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  • Rodpad 20 Jun 2014 12:20:21 2,039 posts
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    1GB of video memory is going to fuck you over. Go for a 2GB 760 at the very least.
  • -cerberus- 20 Jun 2014 13:01:04 3,330 posts
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    @Roddles No, I have a 760 ;) The Sapphire card is for a cheapass Linux build I'm working on for both my father and me.

    Edited by -cerberus- at 13:01:26 20-06-2014

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  • Rodpad 20 Jun 2014 13:17:57 2,039 posts
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    Well what games are you going to be playing on this Linux build?
  • -cerberus- 20 Jun 2014 13:22:20 3,330 posts
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    @Roddles Don't have much to choose from as of yet, I'm kinda new to Linux so Amnesia and Gone Home are all I have for now. Mostly stuff like that...

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  • Rodpad 20 Jun 2014 13:27:30 2,039 posts
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    That card should be just fine then.
  • Jetset_UK 20 Jun 2014 19:45:28 3,568 posts
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    It's upgrade time, so just thought I'd run this past you guys before I click order....


    550W Corsair Enthusiast Series TX550M - 60

    Gigabyte GA-H81M-D2V - 35

    3GB MSI Radeon R9 280X - 210

    Arctic Cooling Freezer 11i - 17

    Intel Core i5 4590 - 143

    Will be using the RAM and 2xSSDs and a 1TB HD from the old one.

    Any thoughts?
  • Dirtbox 20 Jun 2014 19:48:31 78,745 posts
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    -cerberus- wrote:
    @Roddles No, I have a 760 ;) The Sapphire card is for a cheapass Linux build I'm working on for both my father and me.
    Don't get an AMD for linux, the driver support is pathetic and you'll never get anywhere near all of the performance out of it.

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  • -cerberus- 20 Jun 2014 20:04:29 3,330 posts
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    @Dirtbox Yeah, I noticed :lol: It's like a severely stripped down version of what you'd see on Windows... I kinda fell in love with AMD hardware though, so I'm rather curious to see what the 250 has to offer.

    Played a bit of the Amnesia demo earlier using the Athlon 5350 I put in the build; it handles it suprisingly well.

    Edited by -cerberus- at 20:06:53 20-06-2014

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  • monkehhh 21 Jun 2014 16:47:23 3,468 posts
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    monkehhh wrote:
    Cheers, some good options. I'm off round tomorrow to see what they actually want and try to stop them buying some random 486 off Gumtree.
    Had a chat and explained some stuff and I reckon more like 500 / 550 quid is their actual budget - did a quick price up of an i5 that was a bit over 500 all in (minus OS, monitor, keyboard and mouse) and he didn't seem to shocked. Any ideas for an MMO / 1080p gaming machine? I'm particularly not up on which graphics card to recommend at that range.
  • Mekanik 24 Jun 2014 18:43:08 3,688 posts
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    Some assistance if possible.

    Its the boys birthday next week and ive promised to upgrade his pc.

    Buying this:

    Intel Core i5 4670K Quad Core Retail CPU Haswell + a Zalman cooler.

    My question is for a motherboard. Looking at either:

    Asus Z87-K C2 or

    Gigabyte Z87-HD3

    Is either one a good option or 1 a better choice than the other?

    Any help would be nice. If there is a better recommendation anyone has also open to hear it. MB around 80 quid price range.
  • Bowzer43 24 Jun 2014 19:37:46 498 posts
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    @Mekanik I've got the Asus board you're looking at with an i5-4670k. Asus software over clocks really easily in Windows and I like the fact you can crossfire amd cards on it. I got a r9-270x with a view to add a 2nd one at a later date. I prefer Asus over gigabyte but that's a personal preference. I just find Asus really well built and has always been really reliable (had several of them over the years).
    The boy shouldn't have any complaints with your choice!
  • -cerberus- 24 Jun 2014 19:38:27 3,330 posts
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    @Mekanik Both are very good budget mobo's but personally I tend to always choose the board with the extra USB3.0 & audio ports which, in this case, is the Gigabyte model.

    Edited by -cerberus- at 19:39:41 24-06-2014

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  • Dirtbox 24 Jun 2014 23:01:42 78,745 posts
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    Asus have never served me well, they pop caps in no time, however, they're great if you like to overclock a bit.

    Gigabyte are as solid as they come, but the overclocking doesn't have a lot of the safeguards that Asus have. Aside from that they are better boards all round.

