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  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 09:12:31
    I have to say, I think I'd worry more about Rockstar stuff than anything else. Really it's not so much about content as the message. CoD is really unpleasant but as someone else said, there is at least a message of morality there (although yes, I wouldn't rely on games to teach your kids this).

    Rockstar stuff though is really twisted. It relies upon the player being old enough to understand the irony in the massively skewed morality in its games, and I think as long as it is a mature audience, that's fine, but for young kids there really is a danger that its sending them some extremely dangerous messages about what is and isn't ok. Think with things like GTA and RDR you want to look past the bad language and sex scenes and focus more on the extremely dubious moral standards of its characters.
  • spamdangled 5 Dec 2012 09:20:46 27,475 posts
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    Rockstar is a unique case though. At the heart of it, the message of GTA is crime doesn't pay and what goes around comes around, but in the end the open-ended nature of the games and that even sticking exclusively to the story will often mean sitting through 30-odd minimum hours of extreme violence, sex and organised crime, and it makes you wonder how many people, especially kids, even end up exposed to the final point of the whole thing and instead just experience an orgy of seriously fucked up human excesses.

    By contrast, while games such as cod and gow are violent, they are placed in the context of armed conflict, and with disturbing real-life images of blood soaked pavements, urban bombs etc plastered all over the news at five, it often feels to me that its a futile gesture to even try and prevent a kid from being exposed and the best you can do, as a responsible adult, is to provide guidance and education so that they at least come out the other end with a firm grasp of context, right and wrong.

    Edited by darkmorgado at 09:26:58 05-12-2012

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  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 09:21:58
    They are eighteen rated games.
  • ComradePete 5 Dec 2012 09:26:38 494 posts
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    ghostwhistler wrote:
    Big_G wrote:
    I'd encourage my kid to hit RDR, despite being violent the main plot pushes a pretty strong anti-violence message.
    if you're using video games to teach your kids moral messages you're beyond help.
    I don't see why - you just need to choose the right game.

    I'd maybe leave out anything rated 18 but there are plenty other games with an interesting message. The 2 Chibi Robo games spring to mind.
  • Gambit1977 5 Dec 2012 09:27:45 10,384 posts
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    I play games for the message they convey.
  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 09:28:31
    Reading back there, so call of duty and gears of war are acceptable for your children?
    Very judgemental I know but....that is fucked up and the old 'they will just play it somewhere else's' excuse is bullshit. It is just irresponsible parenting.

    ' oh Johnnys parents let him snort cocaine so he can do it with me at home '

    Edited by Pepsipop at 09:29:46 05-12-2012
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  • spamdangled 5 Dec 2012 09:29:20 27,475 posts
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    If its a choice between banning the game at home and having them play it elsewhere, or supervising their exposure and helping them interpret what they see and do in games, personally I would choose the latter every time.

    If anything I would say it's more irresponsible to naively assume blanket censorship is anything but counter-productive, particularly when a parent's duty is to educate a child and provide them with a balanced framework with which to interpret what rappens in the world around them. Censorship is as much about absolving yourself from having to tackle uncomfortable or difficult subjects s it is protecting children.

    Edited by darkmorgado at 09:36:04 05-12-2012

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  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 09:33:37
    Here son/daughter lets watch this rape scene together, now what are you thoughts?

    GTA, cod, gears, fc3 etc are all 18 for a great reason and it is a lazy attitude to just allow more exposure to this content in your own home because some other parents may allow it.

    So maybe one hour every week or two at little Johnnys house is bad so let's make it an hour a day at your own house to let them see ten times the violence, sex and drugs.
  • spamdangled 5 Dec 2012 09:38:44 27,475 posts
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    Pepsipop wrote:
    Here son/daughter lets watch this rape scene together, now what are you thoughts?

    GTA, cod, gears, fc3 etc are all 18 for a great reason and it is a lazy attitude to just allow more exposure to this content in your own home because some other parents may allow it.

