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  • LeoliansBro 9 Nov 2012 08:46:20 43,796 posts
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    Don't worry mate, it's still half term.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • Trowel 9 Nov 2012 13:34:00 17,595 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    Don't worry mate, it's still half term.
    :D
  • RobAnybody 11 Nov 2012 23:05:43 890 posts
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    Hmmm, bit of a mixed bag for me - some good parts, but a lot of bad ones too. Overall it was overly camp and too self-knowing. The one-liners mostly fell flat and the nods to the past felt forced and poorly implemented.

    Still, it was better than Quantum of Solace, but not on a patch on the far superior Casino Royale.

    Not sure where all the high praise is coming from to be honest.


    5/10

    Edited by RobAnybody at 09:09:22 12-11-2012
  • Mola_Ram 12 Nov 2012 01:57:03 7,222 posts
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    Loved the first scene. Always wonder with these things why they never stop the train, though. Do the drivers get executed if they're half an hour late or something? But it was a great action sequence regardless!
  • LeoliansBro 12 Nov 2012 08:07:55 43,796 posts
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    Well, either they couldn't get through to the driver, or (more likely) Bond was operating outside his legal jurisdiction. We never saw any evidence of the authorities in the chase earlier.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • Deleted user 12 November 2012 08:10:17
    If he had legal authority they would send loads of people in to get them and they wouldn't need to send Bond.
  • Mola_Ram 12 Nov 2012 08:26:12 7,222 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    Well, either they couldn't get through to the driver, or (more likely) Bond was operating outside his legal jurisdiction. We never saw any evidence of the authorities in the chase earlier.
    Well, I was thinking more when the bulldozer on the back started up and the back of one of the carriages was sheared off in front of a panicked group of passengers, why, wouldn't this be a fine time for the drivers to notice that something is up and stop the train?

    Of course, it wouldn't have been as exciting then. I just thought it would be amusing when the drivers got to the next station and had their own "The Front Fell Off" bit of explaining to do.

    Anyway, I really liked the movie. Wish they'd gone through with trying to get Sean Connery in there at the end, though.
  • brokenkey 12 Nov 2012 09:55:08 6,983 posts
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    Too much M. Thank god she's dead, hopefully future films will have M playing as much as part as he used to do (top and tail the story).

    Too much use of the word "bloody". Bloody unnecessary.

    Why didn't Bond just shoot him at the top of the ladder?

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  • roz123 12 Nov 2012 09:58:44 7,112 posts
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    brokenkey wrote:
    Too much M. Thank god she's dead, hopefully future films will have M playing as much as part as he used to do (top and tail the story).

    Too much use of the word "bloody". Bloody unnecessary.

    Why didn't Bond just shoot him at the top of the ladder?

    Why didn't he just blow up the place where bond was standing instead of trying to hit him with a falling tube train?
  • brokenkey 12 Nov 2012 10:13:30 6,983 posts
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    roz123 wrote:
    brokenkey wrote:
    Too much M. Thank god she's dead, hopefully future films will have M playing as much as part as he used to do (top and tail the story).

    Too much use of the word "bloody". Bloody unnecessary.

    Why didn't Bond just shoot him at the top of the ladder?

    Why didn't he just blow up the place where bond was standing instead of trying to hit him with a falling tube train?
    He wasn't really trying to kill Bond, he was trying to distract the police.

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  • Carlo 12 Nov 2012 10:25:11 17,996 posts
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    roz123 wrote:
    brokenkey wrote:
    Too much M. Thank god she's dead, hopefully future films will have M playing as much as part as he used to do (top and tail the story).

    Too much use of the word "bloody". Bloody unnecessary.

    Why didn't Bond just shoot him at the top of the ladder?

    Why didn't he just blow up the place where bond was standing instead of trying to hit him with a falling tube train?
    Fucks sake guys. Because he wanted to kill M, not Bond. he could have killed him many times, but he needed Bond to get to M. Half of the 'OMG plot holes' are because of the above, and because people are thinking it's something other than than killing M as publicly as possible that was motivating Silva.

    Everything, even leaving the trail to Shanghai and the sniper, then the casino chip, etc. were there to lure Bond to eventually find and capture Silva so he would be taken to M. He could then confront her in front of everyone, and finally escape and kill her.

    He was behind the plot to steal the secret agent's identities not to because he wanted them, or to expose them, but to embarrass her, and damage her reputation, just as she did to him so she would be stripped of her role in MI6, then executed by him in the most public way possible. During the enquiry into her ability to lead and defend England.

