The Zelda: Four Swords Thread

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  • Tiger_Walts 23 Jul 2004 23:00:59 16,257 posts
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    Played the first part of 4 Swords, I thought I was getting the plus version (with Tetra's Trackers) but I didn't :|, in the single player mode, it's excellent.

    If you liked Chrystal Chronicles then you'll absolutely adore Four Swords on the Game Cube. If you didn't like Chrystal Chronicles then you'll absolutely adore Four Swords on the Game Cube. It's that good.

    There are 2 game modes, the main Hyrulean Adventure and the strictly multiplayer Shadow Battles. The main adventure sees Link retrieving the Four Sword in order to save it's seven protectors, including Zelda. In doing so he is split into 4 Links with 4 swords but, this releases the evil Vaati. The 4 Links must release the 7 protectors from their bondage before he can be defeated, however the agent provocateur (no, not the underwear) who captured them is a mysterious Shadow Link and causes no end of trouble.

    Play is simple but very different for multiple players. In multiplayer, each player has to use a GBA connected to the console, they can then directly control their Link onscreen. Should they enter a house or dungeon, the screen still displays the outside world, the player continues using the GBA screen. This allows the players to split up, should they move farther apart, the visible part of Hyrule will scale up and down accordingly. This also means the rooms are not frozen in time or reset, drop a bomb then leave the room, it'll still detonate even if noone is there to see it.

    If there are only 2 or 3 players then both or one of the players will be assigned 2 Links respectively. Players controlling 2 or 4 (Single Player) Links can either have their Links moving in a follow the leader fashion with only the head Link interacting with the environment or they can assign one of 4 formations. In this mode all Links will perform their actions simultaneously. This includes the usage of the special items that can be picked up.

    A player can only carry one at a time, but all Links in his party will have one. Different players can each carry a different one though. This will probably result in a mad scramble for the best items, however, sometimes it's the most mundane item that is required to progress so there is a payoff, not as bad as being a bucket-boy. In the single player game, the player can use either a GBA or a normal console pad. When using a pad, a GBA window will appear on the screen when dungeons are entered.

    The game is structured into levels, at the end of each level there is a magical barrier left by Vaati, to breech it the 4 Links must have amassed a collective target of Force Gems to power the Four Sword. Force Gems are found and collected in the same way Rupees in previous games are. Cutting or burning grass and hedges, lifting rocks and dispatching enemies. Reach the end of a level without enough gems and you will have the option to be sent back to beginning to collect more gems, when you hit the limit you will be transported back to the end of the level. The enemies yield the most gems as at certain points you will be trapped in an area with about a hundred (Yes that's 100) baddies to despatch. The results in a frantic slash fest to be rid of them. More gems will appear if a player can amass a combo, this is done by killing numerous enemies without losing any health. When this mass stamped of baddies is finished off hundreds of gems will fall from the sky and, since each player is ranked by their personal tally this becomes a mad dash to collect as much as possible.

    Not only are the players awarded for their kleptomania but they are also judged by their partners. At the end of a level players will vote for the most helpful and least helpful player. They will be awarded and penalised respectively.

    The Shadow Battles is best likened to Power Stone. It's a last man standing contest set in a largish area with houses and caves to enter. Players have all the special items at their disposal plus a few more tricks that can be pulled. For instance, enter a house and attack the chicken within. This will trigger a swarm of feathered fowl to descend upon anyoune still outside.

    Don't forget to bring your GBAs and link cables to PeejLAN, this is one experience you don't want to miss.

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  • Sid-Nice 23 Jul 2004 23:14:25 15,390 posts
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    Tony Mott gave the Japanese version of this game a 10/10, mainly for the multi-player game. Sounds great, are you allowed to take Gamecube stuff to the PeejLAN? Reading what people were bringing, I thought it was Xbox PC and retro, no fun allowed. :)

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  • Tiger_Walts 23 Jul 2004 23:18:51 16,257 posts
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    I'm bringing my cube, a GBA, 2 (possibly 3 if I find it) GBA-GC leads and a few games, There are 1 or 2 other people bringing cubes too.

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  • Sid-Nice 24 Jul 2004 00:09:12 15,390 posts
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    I wish I could make it Tiger, I've got some great Cube multi-player games. I would also like to link 4 Cubes together using the B/B adapter for 1080, MKDD: I've got Pac-Man Vs and haven't even tried it yet.
    Those who aren't experienced in on-line or LAN gaming, can easily pick up Mario Golf, Beech Spikers, Sega Soccer Slam, Super Monkey Ball, MKDD:, Mario Party 4/5 etc.

