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  • richardiox 3 Sep 2012 23:59:47 5,739 posts
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    For the types of games you listed no point in going balls out. A 6870 would do the trick, which is the card I have. If you're gaming at 1080, coupled with an i5 it will be able to max out most titles.

    You could always get a 7850/70 but it's all much of a muchness at the end of the day. Save money with a 500W PSU and a 6870 and put the savings towards buying some actual games to play on your new machine.

    Edited by richardiox at 00:01:23 04-09-2012
  • superdelphinus 4 Sep 2012 00:10:54 8,127 posts
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    heh, good point. i haven't actually got windows either (have only used macs for the last 10 years or so), but was hoping to just put the win 8 preview on there for now and worry about it when I have to

    I think I have decided that spending an extra 130 on a card that may give me a 10-15 almost imperceptible frames per second in games I won't play is slightly stupid
  • FutileResistor 4 Sep 2012 00:31:29 1,239 posts
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    superdelphinus wrote:
    great - thank you so much. i'm so close to buying this stuff but i'm still getting confused by graphics stuff. I've changed my mind on the 2gb hdd and just getting a 1tb toshiba one which is 20 odd quid cheaper and probably more than enough for now. also the monitor is a 'LG IPS224V 22 inch LED Backlit IPS Monitor' which is only 106 and has good reviews.

    where I am with graphics cards is that I don't mind buying a gtx 670 but I want it actually to be worth the extra cost over a 7950 or even a 7850/70, given that I could then also buy the z77 mobo rather than the z77x one (I will probably get two cards in the future, hence the psu) and save another 20. I simply can't find any compelling evidence one way or the other.

    I don't really play blockbuster type games - it will probably just be limited to things like pcars, rfactor 2, civ type games, armA 2/3 the sims etc (the wife and kid ;)). IF I can run those sorts of games with pretty much max settings and 60fps I will be happy.

    HELP ME PLEASE!!
    You always need more storage and 20 for an extra gigabyte is a good deal.

    Are you going for a triple monitor setup for Pcars, Rfactor? If not even a 7850 will be more than fine for a single screen at 1920x1080.

    If you decide on the three screens in say a year's time ask on the Pcars forums for advice.

    7950 v 670 They're fairly even at stock clocks.

    Pcars obviously fairly niche and difficult to find but here's a benchmark with the 7950.

    Pcars Benchmark at 1920x1080

    Edited by FutileResistor at 00:37:25 04-09-2012
  • superdelphinus 4 Sep 2012 00:54:35 8,127 posts
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    no, highly unlikely i'll be allowed to have 3 screens
  • Armoured_Bear 4 Sep 2012 21:58:56 11,936 posts
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    FutileResistor wrote:
    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    I'm building a gaming HTPC to be as quiet as possible.
    What's the best of the low power quad-core CPUs for gaming?
    Intel Core i5 3470?
    Yes. I'm assuming you're not going to be overclocking an HTPC obviously.
    The 3570S uses a bit less power and is slightly more expensive.
    Can't see which will be better though.

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  • superdelphinus 4 Sep 2012 22:03:55 8,127 posts
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    Forgot to say thanks for the advice. I've ordered all the bits now, now I've got ruining them all whilst trying to put them in incorrectly to look forward to now!
  • Bremenacht 4 Sep 2012 23:04:39 19,666 posts
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    Anyone built their own NAS box? We've grown quite dependent on our little WD NAS box, but it's single disk and it's about time we moved to something a lot more fault tolerant. It's been getting temperamental of late.

    Be interested in any experiences offered, or useful guides to read. When I last considered doing this, I'd planned on making it a HTPC/NAS cross, but I'll keep it simple with just a NAS for this. I'd also read about a neat little linux NAS build, which I didn't bookmark and cannot remember. :(