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  • roz123 12 Nov 2012 10:48:40 7,112 posts
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    He should have just broke into Ms house like Bond did at the start
  • TheSaint 12 Nov 2012 11:08:59 14,298 posts
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    Or made sure she was in her office when he blew it up.
  • roz123 12 Nov 2012 11:20:40 7,112 posts
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    It would have been a shorter film though. Wouldn't get to see Qs hacking skills. Bit of a schoolboy error though plugging Bardems computer into the MI6 network. You think the man who invented that hacking encryption bollocks ("GAINSBOROUGH" ) would be a bit more careful with the computer of the man who has already hacked MI6.

    Edited by roz123 at 11:21:26 12-11-2012
  • Bremenacht 12 Nov 2012 11:54:46 17,778 posts
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    I love how these anatomisations of films go

    It's stupid! He should have just shot her or pushed her under a bus in the first place.
    Then the film would be about Bond seeking revenge for M or something different.
    Then she shouldn't have got killed in the first place! It's stupid!
    etc.
  • Lotos8ter 14 Nov 2012 09:33:20 2,355 posts
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    roz123 wrote:
    He should have just broke into Ms house like Bond did at the start
    or camped outside Waitrose and waited til she came in for a bottle of Courvoisier brandy TM

    Edit - enjoyed the film, but as a paid up member of The Incredibles Fan Club, there was too much eulogising.

    Edited by Lotos8ter at 09:36:10 14-11-2012

    Fiat Lux

  • Luckyjim 14 Nov 2012 12:47:02 2,873 posts
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    I enjoyed it, in the main.

    I hear a lot of people moan that the film didn't show M being shot, as if film has to work that way. If it makes them feel better they can assume she died of a period.
  • Load_2.0 14 Nov 2012 19:54:44 19,139 posts
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    So I enjoyed this, problem was I had been waiting so long for this movie and it had such glowing recommendation that it could never live up to my expectations. Had some great moments and Bardem was amazing! Though it did feel like a reboot.

    Things I was not so fond of.

    Gratuitous Omega watch shots in the opening scene. I felt like I was watching an advert. I am the first to defend the franchise on product placement but it seemed excessive to me.

    A high tech glass prison, with a grate to an escape passage 2 feet away! Yeah, yeah I know plotholes are de rigueur for a Bond movie.

    The final showdown, I was praying that it wouldn't come down to a blast fest. Unfortunately that is exactly what happened. A ninja team and helicopter defeated by a groundsman, a geriatric and Bond.


    That said I love Bond so looking forward to watching this again on Blu-Ray.
  • Feanor 14 Nov 2012 20:29:34 14,141 posts
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    Anyone bought a Vaio after watching this?
  • CharlieStCloud 14 Nov 2012 22:28:03 5,202 posts
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    Feanor wrote:
    Anyone bought a Vaio after watching this?
    No, but I was dying for a pint of Heineken though.
  • Dan234 25 Nov 2012 23:46:21 2,232 posts
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    Well I want a Sony Xperia T.

    Just seen it. I didn't like it at all. I don't go to the cinema to watch someone go through an existential crisis, I'm going through that anyway.

    Couldn't he have dived when M gave the order to shoot as he was hearing it through his earpiece? How does he survive his fall into the waterfall, can't we see someone drag him out? Why does M have Bond's photo as her wallpaper on her laptop? M's home seems to have changed radically since the last time. Why does he wait several months to get rid of the depleted uranium shell? The new Q is a bit crap if he can't come up with anything apart from a gun with LEDs and a radio that looks like a little radio. Bond seems happy to let several people get killed (security guards in Shanghai and the the girl), what's happened between QoS and this film that's changed his character so much? Couldn't we have had an alligator pit instead of komodo dragons if we had to had an animal which ate people?

    Hate the baddy but then again I've never liked Bardem. The rogue agent in Goldeneye was much more believable than him. Typical planting a virus nonsense on a system he didn't know gets him out a place which only has electronic doors which he didn't know he'd be in. How come he knew where he would be taken to after being captured and set up the explosive years in advance in the right place to cause a diversion? With an empty tube train? If they take so much care to put Bond/MI6 in the real world (parliamentary commission, etc...) how real-world is it to just bugger off with the head of MI6 up to Scotland? In an car which if this set of films were a reboot he shouldn't even have yet? As soon as Bardem & Co show up he could have sent for help with his little radio or told someone to get up there ASAP with his Xperia. M and wossname could have got away if they didn't have a spotlight with them. Bond manages to spend quite a long time paddling round a 0ºc lake without getting hypothermia which is odd considering he's not in the best condition. And finally if the second half of the film was just to write Dench out of the Bond films, it never mattered before, M changed between films and Bond acknowledged that the new M had taken over the old M's role and Moneypenny and Felix changed (Felix even changed colour) and Bond never batted an eyelid.

