at 18:24:35 09-08-2014
  • TheBlackDog 9 Aug 2014 19:44:55 393 posts
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    @AccidentProne cheers for that. Yeah, I saw one uploader that had stopped working because Nike changed something. The suunto site (movescount) automatically syncs with strava, so I'm hoping that I can export from at least one of them so I can continue doing the EG challenges.

    @Plant that's what mine was doing, really quick km's, which is weird because crap GPS usually sees me losing distance.
  • Findus 14 Aug 2014 13:07:12 144 posts
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    Can you super people give me some tips on speed running?

    I've been including them in my weekly runs so my training plan (My last half of the year). It says run 60 minutes and include 6-8 s short pickups. Are these flat out sprints or a slight increase? I've always been a bit of a plodder but I want to getting faster any tips?
  • SaucyGeoff 14 Aug 2014 15:07:02 2,576 posts
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    I do strides quite often, which I assume is pretty much the same thing. The idea is to accelerate gently over a distance, until you reach the point where you are going as quickly as you can while still staying relaxed, and hold that speed until the end of the rep.

    Practically, I usually do them over 30 seconds. Spend the first 20 seconds gently accelerating, then hold the speed for another 10 seconds. Then jog slowly for 90 seconds before going again.

    The key part is trying to stay relaxed, it's much easier said than done, so if you feel yourself tensing up/blown to pieces at the constant speed part then you aren't quite doing it right. As they're placed in the middle of what is already quite a long run, you should never feel like you are full on sprinting.
  • TheBlackDog 14 Aug 2014 16:19:36 393 posts
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    @Findus I used to be a plodder too because I thought it would enable me to cover as much distance as possible, just focusing on endurance. Now I've started entering races, I have the irrestible urge to be quicker too, but I've also found that including different paces in my training makes it more enjoyable. Obviously, its helped me increase the distance of my long runs because I'm covering ground more quickly, more efficiently. I've also realised how important speed work is in improving your (running related) strength, fitness and overall running ability - obvious really but I never wanted to do ANY speed work at the beginning. This should also, depending on what you do and over time, help you avoid injury. And you don't need much speed work to make a big difference.

    Like Saucy, I see pick-ups as strides, i.e. picking up the pace. You don't have to go flat out - maybe up to 85% of your max, but as well as making sure you are warmed up, build the intensity up over each set, so taking it easy with the first set and building it up. Saying that, your sets look quite short if that's meant to be 6 - 8 seconds - probably that short just as a starting point.

    Unlike Saucy, I tend not to do my speed work during a long or an otherwise high intensity run. Instead, I do speed work during shorter runs - so that would be a fartlek type run (fairly unstructured but changing the intensity at different points as I feel like it) over maybe 5 - 10 kms, including the slower pace to warm-up. Or, for hill sprints, I'll run to a suitable hill, maybe 3 kms to warm up, and do however many sets of hill sprints (walking back down each time, and also building up the effort with each set). Then a steady pace back home.

    I don't really enjoy structured interval training (having to do so many sets of a certain time or distance, with a certain amount of recovery in between sets) which is why I prefer to stretch the definition of fartlek training and do what I want :)

    The only other type of speed work I do is a 10 - 15k run at quite a consistently fast pace rather than plodding. And then I have my long run (25 - 40k) to plod, but even then, I'll try and change the pace around depending on the terrain and how I'm feeling, so that if I'm feeling really strong towards the end, I'll pick up the pace as I'm able (either overall increase in pace, or add bursts of speed on hills, etc).

    I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing speed work could be responsible for a fair chunk of running injuries for those who try and do too much, too quickly. Eventually, the more quality speed work you incorporate, the stronger you will be as a runner and therefore, you'll be more capable, but in the early days, take it easy. And the last thing I'd say is be aware of not losing your running form at any point of increasing speed, as then, you aren't doing it right - although, in actual fact, depending on whether you've spent much time looking at and building a deliberate running form, then you may find out new things when increasing speed that you want to incorporate in to your running form ! Getting a bit complicated now ...

    Here are some links with basic info on different types of basic speed work - I'd highly recommend trying to incorporate hill sprints at some point, whether its in your plan or not explained in more detail in the Brad Hudson article I've linked).

    Speed Work 1

    Tempo Run

    Speed Work 2

    Hill Sprints
  • ReGuRgIt8oR 30 Aug 2014 08:59:26 2,602 posts
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    Big "Well Done" to SaucyG for a very impressive run total for August.

    Hope you've got another one to sync to take you over the 200 miles for, afaik, a new thread record.
  • SaucyGeoff 31 Aug 2014 16:55:03 2,576 posts
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    @ReGuRgIt8oR Ha, thanks! Yep, been out for my final run of the month to cross the 200m barrier. All the training is for the Yorkshire marathon on 12th October. Not sure if it's realistic, but hoping to run 3h 10. All being well, I'll be close to 200 in September as well.
  • Vortex808 6 Sep 2014 19:13:00 7,148 posts
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    Christ. For the last week to ten days I've been coughing up all kinds of gunk, and am itching to get back running.

    Why won't it go away? It's too early for this type of cold FFS!
  • ryanclayton 6 Sep 2014 20:43:38 8 posts
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    alright EG runners, any tips for me, I'm stuck between two groups at my running club, the group ahead are running 8.30-9.30 min miles and the ones below are much slower than me, however I cant keep the pace with the quicke group so feel I'm not getting as much out of my running, it has been suggested going to the track will hep me get that extra bit of speed I need but I am not too sure, has anyone had any experience of track running and does it help any?

    I'm aiming for a sub 55 10k in November I'm willing to stick the work in and I have a decent endurance base, ran a few halfs so I just need to get quicker. Top tips?
  • TheBlackDog 6 Sep 2014 23:11:07 393 posts
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    Yeah, well done saucy, I don't think I did half of that in August. You obviously don't believe in tapering ;)

    I've got 34km in the mountains tomorrow, hardly any of it flat. I decided against the 60km when I had a practice run at the 34 and found it hard enough. Here is the course profile:

    Sancy

    First proper race I will have done (not counting a 28km race through a gorge about a month ago which wasn't anywhere near as steep as this). I'm thinking it'll be close to a marathon run on the flat so I'll be happy with 4 hours, although ominously the cut off is 9 hours and the median time for the same course last year is more than 5 hours I think.

    Edited by TheBlackDog at 23:13:20 06-09-2014
  • speedofthepuma 17 Sep 2014 01:40:29 13,299 posts
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    Hi everyone, I've just got a probe after some advice from mrpon, I'm new to the Nike + stuff, and would be keen to add friends somehow, or is there an EG community or challenge list still that I can somehow join - if so how?

    I lurk. If I've spoken to you, I'm either impassioned, or drunk.

  • mrpon 17 Sep 2014 08:16:24 28,920 posts
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    PM'd you speed.

    And please, not probe, foot sensor! Don't want people getting the wrong idea ;)

    Edited by mrpon at 08:17:03 17-09-2014

    Give yourself 5 or gig, you're worth it.

  • speedofthepuma 17 Sep 2014 08:21:15 13,299 posts
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    oops, keep saying probe, that's why I get funny looks..

    I lurk. If I've spoken to you, I'm either impassioned, or drunk.

  • TheBlackDog 17 Sep 2014 09:53:46 393 posts
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    speedofthepuma wrote:
    oops, keep saying probe, that's why I get funny looks..
    Nike+ butt plug ? :-) not sure if it would make you run faster or not. Let us know how it works out.
  • BravoGolf Moderator 18 Sep 2014 19:00:51 12,745 posts
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    How'd the 34k run go?
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