    So maybe one hour every week or two at little Johnnys house is bad so let's make it an hour a day at your own house to let them see ten times the violence, sex and drugs.
    Its daft to assume an arbitrary line in the sand can be drawn and people's ability to deal with something is a universal "wake up on your 18th birthday and suddenly you can deal with it" truth.

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  • spamdangled 5 Dec 2012 09:40:31 27,475 posts
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    Anyway, the pros and cons of age restriction is a well flogged horse in these parts with more than its share of dedicated stables, so let's not stray too far off topic on a weekday Morning ;-)

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  • krushing 5 Dec 2012 09:48:49 777 posts
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    ModishNouns wrote:
    Nothing says '18' like a pimp roughing up a prostitute. Badtown.

    darkmorgado wrote:
    It should show up under "specials" rather than shotguns/ pistols (cant remember which the Bull is). You will need to pay the purchase fee to use it though.
    Cheers. I thought I'd checked in Specials. I'll have another look. I definitely got the popup and the star is filled in on the progress page.
    They're not under special but a separate class called Signature Weapons.
  • spamdangled 5 Dec 2012 09:50:47 27,475 posts
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    Thats the one, I knew it was something like that :)

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  • HarryPalmer 5 Dec 2012 10:03:09 3,585 posts
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    Killing Deer with grenades is hard.

    Had my first croc attack last night, that made me jump.

    Really enjoying this. I've only done one mission and I have no desire to do another until I've upgraded my equipment and got some decent weaponry.
  • McGeeza 5 Dec 2012 10:16:50 987 posts
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    Pepsipop wrote:
    Reading back there, so call of duty and gears of war are acceptable for your children?
    Very judgemental I know but....that is fucked up and the old 'they will just play it somewhere else's' excuse is bullshit. It is just irresponsible parenting.

    ' oh Johnnys parents let him snort cocaine so he can do it with me at home '
    Shush now. There's a good chap.
  • 1Dgaf 5 Dec 2012 10:19:18 3,976 posts
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    I got attacked by a crock on the first mission where you had to gather plants. I'd assumed that was scripted for that mission. Didn't it happen to anyone else?

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  • HarryPalmer 5 Dec 2012 10:23:05 3,585 posts
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    No. I got attacked whilst stalking deer by a rivers edge.
  • DUFFMAN5 5 Dec 2012 10:28:20 15,408 posts
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    1Dgaf wrote:
    I got attacked by a crock on the first mission where you had to gather plants. I'd assumed that was scripted for that mission. Didn't it happen to anyone else?
    No. I did kill a Bear though :(

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  • captbirdseye 5 Dec 2012 10:29:49 5,467 posts
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    @1Dgaf Nope, got attacked whilst skinning a goat, and also a crock ate a pig i was going to kill :D.

    Can you skin Giant Rays? I've killed tons of the bastards but can't skin them?

    PS
    I also wish this game had dinosaurs :(.

    Edited by captbirdseye at 10:31:04 05-12-2012
  • Fourwisemen 5 Dec 2012 10:30:23 193 posts
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    You knw you're enjoying a game when your dreams are disturbed by thoughts of revealing more map and hunting animals for fun...
  • FuzzyDuck 5 Dec 2012 10:33:16 4,925 posts
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    1Dgaf wrote:
    I got attacked by a crock on the first mission where you had to gather plants. I'd assumed that was scripted for that mission. Didn't it happen to anyone else?
    I'm about 15 to 18 hours in and have yet to see a single croc...
  • captbirdseye 5 Dec 2012 10:35:07 5,467 posts
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    FuzzyDuck wrote:
    1Dgaf wrote:
    I got attacked by a crock on the first mission where you had to gather plants. I'd assumed that was scripted for that mission. Didn't it happen to anyone else?
    I'm about 15 to 18 hours in and have yet to see a single croc...
    You can find them in small rivers or lagoons and they general stick close to the shore line pinching prey at the waters edge :D.
  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 10:35:53
    darkmorgado wrote:
    If its a choice between banning the game at home and having them play it elsewhere, or supervising their exposure and helping them interpret what they see and do in games, personally I would choose the latter every time.
    Those aren't the only choices though.