    At least QoS made some sense when viewed back-to-back with Casino Royale, then this one comes along and craps on both of them. Having taken so much care to set up Bond back when he first started out as 007 why just throw it all away?

    Rant, moan.

    Edited: No, Bardem wasn't in QoS.

    Edited by Dan234 at 23:49:29 25-11-2012
  • DUFFMAN5 26 Nov 2012 08:27:01 14,567 posts
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    What I posted in the "movie last watched" thread
    Better than QoS not as good as CR. I loved the nods to 007 past. I though Bardem did a good job, reminded me a lot of Zorin both in looks and the way Bardem played Silva.
    Daniel Craig as great as ever as Bond, still always expect him to do a Sid James laugh at any moment mind you. The lead ladies were not as Hot as I would expect either, specially that M...
    Overall I would say very slightly disappointed, from all the feedback I was expecting this to be THE Bond movie, and although very good it was not.
    80%

    "Duffman the grey is thrusting in the direction of the problem! Oh, yeah!"

  • freedumb 16 Dec 2012 12:32:02 1,110 posts
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    Saw this last night. Was unimpressed, and at times, thought it was a mess. I was expecting it to be good, with Sam Mendes behind it and American Beauty and Road to Perdition in mind. Numerous plot holes and inconsistencies aside, which are par for the course in a Bond film, I was also expecting it to be restrained, and following the trend of being generally ground in reality, which was one of the positives.

    But it just felt very laboured and plodding to me, and several times my mind actually wondered off. Silva’s interrogation and escape scenes till his true objective was revealed were the best parts of the film, but the home alone scene that followed was quite dull. Naomie Harris as Moneypenny is cool though, very charismatic, likewise Fiennes is decent as the new M. Q’s not bad as well. I liked Ben Whishaw from The Hour, it was a good choice.

    I didn’t mind QoS, sure it wasn’t brilliant, but imo solid and better than I thought it would be (the trailers made it look like a poor version of Bourne on steroids), and this 1st viewing of Skyfall makes it look even better! Then again being indifferent to Casino Royale at the cinema, and years later watching it on tv and changing my mind, means a rewatch of Skfyall should be interesting. But I can already tell this isn’t as good as CR.

    Edited by freedumb at 12:34:44 16-12-2012
  • Scurrminator 2 Feb 2013 21:45:59 8,398 posts
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    Just watched this again and the whole section where he's off the grid at the start is the beach where I got married the year before it was filmed (he walks over the very spot in a night scene).
    BOND WEDDING!

    You dare to strike Scurrcules!?

  • Steve_Perry 2 Feb 2013 21:46:45 3,882 posts
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    Win.

    VIVA STEFANSEN

  • Deleted user 14 February 2013 12:37:33
    Still shocked this painfully average bond has somehow earned over 1 billion at teh box office, despite the comedy home alone ending

    How???

    I would say its easily Craigs worst bond film.

    Lets afce it if Silva wanted M so badly he could have broke into her flat, had a crap in her toilet, sat naked on her crouch and then waited for her to come in................"hello mommy"

    Edited by espibara at 12:39:51 14-02-2013
  • Mola_Ram 14 Feb 2013 12:38:40 7,222 posts
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    His worst? Quantum of Solace doesn't count or something?
  • Deleted user 14 February 2013 12:40:35
    @Mola_Ram

    Actually liked QoS especially as a companion piece to Casino Royale.

    Skyfall was zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  • nickthegun 14 Feb 2013 12:40:51 59,429 posts
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    No. Or Casino Royale.

    If you dont count either of them, its by far and away the worst Bond in the last 10 years.

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  • oceanmotion 14 Feb 2013 13:36:27 15,815 posts
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    I like the look of some scenes, sniper part, the end but the film is pretty bad and forgettable. QoS is also bad. There isn't much between them.

    I'm hoping Daniel Craig will stop sooner rather than later. The only thing on the horizon now is the big underground base to invade on some random island. Just get it over with.
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