    I'd planned on mirroring a couple of fast 1TB drives, or maybe something a bit more complex, depending on the MB. No budget set as yet.
  • Deleted user 4 September 2012 23:34:10
    Thought about it many times, but if you're going DIY you may as well load up your new "budget pc" with drives and setup some decent power management. This is what I do with my HTPC, it mostly sleeps unless it's asked to wake by iTunes/XBMC/Plex/FTP/SSH.
  • Leolian 7 Sep 2012 10:22:29 1,095 posts
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    Anyone runing 5850s in crossfire? I have one currently and am thinking of picking another up on ebay (going for about 70-80). TBH the tinkering is probably the biggest draw for me as frame rates are fine in current games, and I don't insist on ultra detail and anti aliasing. An alternative would be to pick up a geforce 580 and sell my current 5850. Overall cost would probably be an extra 30 over the crossfire setup.
  • Deleted user 7 September 2012 10:27:11
    Sell one, buy a better single card.
  • Leolian 7 Sep 2012 10:28:31 1,095 posts
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    Yeah. Kinda what I thought. I'll hold off a bit and get a 670 I think.
  • FutileResistor 7 Sep 2012 19:37:56 1,239 posts
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    Leolian wrote:
    Anyone runing 5850s in crossfire? I have one currently and am thinking of picking another up on ebay (going for about 70-80). TBH the tinkering is probably the biggest draw for me as frame rates are fine in current games, and I don't insist on ultra detail and anti aliasing. An alternative would be to pick up a geforce 580 and sell my current 5850. Overall cost would probably be an extra 30 over the crossfire setup.
    I'm with Crispy on this. One card is just less hassle, fewer driver and game compatability issues. Also less heat and more power efficient. Don't let me stop you though if you've run sli or cross fire with no issues. It's a good way of getting performance on a budget.

    A GTX 580 is about 280 new, the same price as a GTX 670 which beats it across the board and uses a lot less power while doing so.

    580 v 670

    If you're buying new, it makes more sense to get the GTx 670.
  • Leolian 8 Sep 2012 18:18:22 1,095 posts
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    Thanks Guys. I'll wait 6 months or so and maybe pick up a 670 when they drop in price. The 5850 is fine for now :)
    SSD and a hell of an upgrade, the new ivybridge i5 didn't hurt either.
  • Deleted user 8 September 2012 19:12:31
    FutileResistor wrote:
    CaptainQuint wrote:
    Recently paid 405.00 for a brand new pre-built system which I'm currently enjoying Battlefield 3 on Ultra settings (shadows set to High), highest post-processing anti-aliasing, at 1680x1050 averaging 45-59fps. Not bad at all for budget gaming system.
    Don't keep us in suspense. where did you get it from?

    Since most of the people giving advice are self-builders we really haven't got much experience when it comes to recoommending pre-built, especially since Easy-PC went out of business.
    Really sorry to keep you guys waiting, I'd actually completely forgotten I'd posted about it.

    It was a HotUKDeals link, rated 631 degrees so I took a punt and ordered one.

    AMD Bulldozer 3.3Ghz
    16GB Kingston ram (overkill, I know)
    ATI Radeon 6850 1GB
    500 Watt CoreXStream PSU
    1TB Sata III Hardrive

    It was a very controversial listing due to many of the forumites there claiming it was impossible for the seller to make a profit on it, but there you go. I received mine, it's great and I couldn't be happier.

    Edit: found the link: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/gaming-computer-amd-bulldozer-3-3ghz-fx6100-16gb-ram-ati-7750-1tb-wifi-pc-computer-1284289#comments *

    * I asked for a graphics card upgrade, which he charged me an extra 30 for.


    Unfortunately the listing has expired now, but I would DEFINTELY recommend the seller to anyone looking for a decent little system at a bargain price. His communication alone was very good in my experience.

    Edited by CaptainQuint at 19:18:30 08-09-2012
  • superdelphinus 9 Sep 2012 00:46:24 8,127 posts
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    It's so frustrating when things are delivered at different times. I've got 90% of a pc sitting on my dining room table right now, but no box to put it all in (and no ssd yet)! That lg monitor is very nice though, lovely image and actually I'm glad I didn't go any bigger - even at that size I had to sit back a bit further than I would have done normally
  • urban 9 Sep 2012 14:19:40 11,070 posts
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    Just bought myself a EVGA 480 GTX refurbished for 119 from scan.co.uk.

    Figured it was about time I upgraded from my 5770. Seems fair to me.
  • MikeP 10 Sep 2012 18:23:05 2,080 posts
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    Alright chaps. I have a somewhat geriatric box Q6600 running at 2.4, 4 gig of DDR2 and a 1 gig 6850. This is coupled with a 1680x1050 monitor

    Now, I'm thinking of Planetside 2, and what that'll need. New Mobo and CPU, and RAM? Anyone in the beta who can tell if I'll be able to play with that sort of get up?