    If anything I would say it's more irresponsible to naively assume blanket censorship is anything but counter-productive, particularly when a parent's duty is to educate a child and provide them with a balanced framework with which to interpret what rappens in the world around them. Censorship is as much about absolving yourself from having to tackle uncomfortable or difficult subjects s it is protecting children.
    Again, the only choices aren't blanket censorship or full exposure under supervised conditions. Those are in fact the extremes, neither of which are very sensible.

    I think you're failing to understand that some children are just too young to understand certain concepts. You can do all the supervising you want but it just isn't right to expose kids to some things too early, and while you may not prevent them being exposed elsewhere that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to limit that exposure as much as possible.
  • spamdangled 5 Dec 2012 10:38:13 27,475 posts
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    They have a tendency to hide underwater around caves as well. Most of the time I've come across them is making way out of an area through a cave on the other side.

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  • spamdangled 5 Dec 2012 10:41:43 27,475 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    darkmorgado wrote:
    If its a choice between banning the game at home and having them play it elsewhere, or supervising their exposure and helping them interpret what they see and do in games, personally I would choose the latter every time.
    Those aren't the only choices though.

    If anything I would say it's more irresponsible to naively assume blanket censorship is anything but counter-productive, particularly when a parent's duty is to educate a child and provide them with a balanced framework with which to interpret what rappens in the world around them. Censorship is as much about absolving yourself from having to tackle uncomfortable or difficult subjects s it is protecting children.
    Again, the only choices aren't blanket censorship or full exposure under supervised conditions. Those are in fact the extremes, neither of which are very sensible.

    I think you're failing to understand that some children are just too young to understand certain concepts. You can do all the supervising you want but it just isn't right to expose kids to some things too early, and while you may not prevent them being exposed elsewhere that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to limit that exposure as much as possible.
    Oh no, I totally except that there needs to be sensible limits - I'm not about to start showing a toddler eraserhead or anything like that :-)

    Ultimately its a case of simply accepting that differrent people develop at different rates, the point at which they can handle more mature themes (even with supervision) is subject to change rather than being a fixed point.

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  • Vortex808 5 Dec 2012 10:42:49 7,585 posts
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    Finally got this delivered yesterday after it took a circuitous postal delivery route to get to mine.

    Fired it up for a bit, and it's really rather good, isn't it!

    Had a lot of fun skinning stuff and getting attacked by various wildlife while minding my own business too. Yet to meet a croc or shark though.

    After wasting some money buying a repair tool, knowing how important they were in FC2, then having wasted my money by unlocking it with my next tower, what's worth spending cash on?

    Also, and more importantly, are the maps you can buy wortth it? What items/loot do they show?

    How do you find relics? By exploration, or do they show up on your map if you get close like the diamonds used to let you know via the GPS in FC2?

    Edited by Vortex808 at 10:43:21 05-12-2012
  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 10:49:01
    I've resorted to buying weapons now as you only seem to unlock the crap ones at first with radio towers.
  • Deleted user 5 December 2012 10:52:39
    darkmorgado wrote:
    Ultimately its a case of simply accepting that differrent people develop at different rates, the point at which they can handle more mature themes (even with supervision) is subject to change rather than being a fixed point.
    Yes, although that wasn't actually the point in question. The issue is what you do in the face of the certainty that they'll be exposed to this content anyway.

    I don't think that much has actually changed since I was a kid. OK, internet makes everything more accessible and games are a thousand times more graphic, but there was still porno mags and video nasties and yes, violent games back in the 80s. My parents still managed to limit my exposure as much as possible, and even taught me to limit my own exposure. I knew what I should and shouldn't be seeing, and actually for the most part avoided a lot of stuff even if I did ge the opportunity to see it.

    Teens are a different matter mind.
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