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  • ibenam 4 Jun 2014 23:19:26 1,534 posts
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    I'm looking for an All in One PC to replace my old Dell Studio 19 AIO.

    Ideally I'm looking for one with an i5 processor and capable of being wall mounted.

    I came across this one on Amazon and the specs look the business for the price!

    Amazon

    Only negative I can see is that it has on-board graphics but I'm not going to be gaming on it so that won't be an issue.

    Thoughts on specs - am I missing something glaringly obvious?

    Also I've never heard of "zoostorm", has anyone dealt with them previously?
  • drhickman1983 9 Jun 2014 09:51:03 552 posts
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    This forum seems like a decent place to ask this question.

    I'm currently have an AMD FX6300 and the stock fan is a bit whiny, so was wondering if anyone could reccomend a decent, quiter cooler.

    I have no plans to overclock, so I shouldn't need extreme cooling (though obviously better cooling is... better).

    According to my specs my case can fit up to 148.5mm coolers.

    Bonus points if it can use the stock AMD mounting bracket. I reckon I could change it if need be, but I have no confidence in my ability to take things apart and reassemble them.

    Edited by drhickman1983 at 09:51:42 09-06-2014
  • PenguinJim 9 Jun 2014 09:54:59 6,003 posts
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    I got the 20 Hyper 212 EVO recently, which is excellent for cooling, and has plenty of people online saying it's silent, but I can hear a slight thrum from it (the rest of my PC is silent to my ears). I might change the fan on it at some point.
  • drhickman1983 9 Jun 2014 10:08:58 552 posts
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    The 212 EVO is too tall, I'm afraid. It seems to be a very popular cooler, but it's 158mm, so it's not gonna fit, I'd need another 10mm of space.
  • PenguinJim 9 Jun 2014 10:10:33 6,003 posts
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    Hmmmm... do you have a Dremel or similar rotary tool?
  • drhickman1983 9 Jun 2014 10:13:59 552 posts
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    Nope, I know people who could probably lend me one though.
  • PenguinJim 9 Jun 2014 10:14:41 6,003 posts
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    That wasn't serious, sorry. :D
  • Phattso Moderator 9 Jun 2014 10:20:21 13,920 posts
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    Maybe he could just gnaw a few centimeters off the top using his teeth? ;)
  • MMMarmite 9 Jun 2014 11:52:15 1,108 posts
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    ibenam wrote:Also I've never heard of "zoostorm", has anyone dealt with them previously?
    Might be a bit late but yes, they are shockingly shit. Our company bought a couple of desktops as budget gaming machines and it was a big mistake.

    The PSU in one of the desktops wasn't suitable (250W) for the graphics card they'd installed so powered off as soon as you put load on the GPU, sent it in for replacement and they claimed nothing was wrong with it and wanted 25 to return it as-is. After a few arguments we got the PC back without having to pay the 25 and surprise surprise they'd replaced the PSU with a 500W version. We binned them a few months later when the same PC suffered from cracking on the GPU fan mounts.

    They use the cheapest components imaginable so if you want something that will last, I'd advise looking elsewhere.
  • drhickman1983 9 Jun 2014 13:52:02 552 posts
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    PenguinJim wrote:
    That wasn't serious, sorry. :D
    Oh, a joke. I get joke :p

    Kind of tempted to buy a refurbished Corsair closed water loop thing. Not really needed, though it might be quiter. Although given my level of technical competance I'm not sure I should be putting liquid any near my computer, might be better if I stick to air cooling.

    Also, even at a refurbished price it's a bit pricey.

    Hm, my search continues.
  • PenguinJim 9 Jun 2014 14:09:46 6,003 posts
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    I've been thinking about it a bit more, and if you DO dremel a 212 EVO-shaped hole in your case's side panel, it would have the benefit of shunting some heat directly out of the case. ;)
  • drhickman1983 9 Jun 2014 19:13:23 552 posts
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    Well, the dremel is always an option.

    Though the 212 does seem to have a smaller brother in the TX3 Evo, which also seems to have good reviews. As a bonus it appears to just clip onto the stock AMD bracket.

    That does seem tempting.
  • Sharzam 9 Jun 2014 19:26:18 3,350 posts
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    If space is a premium and you still want serious cooling, what about water cooling ?

    Personally i would never risk it but then again i tend to have monster cases so air flow isn't an issue. Funnily enourgh i actually have the Hyper 212+ with Push & Pull fans.

