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  • RobTheBuilder 25 Nov 2012 10:16:47 6,521 posts
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    The 7850 XFX 1GB version with a bunch of free games (listed above) is worth a look too.
  • Tomo 25 Nov 2012 13:08:41 13,910 posts
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    Thanks for the advice btw gys. 7850 and oodle of games ordered!
  • kadooosh 29 Nov 2012 22:12:06 1,404 posts
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    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMDGB-FX-6200-Six-Core-Gaming-Pc-Computer-500Gb-4Gb-ATI-HD-7850-2GB-Mars-R-/120963447834?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item1c29fbbc1a

    On a budget.... is this a waste of money??
  • kadooosh 1 Dec 2012 12:23:49 1,404 posts
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    @rodpad cool. Is 4gig of ram enough for gaming? Not hard core but enough to play smoothly?
  • Deleted user 1 December 2012 12:25:53
    4 Gig is plenty, at least until new consoles come out and PCs have to start trying again. It's easy enough to get more later.
  • Moot_Point 1 Dec 2012 12:27:35 4,072 posts
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    4Gb is a bare minimum, so I would add some extra.

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  • RobTheBuilder 1 Dec 2012 12:38:58 6,521 posts
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    @kadooosh 4Gb is alright given you have a 2gb GFX card, but you can get 8GB of decent RAM for 30, so it's no hassle to upgrade.
  • kadooosh 1 Dec 2012 15:34:56 1,404 posts
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    @RobTheBuilder sweet. This is the one then! Now just got to get an Os as cheap as pos!
  • RobTheBuilder 1 Dec 2012 16:14:47 6,521 posts
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    @kadooosh If you buy it with the ram you might be able to get the cheaper oem version
  • oibignose 1 Dec 2012 16:33:22 7 posts
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    If you want a cheap OS get hold of the release preview version (free) of windows 8. The licence on this lasts until Jan 2013. You can then buy direct from Microsoft the full windows 8 pro version for just £25. This is the full version and does not require any other previous windows licence. I'm running it on my new budget build right now and I actually rather like it.
  • MMMarmite 1 Dec 2012 16:58:06 1,036 posts
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    oibignose wrote:
    If you want a cheap OS get hold of the release preview version (free) of windows 8. The licence on this lasts until Jan 2013. You can then buy direct from Microsoft the full windows 8 pro version for just £25. This is the full version and does not require any other previous windows licence. I'm running it on my new budget build right now and I actually rather like it.
    Common misconception, technically Microsoft's terms state that you need to have a previous version licensed (i.e. an OEM sticker on your PC), but most people don't bother since it's not enforced and most would kill before paying for Windows ;)

    Edit: 75 on Ebuyer for Windows 8, and you don't need to buy anything with it - I'm pretty sure I read that they relaxed that restriction on retailers.

    Edited by MMMarmite at 17:07:54 01-12-2012
  • kadooosh 1 Dec 2012 17:07:57 1,404 posts
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    @oibignose this definitely work? If so, I'm sold.
  • MMMarmite 1 Dec 2012 17:20:57 1,036 posts
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    @kadooosh it should work, but you'll have to find a copy of the release preview - most likely in torrent form.
  • kadooosh 1 Dec 2012 17:38:17 1,404 posts
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    @MMMarmite awesome cheers
  • inni786 1 Dec 2012 21:18:00 133 posts
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    evening all,

    need some advise please with regards to a graphic card upgrade.
    I have an old Alienware pc that I bought a few years back which has a E6400 cpu, 4gb of ram, 750w power supply with x2 8800gtx cards.
    Recently these cards have given me problems where they are starting to heat up causing graphical issues on screen.
    I'm on a fairly tight budget and wanted some advise on which graphics card I should get at around 50-60.
    I don't play that much games on pc as its mainly on consoles but do like the odd FPS games like counter strike, L4D2 etc so nothing intensive....will be looking to building a new pc when more money is available but for now just need something cheap and decent to get me by.
    thanks
  • oibignose 1 Dec 2012 21:35:32 7 posts
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    @kadooosh I didn't believe it myself as I was only using the Release Preview whilst waiting to find a good deal on a oem version of windows 7 but I gave it a try and now have a fully legal and Pro version of Windows for 25. Not sure where you can still get hold of the release preview though.
  • Bremenacht 1 Dec 2012 21:48:02 18,242 posts
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    inni786 wrote:
    evening all,