    I was trying to talk my son round to see if he and his flat mates fancied coming, they play a lot of MOH and C&C on-line, also they have 3 PCs in their flat and do a lot of LAN as well. If we managed to get down we'd bring 4 PCs an Xbox 2 Cubes 7 conrollers, 4 Wavebirds, 42" TV, DVD Player with 5.1 speakers on stands, 4 Xbox games and 50 Cube titles. They have 2 cars and a Ford Transit van, so we should fit it all in. But a Stag party to my son and his friends means one thing " DRINK "

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  • timo180 24 Jul 2004 00:32:25 2,686 posts
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    So, when is four swords out over here then? Is it worth it for the single player game alone? I don't know anybody who has a GBA apart from myself so i was wondering is the single player game as godd as it is with the other people?
  • Daryoon 24 Jul 2004 00:52:57 4,435 posts
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    I heard the multiplayer was playable without GBAs, and the mini screens instead appeared onscreen. Is this not the case now?
  • timo180 24 Jul 2004 14:06:12 2,686 posts
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    rhythm wrote:
    Is this the GC game that links up with the GBA ones or something?

    /is confused

    Game have the GC one pencilled in for March
    Yea, that's the one. March!! That's ages away.
  • Daryoon 24 Jul 2004 14:23:26 4,435 posts
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    Play has it scheduled for November
  • Tiger_Walts 24 Jul 2004 14:50:59 16,257 posts
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    Multiplayer is GBA only. GBA windows appearing onscreen would just get in the way. A GBA window only appears if you are playing alone with a joypad. The single player alone is worth it. The only drawback is with the puzzle elements as you can only carry one special item at a time, that can result in a bit of back-tracking.

    can't wait to play the multiplayer mode :D :D :D


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    Edited by Tiger_Walts at 09:01:13 26-07-2004

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  • Tiger_Walts 26 Jul 2004 10:02:28 16,257 posts
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    KABUMP! for those who have lives at the weekend.

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  • Neverness 26 Jul 2004 11:04:32 1,186 posts
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    Good morning people.

    Agree with Tiger on this one, it is indeed fantastic. I’ve been playing around with the Japanese version for a few weeks now (in anticipation) and it is just a joy to play. Even if I have no idea what is going on.

    I have only played it in one player, but even then it is a great game (like 4 swords on the GBA I guess), can’t wait for the PAL version to arrive to be honest.

    Tetras Trackers isn’t in the western version due to translation issues I believe. Shame really because it looks like it could be fun.

    On a side note, Paper Mario 2 was released in Japan last week and is selling rather well. It is also rather brilliant apparently.
  • Aga 26 Jul 2004 16:54:25 2,148 posts
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    Tiger_Walts wrote: This also means the rooms are not frozen in time or reset, drop a bomb then leave the room, it'll still detonate even if noone is there to see it.
    Isnt this like the tree falling in the forest?
  • Tiger_Walts 26 Jul 2004 18:09:17 16,257 posts
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    Aga wrote:
    Tiger_Walts wrote: This also means the rooms are not frozen in time or reset, drop a bomb then leave the room, it'll still detonate even if noone is there to see it.
    Isnt this like the tree falling in the forest?
    No, because you still hear it. A bit muffled though.

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  • Neverness 26 Jul 2004 18:40:25 1,186 posts
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    Aga wrote:
    Tiger_Walts wrote: This also means the rooms are not frozen in time or reset, drop a bomb then leave the room, it'll still detonate even if noone is there to see it.
    Isnt this like the tree falling in the forest?
    Also in later puzzles you have to fire arrows through doors (into or out of buildings) to trip switches. Strangly cool firing an arrow on the GBAs screen and watching it hit a switch on the TVs screen.
  • Hicksy 2 Aug 2004 12:23:57 2,585 posts
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    I started playing this this weekend and it's superb!

    Class A Zelda goodness - the brilliant simplicity of 16bit gaming with the gloss and finish of a modern title. It's extremely addictive and constantly makes me smile.

    I am playing it single player so cannot comment on the linkup features but the single player game is very enjoyable and having four zeldas is top fun - it really freshens the game with an air of strategy.

