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  • Futaba 21 Oct 2009 21:27:29 3,511 posts
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    Funny Games

    +1 for the thing

    As far back as I can remember I always wanted to be a ninja.

  • Articulate-Troll 21 Oct 2009 21:29:05 3,101 posts
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    PazJohnMitch wrote:
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    Ils (Them) is a brilliant, tense horror movie, which never resorts to gore for cheap thrills.

    That film is terrible!

    Eh? Don't know what you thought was so bad about it but I thought it was great, and the general consensus would seem to agree with me.
  • CosmicFuzz 21 Oct 2009 21:29:50 24,360 posts
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    Eden Lake - whilst there is blood and gore in it, that's not the focus of the film and definitely not where the tension and fear comes from. Probably the scariest film I've ever seen in my life I think. Was shaking in the cinema, and I love a good scare :(

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  • Dirtbox 21 Oct 2009 21:31:43 78,203 posts
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    PazJohnMitch wrote:
    BinaryBob101 wrote:
    The Mist.

    Let The Right One In, although I find it hard to classify as straight up horror.

    Coming soon, Paranormal Activity.

    Let The Right One In, is another brilliant vampire film. And I got a completely different impression of the film than most.

    Please do not read the following spoiler unless you have seen the film. It is such a large spoiler it would ruin the film. (And the film is brilliant and deserves to be watched).

    I fealt that the vampire girl was just using the boy. She essentially groomed him as a replacement for her last slave. (I felt that the man she refered to has her father was actually someone she had previously groomed. I got the impression they had been together since he was a child but he became a bit of a liability now he is older. So she replaced him). I know it was supposed to be a love story but I only saw one of the couple actually in love. She just seemed to be doing everything she could to gain his trust.
    Yeah, that's pretty much exactly as I saw it too.

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  • Futaba 21 Oct 2009 21:40:51 3,511 posts
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    The Shining is good too.

    As far back as I can remember I always wanted to be a ninja.

  • PazJohnMitch 21 Oct 2009 21:42:20 8,051 posts
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    You could always have a look at some films from the Japanese director Takeshi Miike.

    I think Audition is his only film which is an actual torture film. Oddly it is also his classiest film. (You should definitely avoid that one). I do warn you though even if his other films are not torture films they are not exactly comfortable to watch either.

    Ichi the Killer is one of his best films and should be the best place to start. (If you can cope with the twistedness then try Gozu and Visitor Q).
  • Fizzog 21 Oct 2009 21:43:14 4,108 posts
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    Don't Look Now

    Lost Highway

    Blue Velvet

    Mulholland Drive
  • PazJohnMitch 21 Oct 2009 21:51:57 8,051 posts
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    Articulate-Troll wrote:
    PazJohnMitch wrote:
    Articulate-Troll wrote:
    Ils (Them) is a brilliant, tense horror movie, which never resorts to gore for cheap thrills.

    That film is terrible!

    Eh? Don't know what you thought was so bad about it but I thought it was great, and the general consensus would seem to agree with me.

    It does not deserve anywhere near the amount of praise it gets.

    You would probably like a French film called Switchblade Romance which is a similar type of film which also reviewed well despite been little more than a rehash of far superior Asian films.

    If you have not seen it yet watch A Tale of Two Sisters and then come and tell me that Them is not derivative shite with a contrived twist.
  • Errol 21 Oct 2009 21:55:07 12,483 posts
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    What's wrong with torture porn?
  • LFMartins 21 Oct 2009 21:57:12 5,704 posts
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    I canīt see how someone could compare A Tale Of Two Sisters with Them. They are two completely different movies, almost in different genres.
  • PazJohnMitch 21 Oct 2009 22:06:32 8,051 posts
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    LFMartins wrote:
    I canīt see how someone could compare A Tale Of Two Sisters with Them. They are two completely different movies, almost in different genres.

    I can see what you are saying and I will try to explain:

    For me A Tale of Two Sisters is an intelligent psychological horror and Them was billed as an intelligent shock horror. Therefore I watched it with a few of my friends expecting to be blow away by a well structured plot.

    I was expecting a version of Scream that was as smart as A Tale of Two Sisters and I got a version of Scream that was no more intelligent than the original but with all of the tempo removed. It was not what we were expecting and we all hated it.
  • blue_room 21 Oct 2009 22:08:38 97 posts
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    reeker has a fairly standard horror set-up, but is well executed, and definately worth a watch..

    against all the odds midnight meat train isnt that bad, but it is kinda verging on torture horror.. v v violent at the least.
  • VandelayIndustries 21 Oct 2009 22:09:34 1,523 posts
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    May and Hard Candy are both worth a look. As someone else pointed out, The Mist is very good (especially if you get it on BD as it comes in both colour & B&W). Also, 30 days of Night is top class schlock too.
  • Fizzog 21 Oct 2009 22:12:26 4,108 posts
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    Anyone seen Splinter? The trailer looked quite good but I haven't heard anything about it since then.
  • blue_room 21 Oct 2009 22:13:00 97 posts
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    finally got round to watching the japanese version of the Grudge the other day - that scared the shit out of me more than any horror film i've seen in years, and theres very little blood in that.

    That little bastard!!
  • LFMartins 21 Oct 2009 22:13:33 5,704 posts
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    Well, the Them is not an intelligent movie. Itīs a very good thriller with an unexpected twist but itīs not a movie that requires different viewings to fully understand every detail.
    I bet that if you had gone in with different expectations, you would probably would have enjoyed it more.