    need some advise please with regards to a graphic card upgrade.
    I have an old Alienware pc that I bought a few years back which has a E6400 cpu, 4gb of ram, 750w power supply with x2 8800gtx cards.
    Recently these cards have given me problems where they are starting to heat up causing graphical issues on screen.
    I'm on a fairly tight budget and wanted some advise on which graphics card I should get at around 50-60.
    I don't play that much games on pc as its mainly on consoles but do like the odd FPS games like counter strike, L4D2 etc so nothing intensive....will be looking to building a new pc when more money is available but for now just need something cheap and decent to get me by.
    thanks
    Try cleaning your machine out? All the fans, fins, filters etc.
  • inni786 1 Dec 2012 21:55:35 133 posts
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    Thanks for the reply Bremenacht - yes that is something I've already done but am still having graphical problems.
    During gameplay I keep getting crashes/game freezing and the screen flickering from the game back to desktop and see a message saying the nvidia driver has recovered from a crash - I have just done a clean install of the latest drivers but feel its time to let these cards go.
    I'm thinking of getting one of the AMD cards - maybe a 6670?
  • Bremenacht 1 Dec 2012 22:21:22 18,242 posts
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    Umm. I don't know. I think that's fairly low-spec, but I'm not really your guy for PC/GPU stuff at the moment. Give it 24 hours and you'll have a couple of decent suggestions, I'm sure.
  • RobTheBuilder 1 Dec 2012 22:28:52 6,521 posts
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    @inni786 for that price Toms hardware recommend the 6670. I'm using the 5670 and it's good for a basic one. Not sure how it compares to the 8800's but should run everything even if not at top whack.

    Either that or paying a little more for a 7750.

    Edited by RobTheBuilder at 22:29:53 01-12-2012
  • Deleted user 2 December 2012 13:12:42
    why are the cases on those PCs so rancid

    I just want a budget gaming PC w.out ridiculously ugly case, a plain black box is fine gawd
  • FutileResistor 2 Dec 2012 22:03:18 1,230 posts
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    kadooosh wrote:
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMDGB-FX-6200-Six-Core-Gaming-Pc-Computer-500Gb-4Gb-ATI-HD-7850-2GB-Mars-R-/120963447834?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item1c29fbbc1a

    On a budget.... is this a waste of money??
    Hope I'm not too late, not really been paying attention to this thread fro a few days.

    That's a decent price, there's nothing wrong with that system as such. Performance overall is fairly similar to an i3-22XX based system. The FX would be slightly better at multi-threaded apps requiring more than 2 cores. The i3 would be slightly better at games.

    i3-3220 Gaming Benchmarks

    I really can't recommend going down the AMD route over Intel. Intel have just been making clearly better CPUs for years now.

    The major problem with AMD at the moment is that their current architecture isn't really even much of an advance over their last gen CPUs.

    AMD have only been able to match intel price performance at the expense of power and heat. At load the FX6200 is drawing 122 watts more than the i3-3220.

    AMD is now price-competitive but not if you're the one paying the electricity bill.

    Assuming you don't want to build it yourself and for a similar price, I would get one of these i3-32xx systems and pair it with a Radeon 7850.

    The Sapphire 2GB 7850 OC on this page is 150 and comes with free Farcry 2, Hitman Absolution and Sleeping Dogs.

    So taking the cheapest i3-32XX system from the earlier link at 223.33 and pairing it that Radeon 7850 at 150, gives you a better system with 40 worth of excellent games thrown in for 373.33 or about 7 more than the one in your link.

    Edited by FutileResistor at 22:07:19 02-12-2012
  • RobTheBuilder 3 Dec 2012 10:34:28 6,521 posts
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    Bumped for @imamazed

    The above post is worth a read!
  • imamazed 3 Dec 2012 10:37:09 5,595 posts
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    Cheers rob.

    To anyone - I'm looking to spend 400ish on a gaming PC. Ideally I don't want to have build it myself; but does it work out a lot cheaper if you do? On that note, is it quite simple to build a new PC? I have no knowledge on the subject whatsoever and wouldn't want to muck it up.
  • RobTheBuilder 3 Dec 2012 10:43:43 6,521 posts
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    @imamazed my current PC cost just over 400 and it would have cost about 500/600 to buy ready built.

    It's relatively simple. They always have instructions to show you where to go.

    Screw power supply unit to case
    Screw motherboard to case
    Add processor
    Clip fan on to processor
    Screw in hard drive to case
    Screw in DVD drive to case
    Add ram
    Add graphics card
    Connect cables (most can only go to one place)

    As long as you are careful and earthed (bare foot) you should be fine.

    Edited by RobTheBuilder at 10:44:31 03-12-2012
  • imamazed 3 Dec 2012 10:53:26 5,595 posts
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    I suppose I could give it a go, with thorough instructions. I have no idea which components to buy/where to get them at best value for money?
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