    I thoroughly recommend it - 9/10 from Hicksy :D
  • Tiger_Walts 8 Dec 2004 10:00:45 16,257 posts
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    4 Swords + Children = Screaming

    Lots of it.

    "Kill! kill! kill! kill!"

    Make it stop!

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  • Tiger_Walts 6 Jan 2005 12:28:09 16,257 posts
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    Bumpage for imminent release.

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  • Nemesis 6 Jan 2005 12:44:55 18,327 posts
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    /gives a little nudge.

    16 credit note is burning a hole. Zelda calls.
  • Aga 6 Jan 2005 13:37:59 2,148 posts
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    SO eh, 4 swords was a GBA title? And now it is released for the GC? But you still need GBA to play multi?
  • Daryoon 6 Jan 2005 17:15:18 4,435 posts
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    Remember, this is the game that shows how Ganondorf becomes PIG WIZARD!!!
  • Blerk Moderator 7 Jan 2005 15:33:24 47,768 posts
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    Hmm... sounds a bit like how the 'four links, single-player' bits of Minish Cap work.

    I will get it, I think. But I also think I will wait 'til it gets a bit cheaper.
  • Daryoon 7 Jan 2005 15:40:03 4,435 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    Hmm... sounds a bit like how the 'four links, single-player' bits of Minish Cap work.

    I will get it, I think. But I also think I will wait 'til it gets a bit cheaper.
    I believe that's because they're part of the same series. tMC - Four Swords - Four Swords Advance, all having Vaati as the principle villain, though obviously FSA put an end to that plot thread...
  • The Button 7 Jan 2005 16:53:35 799 posts
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    Makes me wish I had 4 friends with GBA's :(
  • Nemesis 11 Jan 2005 12:17:07 18,327 posts
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    /reports in.

    Well after a hectic weekend, the kids managed to sit down with Z4S and it was a riot.

    2 player means you control 2 links. So you're faced with having to help each other (pushing stones requiring 4 Links) to the mad scramble for gems.

    Also, going into the dungeons and the GBA screen taking over is pure genius and flawless. I was watching it all work from afar (only 2 link cables) and it was excellent.

    I know some people feel the GC/GBA linkup is all bollocks, but when you see it work and work WELL you understand the reasoning. In Zelda it's flawless.

    Sound is classic Zelda.

    Graphics are classic Zelda with a mixture of newer GC features. So you get zooming in and out depending on the distance between players, you get some really funky lighting effects and you get all the sprites you loved from the SNES and GBA.

    I've yet to play it just as a singleplayer, but I'll let you know!
  • Sid-Nice 11 Jan 2005 15:19:40 15,390 posts
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    This beautiful little game hasn't even managed to show in the top 40 all format chart, it did make No36 in the full price chart. Perhaps people are still feeling the strain from Christmas. There's certainly no justice in the world of videogames. :(

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  • Blerk Moderator 11 Jan 2005 15:49:24 47,768 posts
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    It's probably Nintendo's own fault. They've gone out of their way to make this look like a multiplayer-only title. Even now I'm still confused as to just what the single-player game is like.

    Multiplayer-only titles just don't sell. Especially ones that appear to need GBAs.

    I didn't buy it, I'm in the 'wait and see' camp. I imagine a lot of other people are too.
  • Nemesis 11 Jan 2005 16:07:46 18,327 posts
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    Weird, isn't it.

    I'm in the position whereby the kids already have GBAs, so it's no additional cost.

    You do get another link cable in the box, so that saves a couple of quid.

    As they are only over every other week, I'll have to see what single player is like. I kinda want to finish Minish first as it's bloody fantastic. Got stuck on one bit, but I'm through it now.
  • Sid-Nice 13 Jan 2005 06:29:07 15,390 posts
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    Well I've been playing the single player and it's great. I only wanted to have a quick shot, before me and the kids sit down to a multi-player game, but I couldn't put it down. Great stuff.

    NNID Sid-Nice

  • coderkind 30 Jan 2005 18:07:37 970 posts
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    Can anyone confirm that all versions of this include a GBA link cable?

    I saw it for sale in HMV over the weekend, and the box had a cable included, but seeing it on sale online doesn't mention it at all.

    Anyone order it online from the usual sites and have a cable included?
  • Garwoofoo 30 Jan 2005 19:33:29 263 posts
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    I ordered it from Simply Games and it came with a cable.

    I was a bit pissed off as I'd specifically bought a second link cable the day before for use with Four Swords. So now I've got three. Sodding useless website. :)
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