    Oh, and i also fully support that Hard Candy recommendation. A great movie with an amazing perfomance by Ellen Page.
  • Articulate-Troll 21 Oct 2009 22:14:12 3,101 posts
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    PazJohnMitch wrote:
    Articulate-Troll wrote:
    PazJohnMitch wrote:
    Articulate-Troll wrote:
    Ils (Them) is a brilliant, tense horror movie, which never resorts to gore for cheap thrills.

    That film is terrible!

    Eh? Don't know what you thought was so bad about it but I thought it was great, and the general consensus would seem to agree with me.

    It does not deserve anywhere near the amount of praise it gets.

    You would probably like a French film called Switchblade Romance which is a similar type of film which also reviewed well despite been little more than a rehash of far superior Asian films.

    If you have not seen it yet watch A Tale of Two Sisters and then come and tell me that Them is not derivative shite with a contrived twist.

    Actually I've seen both films. Switch Blade Romance/High Tension is okay but it has lots of silly gross out moments and the twist is awful; I don't know how you could say the twist in Ils is contrived (even though it's based on a real story) but recommend Haute Tension.

    A Tale of Two Sisters is a great film, but it's good only because it focuses on the characters. The actual horror elements are fairly uninspired and borrow quite liberally from Japanese horror. As LFMartins said, it really has nothing in common with Ils, so they shouldn't be compared.

    Oh, and recommending Ichi the Killer? It's not really a horror or thriller, and has lots of gore - the complete opposite of what Tonka is looking for.
  • blue_room 21 Oct 2009 22:15:42 97 posts
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    the happening.

    *snicker*
  • PearOfAnguish 21 Oct 2009 22:19:20 7,296 posts
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    Fizzog wrote:
    Anyone seen Splinter? The trailer looked quite good but I haven't heard anything about it since then.

    Yeah, I quite enjoyed it, the creature effects are really fucking creepy and quite original.

    blue_room wrote:
    the happening.

    *snicker*

    That's scary.

    It's scary to imagine that someone handed over money for a movie about Marky Mark running from the wind.
  • LFMartins 21 Oct 2009 22:19:38 5,704 posts
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    I think i explained why the horror bits in ATOTS were so unoriginal in "Rate..." thread.

    Thereīs no ghost, it was all in the girlīs mind so of course that her vision of the ghost of her mother will be the same thatīs used by the Eastern culture.
  • PazJohnMitch 21 Oct 2009 22:31:25 8,051 posts
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    Articulate-Troll wrote:

    Actually I've seen both films. Switch Blade Romance/High Tension is okay but it has lots of silly gross out moments and the twist is awful; I don't know how you could say the twist in Ils is contrived (even though it's based on a real story) but recommend Haute Tension.


    Well we agree about Switch Blade Romance. (Which I was suggesting to you not Tonka). For me the twist in Them was even worse than the Switch Blade Romance one. I thought they were as bad as each other. So I figured if you liked Them then you would like SBR. (I was wrong).

    Although at least the twist in Them was actually possible unlike the SBR one.
  • Articulate-Troll 21 Oct 2009 22:35:31 3,101 posts
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    LFMartins wrote:
    I think i explained why the horror bits in ATOTS were so unoriginal in "Rate..." thread.

    Thereīs no ghost, it was all in the girlīs mind so of course that her vision of the ghost of her mother will be the same thatīs used by the Eastern culture.

    I think you give the film's creator's too much credit. Asian horror existed long before long dark-haired girls started crawling all over houses.

    To be fair the horror in most of the film is quite decent, even if it's unoriginal. It's only the one scene with the mother crawling out of the wardrobe that's quite jarring.
  • LFMartins 21 Oct 2009 22:43:02 5,704 posts
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    Maybe but iīm almost sure i saw that on the DVD. Iīm going to have to check it again.
    Did anyone watched the crappy american remake? It was fucking awful.
  • PazJohnMitch 21 Oct 2009 22:43:49 8,051 posts
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    Articulate-Troll wrote:

    To be fair the horror in most of the film is quite decent, even if it's unoriginal. It's only the one scene with the mother crawling out of the wardrobe that's quite jarring.

    I do not think that scene was not in the version I watched? There was a bit where you think you someone under the kitchen sink but it was too fast to actually see anything. Or was it in the flash back section near the end when you find out the girl discovered her mum had hung herself in the wardrobe.
  • LFMartins 21 Oct 2009 22:45:59 5,704 posts
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    I think heīs maybe talking about the scene in the end when the stepmother goes into the room with the wardrobe where the mother killed herself.
  • Articulate-Troll 21 Oct 2009 22:48:34 3,101 posts
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    LFMartins wrote:
    I think heīs maybe talking about the scene in the end when the stepmother goes into the room with the wardrobe where the mother killed herself.

    Yep, that's what I'm talking about.
  • Deleted user 21 October 2009 22:53:14
    'A Tale Of Two Sisters' gets my vote, little in the way of unnecessary gore, just complete atmosphere and genuine frights.
  • skuzzbag 21 Oct 2009 22:56:44 5,644 posts
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    Misery
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    Both thrillers as my wife hates horrors so they never get rented.
  • MetalDog 21 Oct 2009 23:01:15 23,697 posts
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    I tried to explain the phrase 'torture porn' to a friend recently. Could not make him understand that it isn't about sexual arousal, even when using the M&S 'food porn' ads as an example.

    -- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.

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