    Known as 'Sharzam' in 98.5% of games

  • drhickman1983 9 Jun 2014 19:33:34 552 posts
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    well, its not so much that I want "serious" cooling, more that I want quieter cooling. As far as I can tell my stock cooler is keeping things cool reasonably well, but can get quite annoying if I play more demanding games for an extended perioud of time. It's the tone of the fan as much as the volume.

    I have looked at some refurbished corsair water coolers (can't afford "new" water cooling loops). They generally seem easy to install, looking at guides it seems easier than some air coolers I've considered.

    But I've also read some scare stories which has put me off using them, even though it seems most people have had a trouble free experience with them.

    To be honest, unless anyone has advice on something else I'll probably go for the TX3 EVO.

    Edited by drhickman1983 at 19:35:36 09-06-2014
  • whatthefu 11 Jun 2014 16:45:14 878 posts
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    Well, touch wood, I've finally installed an after market cpu cooler properly.
    I used Arctic 5 paste instead of some cheap white crap that came with the fan and I applied a 'pea' of paste, which covered it perfectly.
    The previous attempt I cleaned up beforehand.. the paste was really poorly distributed.
    No signs of overheating last night or today :)
  • b0rk 11 Jun 2014 17:27:29 2,942 posts
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    What cooler did you use?
  • whatthefu 11 Jun 2014 19:44:52 878 posts
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    Arctic Freezer 13.
    Not the quietest really, but it works ok since I put the paste on right.
  • b0rk 11 Jun 2014 19:48:16 2,942 posts
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    Better than the stock cooler.
  • Bleasy 11 Jun 2014 20:27:22 15 posts
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    http://www.tesco.com/direct/coleman-5205-758-cooler-blue-5qt/717-8468.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=717-8468&sc_cmp=pcp_GSF_Shop%20by%20Room_717-8468kpid=717-8468&sc_cmp=ppc_g__&gclid=CjkKEQjw_N-cBRD2k73X3OjJ8eMBEiQAbdPicyjqiGswPyUyn2HIKVoScKeWj38ORSDQqlMGd7DRXQjw_wcB
  • b0rk 11 Jun 2014 20:32:04 2,942 posts
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    -_-
  • monkehhh 19 Jun 2014 16:53:12 3,497 posts
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    Ideas for a cheap but not shit setup for playing things like Elder Scrolls Online / WoW / MMO type stuff? I've been asked but I'm not sure how far to go when helping other people decide as I probably wouldn't scrimp as much if it was for me!
  • Rodpad 19 Jun 2014 17:02:48 2,092 posts
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    Budget?
  • monkehhh 19 Jun 2014 19:45:32 3,497 posts
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    Erm, I really don't know. Ignoring OS and peripherals, what's a minimum price for a decent MMO system? Sorry for being shitly vague.
  • TVoJ 20 Jun 2014 08:42:34 2,040 posts
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    I reckon you could build something to p!ay all that crap fairly decently for between 200-250 easily. Again, it depend on their budget really.
  • Rodpad 20 Jun 2014 08:47:16 2,092 posts
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    Without a budget I can't really recommend anything.
  • monkehhh 20 Jun 2014 08:57:41 3,497 posts
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    Say, 300 - 350?
  • Sharzam 20 Jun 2014 09:01:36 3,350 posts
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    Sure why not.

    If MMOs are the focus don't skimp on ram and CPU, both can be bottlenecks with MMOs.

    You don't need to spend all your money on a monster GPU either. But still keep the system in balance.

    Known as 'Sharzam' in 98.5% of games

  • Dirtbox 20 Jun 2014 09:02:39 79,167 posts
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    You'll probably have to go all AMD for that price.

    There are some okay bearbone bundles around that might do the trick. http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/barebones/bb-63008b.html isn't too poor, you should put whatever you have left on as much of a graphics card as you can afford.

    http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/barebones/bb-68008h.html will save you a little more, but it's not all that upwardly mobile.

    http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/barebones/bb-44608.html is Intel and a decent happy medium and will allow a good amount of upgrading.

    The sweet spot for a good all round graphics card is about the 120 mark for AMD cards. 150 for nvidia.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 09:15:15 20-06-2014

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  • monkehhh 20 Jun 2014 10:06:41 3,497 posts
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    Cheers, some good options. I'm off round tomorrow to see what they actually want and try to stop them buying some random 486 off Gumtree.

    Edited by monkehhh at 10:07:11 20-06-2014
  • -cerberus- 20 Jun 2014 12:03:15 3,589 posts
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    Is anyone here using a Sapphire R7 250 1GB GDDR5 with Boost? Thoughts about performance & fan noise, please?

    People are bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

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