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  • Mekanik 24 Jun 2014 23:31:36 3,688 posts
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    Thanks for the speedy replies fellas. Will give me something to ponder in work tomorrow.
  • TVoJ 24 Jun 2014 23:33:46 2,026 posts
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    +1 for Gigabyte. Never let me down.
  • PenguinJim 25 Jun 2014 08:59:47 5,940 posts
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    You might get better price/performance from an Asrock board. The Z87 Pro4 has enough gubbins and HDMI-in for 73. Or if you want M.2 compatibility, their Z97 Pro4 is 83. Pretend this sentence is some anecdotal evidence from me.
  • Buztafen 25 Jun 2014 09:22:26 16,454 posts
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    There's always MSI for Mobo's. Same price as the Gigabyte but comes with 2 more USB on the back! Ooooooooo.
  • PenguinJim 25 Jun 2014 09:26:20 5,940 posts
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    No HDMI-in! LOSER!
  • Buztafen 25 Jun 2014 09:31:17 16,454 posts
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    What if he doesn't...you know...want HDMI-in!
  • PenguinJim 25 Jun 2014 09:35:38 5,940 posts
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    Who doesn't want HDMI-in?!?! Mods have to lock duplicate threads here at EG on an almost daily basis, "I want HDMI-in", "Please recommend me a good HDMI-in", "HELP! ONLY HDMI-OUT", etc.
  • Buztafen 25 Jun 2014 09:46:24 16,454 posts
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    I've seen them...they're all created by YOU!
  • zoolophage 25 Jun 2014 10:00:02 2,011 posts
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    Looking for some advice. I've been thinking of replacing my ageing laptop with a desktop pc. I can currently play most stuff in my steam library on it (Geforce 9600MGT 512mb, Intel Core Duo 8400 @ 2.27GHz, 4GB RAM) but it runs hot, and gets a bit noisy and chuggy on certain games. I'm mostly playing point and click adventures, indie, and strategy games like Europa Universalis and Crusader Kings as well as simulation and other reasonably untaxing stuff. I'd like to be able to very comfortably play EU4 on 1920x1080 for example but it's a bit of a stretch at the moment.

    I guess that because it's so old that almost any new pc setup will blow it out of the water. Just wondering what kind of stuff I should be looking at, what would be enough for my requirements, and not total overkill given that I won't be playing FPS, racing games or other incredbily system taxing games. Any ideas how much I need to spend to get a pc that will cover my requirements? Or should I simply stick with my current laptop until I reach the point where I cannot actualy play the types of games that I want to play?

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  • -cerberus- 25 Jun 2014 10:32:36 3,330 posts
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    @zoolophage Got a budget in mind? Makes it a little bit easier to recommend the right hardware.

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  • zoolophage 25 Jun 2014 10:34:24 2,011 posts
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    @-cerberus-

    Up to 800 or so would be fine. Any advice much appreciated.

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  • monkehhh 25 Jun 2014 10:43:46 3,468 posts
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    Does that include everything? (screen, OS, peripherals?)
  • zoolophage 25 Jun 2014 10:51:18 2,011 posts
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    @monkehhh

    I already have an ssd with windows 7 in my laptop which I could perhaps transfer over to the desktop pc. Although I don't know if I'd need some kind of adapter for the drive to make it work. I also have a mouse and keyboard. The price would need to include a screen.

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  • -cerberus- 25 Jun 2014 10:52:06 3,330 posts
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    @zoolophage You can build a fairly powerful gaming system with that. However, I wouldn't spend all that money on hardware but save some to buy a load of games. That's all personal preference, of course. Does form factor matter to you?

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  • zoolophage 25 Jun 2014 10:55:38 2,011 posts
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    @-cerberus-

    Form factor isn't very important as it will be used in a spare room so space etc. isn't really an issue. Still, it'd be better if it was quieter rather than louder.

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  • -cerberus- 25 Jun 2014 14:19:36 3,330 posts
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    @zoolophage In that case I'd look into AMD's FX series of processors (socket AM3+). Something like the FX 6350 and pair it with a GTX 750ti or a GTX 760 perhaps?

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  • Mekanik 25 Jun 2014 16:57:43 3,688 posts
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    I went for the gigabyte board. Stuff should all arrive on Friday.

    So, being a bit of a software noob. Putting it together will be a doddle, but as i`m using the same HDD whats the deal with drivers etc? Do I need to re-install windows? Best to just format the HDD and start afresh? Just boot up after putting in the new bits then install the right drivers? Un-install the current mobo drivers first? etc.

    Sorry for poor questions but in the past when i`ve upgraded usually ive replaced the majority of stuff with the exception of the case/PSU or its just been a memory/graphics card upgrade.
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