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  • superdelphinus 14 Sep 2012 00:31:17 8,127 posts
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    I've put all my bits together now and it seems to be working fine. Performance is phenomenal. Any tests I should be running? I've been monitoring the CPU temps under different loads and durations - seems to hover around 29-32 when idle and then pushing up to 50 or so when playing a game (which has essentially been the f1 demo and the sims 3 so far!). Any programmes to check what the gpu is doing?

    Windows 8 is bonkers but i quite like it, actually makes os x lion seem quite old fashioned. Boots from cold to desktop in about 20 seconds with the ssd
  • Dirtbox 14 Sep 2012 01:15:11 79,216 posts
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    @MikeP I'd get another 4gb of ram, but otherwise you should be okay. The CPU will be the bottleneck if there's a problem.

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  • MikeP 14 Sep 2012 11:10:54 2,080 posts
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    @Dirtbox thanks for the advice.

    That's probably the last upgrade I'll do to this box, once it starts to wheeze again I think that'll be it.

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  • Iain815 15 Sep 2012 00:51:22 441 posts
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    Ok, bit of a dilemma here. I'm planning to order a new:

    Motherboard (Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H)
    RAM (Corsair Memory Vengeance Red 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz)
    CPU (Intel Core i5 3570K)
    and 650w PSU.
    HDD I have at the moment is fine.
    Case

    I wasn't planning on getting a new GPU, but I thinking if I'm spending the cash and if the performance increase is good it might be worth while. HD 6870, would there be enough of a difference to justify the cost? 120 would be about the most I could splash if I were to.

    Edited by Iain815 at 01:02:17 15-09-2012
  • richardiox 15 Sep 2012 01:36:31 5,739 posts
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    @Iain815

    The 6870 is considerably better than the gts450. I'd say definately worth the 100 (for a reference 6870) especially if you've just got all that new kit. Or do as the above poster suggest and splash out 140 on something from the 7XXX series. Sell your 450 to recoup the difference. Sleeping Dogs would be a great way to flex your new CPU/GPU

    With your new PC that gts450 would be a real bottleneck especially at higher resolutions. The 450 was never a particularly great card.

    DEFINATELY upgrade!
  • Iain815 15 Sep 2012 13:19:24 441 posts
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    Cheers for the replies chaps. Might as well go for the MSI 7850 if it's only a few bob more. This be the card you recommend?

    .
  • superdelphinus 20 Sep 2012 22:59:11 8,127 posts
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    I have a 7850 OC edition and it's fab. It will run pretty much everything in max at 60fps on my computer. Only one I've found that won't is pCARS but that has some crazily intensive AA so I just knocked that down a touch.

    Funnily enough I came here to ask about overclocking it. I have upped the core speed to 1050mhz and it's fine and dandy. Any attempt to increase the memory clock is rendering it terribly unstable. I don't actually need to do it at the moment but I'd still like to know what I'm doing wrong, according to mr Internet I should be able to get it a fair bit higher relatively easier. I've tried msi afterburner and amd catalyst and no difference in the end result. Windows 8 if that makes any difference
  • superdelphinus 20 Sep 2012 23:38:38 8,127 posts
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    Yeah I've seen that thread. Doesn't really answer my question though. When i try to get the memory clock up that fast it just goes mental. Am I supposed to do it gradually?
  • superdelphinus 20 Sep 2012 23:40:09 8,127 posts
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    Iain815 wrote:
    Ok, bit of a dilemma here. I'm planning to order a new:

    Motherboard (Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H)
    RAM (Corsair Memory Vengeance Red 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz)
    CPU (Intel Core i5 3570K)
    and 650w PSU.
    HDD I have at the moment is fine.
    Case

    I wasn't planning on getting a new GPU, but I thinking if I'm spending the cash and if the performance increase is good it might be worth while. HD 6870, would there be enough of a difference to justify the cost? 120 would be about the most I could splash if I were to.
    Just read your post - that's pretty much exactly what I have, except I got a sapphire 7850 OC. Same CPU, motherboard and psu tho
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